RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
s'okay :-) I can understand their motives and good luck to them. I also whole heartedly support open source software, and promote it where I can. Greg > -Original Message- > From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 October 2003 18:03 > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > > > In reading what I wrote I didn't mean it to sound the way it obviously > sounds. So, I offer apologies for the way I wrote that. I > should have > took time to think about the way it was written before sending it. > > Wade > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
In reading what I wrote I didn't mean it to sound the way it obviously sounds. So, I offer apologies for the way I wrote that. I should have took time to think about the way it was written before sending it. Wade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 12:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 October 2003 12:55 > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > > > Actualy Jboss specifically doesn't give out much info for the > purpose of > making money. That is how they are funded. You don't have > to pay squat > for their software, you just have to pay for support and > documentation. > They sell documentation. So, It would probably be good of you...since > you are using Jboss to make money (it sounds like it) to use their > methods and buy the support and documents. > > Wade Wade, We do not use Jboss at present. I was just commenting on one of the reasons why it would be complex to intergrate and document/qualify it into our environment. Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
> From: Wade Chandler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 29 October 2003 12:55 > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > > > Actualy Jboss specifically doesn't give out much info for the > purpose of > making money. That is how they are funded. You don't have > to pay squat > for their software, you just have to pay for support and > documentation. > They sell documentation. So, It would probably be good of you...since > you are using Jboss to make money (it sounds like it) to use their > methods and buy the support and documents. > > Wade Wade, We do not use Jboss at present. I was just commenting on one of the reasons why it would be complex to intergrate and document/qualify it into our environment. Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
Actualy Jboss specifically doesn't give out much info for the purpose of making money. That is how they are funded. You don't have to pay squat for their software, you just have to pay for support and documentation. They sell documentation. So, It would probably be good of you...since you are using Jboss to make money (it sounds like it) to use their methods and buy the support and documents. Wade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 4:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss Remy, I know this is off topic for this list, but: Does it need to be this complex to bundle them both - the instructions seem to have disappeared off the Jbos site - do I have to buy a book to find out? The reason I/we have issues is that we have to do extensive documentation and qualification for regulatory reasons (believe me this is in depth and involves evidence gathering to prove and idiot can install something and prove they have crossed the T's) We hence standardise on a tomcat version and go with that - if we want to use Jboss we sometimes choose a different tomcat version and this causes problems. Having to document a tomcat/jboss bundled build on top of what we do would be a royal PITA. Sorry, off topic rant over. Greg > -Original Message- > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 October 2003 17:24 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Is there any way to run JBoss with Tomcat 5 instead of 4.1.27? I'm > > using JBoss 3.2.2. > > > > > > I would like to switch to 5 because of the hotswap > debugging feature. > > You have to get the source, and build. There will be a TC 5 > SAR in the > output dir for the Tomcat module. > > Using it is not straightforward, though: > - you have to replace the servlet & JSP API JARs in lib > - you should add commons-logging to your system classpath to > avoid problems > > -- > x > Rémy Maucherat > Senior Developer & Consultant > JBoss Group (Europe) SàRL > x > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
Remy, I know this is off topic for this list, but: Does it need to be this complex to bundle them both - the instructions seem to have disappeared off the Jbos site - do I have to buy a book to find out? The reason I/we have issues is that we have to do extensive documentation and qualification for regulatory reasons (believe me this is in depth and involves evidence gathering to prove and idiot can install something and prove they have crossed the T's) We hence standardise on a tomcat version and go with that - if we want to use Jboss we sometimes choose a different tomcat version and this causes problems. Having to document a tomcat/jboss bundled build on top of what we do would be a royal PITA. Sorry, off topic rant over. Greg > -Original Message- > From: Remy Maucherat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 28 October 2003 17:24 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: Re: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Is there any way to run JBoss with Tomcat 5 instead of 4.1.27? > > I'm using JBoss 3.2.2. > > > > > > I would like to switch to 5 because of the hotswap > debugging feature. > > You have to get the source, and build. There will be a TC 5 > SAR in the > output dir for the Tomcat module. > > Using it is not straightforward, though: > - you have to replace the servlet & JSP API JARs in lib > - you should add commons-logging to your system classpath to > avoid problems > > -- > x > Rémy Maucherat > Senior Developer & Consultant > JBoss Group (Europe) SàRL > x > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to run JBoss with Tomcat 5 instead of 4.1.27? I'm using JBoss 3.2.2. I would like to switch to 5 because of the hotswap debugging feature. You have to get the source, and build. There will be a TC 5 SAR in the output dir for the Tomcat module. Using it is not straightforward, though: - you have to replace the servlet & JSP API JARs in lib - you should add commons-logging to your system classpath to avoid problems -- x Rémy Maucherat Senior Developer & Consultant JBoss Group (Europe) SàRL x - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat 5 & JBoss
JBoss and Tomcat run best when bundled together. At this point, they don't have a bundle with Tomcat 5 yet. Furthermore, Tomcat 5 is still in beta. Maybe that's the reason why the jboss folks want to wait until it is in production release. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 04:44 AM Subject: Tomcat 5 & JBoss > Is there any way to run JBoss with Tomcat 5 instead of 4.1.27? > I'm using JBoss 3.2.2. > > > I would like to switch to 5 because of the hotswap debugging feature. > > > Thanks, > > Harm de Laat > Informatiefabriek > The Netherlands > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]