RE: MacOS
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:18 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: MacOS In regards to dev tools. I basically use a my favorite text editor, usual shell scripting, Jarkata Ant and will occasionally wonder into C and Objective-C and for that I used the Apple Dev Tools which are a free download. Be as it may, my understanding is that there a quite a few IDEs that MacOSX friendly i.e., JBuilder, Forte, NetBeans, CodeWarrior, TogetherJ and some others. Here's a link that I really like NetBeans 3.4 and I use it at work on the Win2k box (yes, it has the memory). But on my Mac it is very sluggish, as most Pure Java apps are. I only have a G3 w/384 MB RAM. I assume it performs better on the G4? (If NetBeans ran as fast on MacOSX as it does on Windows I'd be really happy.) Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MacOS
-Original Message- From: peter lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: MacOS actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build. SWT has been ported to Aqua, or do you mean using an Xserver? Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MacOS
I think netbeans is too damn slow and memory hungry (in any platform) I couldn't find eclipse for mac in eclipse.org, it's avaliable only in sources distro? On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:43, Price, Erik wrote: -Original Message- From: peter lin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:49 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: MacOS actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build. SWT has been ported to Aqua, or do you mean using an Xserver? Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Felipe Schnack Analista de Sistemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (51)91287530 Linux Counter #281893 Faculdade Ritter dos Reis www.ritterdosreis.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone/Fax.: (51)32303328 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
I'm running tomcat (4.1.12) on Mac OS X. Not in production (yet), but everything seems to work as expected ... On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 12:33 PM, Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... -- Felipe Schnack Analista de Sistemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (51)91287530 Linux Counter #281893 Faculdade Ritter dos Reis www.ritterdosreis.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone/Fax.: (51)32303328 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote: Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/, or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives). I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not). Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower versions as well) to run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x and currently on 4.1.12, I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation. However, If your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about UI tricks etc. But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which describes these: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/ As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come across so far perform as well as they would in any other Unix i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, Tomcat, Jetty, Apache -but this is just a gut feel assessment, I have no formal metrics. On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Martin Redington wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote: Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/, or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives). I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not). Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower versions as well) to run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MacOS
You make me want to go out and pickup a titanium iBook, course, I've been drooling over those for a while A note on OSX Server and Open Source, there are few projects that ship with it by default. OpenEJB and OpenORB are used in WebObjects for EJB and CORBA support, so that explains them. I'm pretty sure Tomcat is there for the same reason, though I've never heard that first-hand from the WebObjects team -- never thought of asking. One thing of note is that in Linux it's fairly easy to upgrade the packages that ship with the platform by default. I'm not so sure it's as trivial in OSX Server. I'm interested to see where that goes -David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:23 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: MacOS I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x and currently on 4.1.12, I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation. However, If your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about UI tricks etc. But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which describes these: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/ As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come across so far perform as well as they would in any other Unix i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, Tomcat, Jetty, Apache -but this is just a gut feel assessment, I have no formal metrics. On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Martin Redington wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote: Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/, or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives). I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not). Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower versions as well) to run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:tomcat-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux. Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-) On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x and currently on 4.1.12, I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation. However, If your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about UI tricks etc. But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which describes these: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/ As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come across so far perform as well as they would in any other Unix i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, Tomcat, Jetty, Apache -but this is just a gut feel assessment, I have no formal metrics. On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Martin Redington wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote: Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/, or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives). I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not). Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower versions as well) to run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Felipe Schnack Analista de Sistemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (51)91287530 Linux Counter #281893 Faculdade Ritter dos Reis www.ritterdosreis.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone/Fax.: (51)32303328 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build. I'm seriously thinking about switching too to get away from windows and my normal bi-annual reinstall of the whole OS. the eclipse IDE does work very nicely. peter Felipe Schnack wrote: Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux. Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
nice!!! But I already got rid of windows, with RH linux On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 18:49, peter lin wrote: actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build. I'm seriously thinking about switching too to get away from windows and my normal bi-annual reinstall of the whole OS. the eclipse IDE does work very nicely. peter Felipe Schnack wrote: Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux. Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Felipe Schnack Analista de Sistemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (51)91287530 Linux Counter #281893 Faculdade Ritter dos Reis www.ritterdosreis.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone/Fax.: (51)32303328 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS
heh, funny... No I do not work for Apple - there're popular sayings that sort of goes like people that work at the salami factory don't eat it salami, if you really like her, don't marry her etc. In any case, I must admit at being very psyched about having having a Mac UI over Unix. The stars have aligned themselves! In regards to dev tools. I basically use a my favorite text editor, usual shell scripting, Jarkata Ant and will occasionally wonder into C and Objective-C and for that I used the Apple Dev Tools which are a free download. Be as it may, my understanding is that there a quite a few IDEs that MacOSX friendly i.e., JBuilder, Forte, NetBeans, CodeWarrior, TogetherJ and some others. Here's a link that showcases a handful of them and some other cool tools -beware that not all are top of the line: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/ On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 02:40 PM, Felipe Schnack wrote: Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux. Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-) On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x and currently on 4.1.12, I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation. However, If your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about UI tricks etc. But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which describes these: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/ As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come across so far perform as well as they would in any other Unix i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, Tomcat, Jetty, Apache -but this is just a gut feel assessment, I have no formal metrics. On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37 AM, Martin Redington wrote: On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote: Felipe Schnack wrote: Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for serving jsp or I should stick with PCs... I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine! Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some conflicts with Tomcat. That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/, or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives). I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not). Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower versions as well) to run. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Felipe Schnack Analista de Sistemas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cel.: (51)91287530 Linux Counter #281893 Faculdade Ritter dos Reis www.ritterdosreis.br [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fone/Fax.: (51)32303328 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MacOS X - Changing JAVA_OPTS for 8859_1 encoding
I think the correct syntax would be: JAVA_OPTS=-Dfile.encoding=8859_1 The quotes aren't really important, but the -D is. If that was just a typo in your message, then I'm not really sure what the problem is. But if that was actually what's in your script, it won't have the effect of setting a system property in Java unless the -D is there. (I really don't know anything about the file.encoding property in particular, or it's behavior, so I can't help you there.) On 3/17/02 4:03 AM, Steven Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is off topic but I know there are OSX, Tomcat users here who may be able to shed some light on my problem. The problem has to do with ASCII characters 128 for locale character support such as tilde, circumflex, etc. while running Tomcat (4.0.3) on MacOS 10.1.3 w/ java version 1.3.1 I have set my JAVA_OPTS env variable to file.encoding=8859_1 but am still having problems with ResultSet values which continue to be MacRoman decoding of 8859_1 chars. I am accessing a MSSQL running on Windows 2000 via a JDirect Type 4 driver. Some of the data has Portuguese and Spanish characters and when I output a ResultSet returned by Tomcat running on the Windows machine everything looks correct. When I output the same ResultSet from Tomcat running on the Macintosh accessing the same database on the Windows machine, I get the characters MacRoman encoded whether or not I have run the startup.sh from a terminal with JAVA_OPTS=file.encoding=8859_1. Actually there is NO difference which seems to indicate that either file.properties is not the correct system env variable or I am not using JAVA_OPTS correctly? So I'm fishing for any ideas of how to fix this problem. If you have any suggestions please mail me off list as well as I am on the digest. Thanks for the help. Steven //* * VTV Learning Corporation *Los Angeles - Boston - Lisbon * (http://www.vtvLearning.com/) */ -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- +---+ | Dave Makower[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.davemak.com/ | +---+ -- To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Troubles with the list: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]