RE: MacOS

2002-11-22 Thread Price, Erik


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 Subject: Re: MacOS
 
 
 In regards to dev tools. I basically use a my favorite text editor,  
 usual shell scripting, Jarkata Ant and will occasionally 
 wonder into C 
 and Objective-C and for that I used the Apple Dev Tools which are a 
 free download. Be as it may, my understanding is that there a quite a 
 few IDEs that MacOSX friendly i.e., JBuilder, Forte, NetBeans, 
 CodeWarrior, TogetherJ and some others. Here's a link that 


I really like NetBeans 3.4 and I use it at work on the Win2k box (yes, it has the 
memory).  But on my Mac it is very sluggish, as most Pure Java apps are.  I only have 
a G3 w/384 MB RAM.  I assume it performs better on the G4?  (If NetBeans ran as fast 
on MacOSX as it does on Windows I'd be really happy.)


Erik

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RE: MacOS

2002-11-22 Thread Price, Erik


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 Subject: Re: MacOS
 
 
 
 actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build.

SWT has been ported to Aqua, or do you mean using an Xserver?


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RE: MacOS

2002-11-22 Thread Felipe Schnack
  I think netbeans is too damn slow and memory hungry (in any platform)
  I couldn't find eclipse for mac in eclipse.org, it's avaliable only in
sources distro?

On Fri, 2002-11-22 at 13:43, Price, Erik wrote:
 
 
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  actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build.
 
 SWT has been ported to Aqua, or do you mean using an Xserver?
 
 
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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Redington

I'm running tomcat (4.1.12) on Mac OS X. Not in production (yet), but 
everything seems to work as expected ...


On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 12:33 PM, Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java 
in
general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for
serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...

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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Jacobson
Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java in
general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for
serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...



I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac OS 
10.2 and it all runs just fine!

Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac OS 
X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some 
conflicts with Tomcat.

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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Redington

On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote:


Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with java 
in
general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for
serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...

I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac 
OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine!

Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac 
OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some 
conflicts with Tomcat.

That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar 
in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/,
or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives).

I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, 
but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not).

Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to 
get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower 
versions as well) to run.


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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread bido
I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not 
aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of 
you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for 
serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red 
carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools 
to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing 
enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK 
is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x 
and currently on 4.1.12,

I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a 
gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation.  However, If 
your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about 
UI tricks etc.  But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some 
differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an 
excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which 
describes these:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/

As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come 
across so far
perform as well as they would in any other Unix  i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, 
Tomcat, Jetty,  Apache -but this is just a gut feel
assessment, I have no formal metrics.


On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37  AM, Martin Redington wrote:


On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote:


Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with 
java in
general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for
serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...

I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac 
OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine!

Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac 
OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some 
conflicts with Tomcat.

That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar 
in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/,
or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives).

I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, 
but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not).

Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to 
get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower 
versions as well) to run.


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RE: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread David Blevins
You make me want to go out and pickup a titanium iBook, course, I've
been drooling over those for a while

A note on OSX Server and Open Source, there are few projects that ship
with it by default.  OpenEJB and OpenORB are used in WebObjects for EJB
and CORBA support, so that explains them.  I'm pretty sure Tomcat is
there for the same reason, though I've never heard that first-hand from
the WebObjects team -- never thought of asking.

One thing of note is that in Linux it's fairly easy to upgrade the
packages that ship with the platform by default. I'm not so sure it's as
trivial in OSX Server.  I'm interested to see where that goes

-David

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 Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:23 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: MacOS
 
 
 I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX 
 (Nope I'm not 
 aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of 
 you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for 
 serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red 
 carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class 
 browser, tools 
 to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing 
 enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK 
 is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used 
 Tomcat 3.x 
 and currently on 4.1.12,
 
 I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a 
 gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation.  However, If 
 your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about 
 UI tricks etc.  But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some 
 differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an 
 excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which 
 describes these:
 
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/
 
 As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come 
 across so far
 perform as well as they would in any other Unix  i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, 
 Tomcat, Jetty,  Apache -but this is just a gut feel
 assessment, I have no formal metrics.
 
 
 On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37  AM, Martin Redington wrote:
 
 
  On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote:
 
  Felipe Schnack wrote:
Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with
  java in
  general? I would like to know if these machines are good 
 options for
  serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...
 
  I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + 
 MySQL on Mac
  OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine!
 
  Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding 
 probs with Mac
  OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and 
 generates some 
  conflicts with Tomcat.
 
  That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a 
 catalina.jar
  in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in 
 /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/,
  or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives).
 
  I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default 
 tomcat install,
  but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not).
 
  Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I 
 gzipp'ed it) to
  get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower 
  versions as well) to run.
 
 
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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread Felipe Schnack
  Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and
what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's
Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux.
  Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-)

On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm not 
 aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of 
 you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for 
 serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red 
 carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools 
 to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing 
 enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK 
 is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 3.x 
 and currently on 4.1.12,
 
 I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a 
 gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation.  However, If 
 your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about 
 UI tricks etc.  But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some 
 differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an 
 excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which 
 describes these:
 
 http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/
 
 As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come 
 across so far
 perform as well as they would in any other Unix  i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB, 
 Tomcat, Jetty,  Apache -but this is just a gut feel
 assessment, I have no formal metrics.
 
 
 On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37  AM, Martin Redington wrote:
 
 
  On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote:
 
  Felipe Schnack wrote:
Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with 
  java in
  general? I would like to know if these machines are good options for
  serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...
 
  I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac 
  OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine!
 
  Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with Mac 
  OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates some 
  conflicts with Tomcat.
 
  That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar 
  in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/,
  or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives).
 
  I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install, 
  but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not).
 
  Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to 
  get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower 
  versions as well) to run.
 
 
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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread peter lin

actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build.  I'm seriously
thinking about switching too to get away from windows and my normal
bi-annual reinstall of the whole OS.

the eclipse IDE does work very nicely.

peter

Felipe Schnack wrote:
 
   Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and
 what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's
 Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux.
   Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-)


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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread Felipe Schnack
  nice!!!
  But I already got rid of windows, with RH linux
On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 18:49, peter lin wrote:
 
 actually eclipse support Mac in the latest build.  I'm seriously
 thinking about switching too to get away from windows and my normal
 bi-annual reinstall of the whole OS.
 
 the eclipse IDE does work very nicely.
 
 peter
 
 Felipe Schnack wrote:
  
Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and
  what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's
  Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux.
Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-)
 
 
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Re: MacOS

2002-11-21 Thread bido
heh, funny... No I do not work for Apple - there're popular sayings 
that sort of goes like people that work at the salami factory don't 
eat it salami, if you really like her, don't marry her etc. In any 
case, I must admit at being very psyched about having having a  Mac UI 
over Unix. The stars have aligned themselves!

In regards to dev tools. I basically use a my favorite text editor,  
usual shell scripting, Jarkata Ant and will occasionally wonder into C 
and Objective-C and for that I used the Apple Dev Tools which are a 
free download. Be as it may, my understanding is that there a quite a 
few IDEs that MacOSX friendly i.e., JBuilder, Forte, NetBeans, 
CodeWarrior, TogetherJ and some others. Here's a link that showcases a 
handful of them and some other cool tools -beware that not all are top 
of the line:

http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/development_tools/



On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 02:40  PM, Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Seems nice! Probably I'll be using a MacOS server very soon. But and
what about development tools? Do you use any? I'm now using IBM's
Eclipse Project under RedHat Linux.
  Man, you work at Machintosh, don't you? :-)

On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 15:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I dropped my PC for development work once I got on MacOSX (Nope I'm 
not
aspiring to be in an Apple add) but it's worth exploring for those of
you who are thinking about it. MacOSX is an excellent option for
serving JSP and great Java platform in general. It gives Java a red
carpet treatment for example it provides a decent class browser, tools
to turn your Java apps into double-clickable apps, some Swing
enhancements provide for the Aqua look and feel etc. The shipping JDK
is 1.3.1 but 1.4.x is at it's final beta stages. I have used Tomcat 
3.x
and currently on 4.1.12,

I personally prefer it to any version of Windows since it adds a
gazillion cool things on top of its Unix implementation.  However, If
your are the proud vi type of developer then you may not care about
UI tricks etc.  But the core Unix is is there as expected. Some
differences exist but nothing too dramatic. If interested, there's an
excellent book out there by O'Reilly, MacOSX for Unix Geeks which
describes these:

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mosxgeeks/

As far as J2EE is concerned, all the Opensource J2EE apps that I come
across so far
perform as well as they would in any other Unix  i.e. JBoss, OpenEJB,
Tomcat, Jetty,  Apache -but this is just a gut feel
assessment, I have no formal metrics.


On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 09:37  AM, Martin Redington wrote:


On Thursday, November 21, 2002, at 01:31 PM, Martin Jacobson wrote:


Felipe Schnack wrote:

  Anyone have experience with Tomcat on MacOS X servers? Or with
java in
general? I would like to know if these machines are good options 
for
serving jsp or I should stick with PCs...

I'm running Apache + mod_jk + Tomcat 4.1.12 + OpenSSL + MySQL on Mac
OS 10.2 and it all runs just fine!

Check the archives - someone posted recently regarding probs with 
Mac
OS X *Server* - IIRC, WebObjects is pre-installed, and generates 
some
conflicts with Tomcat.

That was me. If you're running on OS X Server, there's a catalina.jar
in /Library/Java/Extensions, or maybe in /Library/Java/Home/lib/ext/,
or at least somewhere in the system classpath (see the archives).

I'm not sure what this is used by ... not the default tomcat install,
but *maybe* by WebObjects (although quite possibly not).

Anyway, you will need to disable this file somehow (I gzipp'ed it) to
get a custom install of tomcat ( 4.0.6, but probably some lower
versions as well) to run.


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Re: MacOS X - Changing JAVA_OPTS for 8859_1 encoding

2002-03-18 Thread Dave Makower

I think the correct syntax would be:

JAVA_OPTS=-Dfile.encoding=8859_1

The quotes aren't really important, but the -D is.  If that was just a typo
in your message, then I'm not really sure what the problem is.  But if that
was actually what's in your script, it won't have the effect of setting a
system property in Java unless the -D is there.

(I really don't know anything about the file.encoding property in
particular, or it's behavior, so I can't help you there.)

On 3/17/02 4:03 AM, Steven Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry if this is off topic but I know there are OSX, Tomcat users here who
 may be able to shed some light on my problem.
 
 The problem has to do with ASCII characters 128 for locale character
 support such as tilde, circumflex, etc. while running Tomcat (4.0.3) on
 MacOS 10.1.3 w/ java version 1.3.1
 
 I have set my JAVA_OPTS env variable to file.encoding=8859_1 but am still
 having problems with ResultSet values which continue to be  MacRoman
 decoding of 8859_1 chars.
 
 I am accessing a MSSQL running on Windows 2000 via a JDirect Type 4 driver.
 Some of the data has Portuguese and Spanish characters and when I output a
 ResultSet returned by Tomcat running on the Windows machine everything looks
 correct.  When I output the same ResultSet from Tomcat running on the
 Macintosh accessing the same database on the Windows machine, I get the
 characters MacRoman encoded whether or not I have run the startup.sh from a
 terminal with JAVA_OPTS=file.encoding=8859_1.  Actually there is NO
 difference which seems to indicate that either file.properties is not the
 correct system env variable or I am not using JAVA_OPTS correctly?
 
 So I'm fishing for any ideas of how to fix this problem.  If you have any
 suggestions please mail me off list as well as I am on the digest.
 
 Thanks for the help.
 
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