RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michele Neylon :: BlacknightSolutions

Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely client-side, so
I don't think you can.

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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Ni
i guess my question is in a java applet, can I import javabeans and use 
them.  I'm having trouble because I cannot make instances of the beans I 
import.

mike


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Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely client-side, 
so
I don't think you can.

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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Yes.  The bean classes must be in the jar that you name as the applet
codebase.  That jar cannot reside under the /WEB-INF directory of your
webapp.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


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Subject: RE: java applets

i guess my question is in a java applet, can I import javabeans and use
them.  I'm having trouble because I cannot make instances of the beans
I
import.

mike


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Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely
client-side,
so
I don't think you can.

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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Ni
Hmm that really is dissapointing.  I have a whole web app going with my java 
beans in my WEB-INF folder.  I need to grab some information from the beans 
in my java applet so I can display graphical stuff, but there is no way to 
call the beans in my WEB-INF?

mike


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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:40:21 -0400
Howdy,
Yes.  The bean classes must be in the jar that you name as the applet
codebase.  That jar cannot reside under the /WEB-INF directory of your
webapp.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
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From: Michael Ni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:37 PM
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Subject: RE: java applets

i guess my question is in a java applet, can I import javabeans and use
them.  I'm having trouble because I cannot make instances of the beans
I
import.

mike


From: Michele Neylon :: BlacknightSolutions
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Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely
client-side,
so
I don't think you can.

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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,
Clients cannot access content under WEB-INF.  That's a protected
directory per the Servlet Specification.

Yoav Shapira
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From: Michael Ni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: java applets

Hmm that really is dissapointing.  I have a whole web app going with my
java
beans in my WEB-INF folder.  I need to grab some information from the
beans
in my java applet so I can display graphical stuff, but there is no way
to
call the beans in my WEB-INF?

mike


From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:40:21 -0400


Howdy,
Yes.  The bean classes must be in the jar that you name as the applet
codebase.  That jar cannot reside under the /WEB-INF directory of your
webapp.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Ni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:37 PM
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 Subject: RE: java applets
 
 i guess my question is in a java applet, can I import javabeans and
use
 them.  I'm having trouble because I cannot make instances of the
beans
I
 import.
 
 mike
 
 
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 Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely
client-side,
 so
 I don't think you can.
 
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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Ni
what is the server side alternative for java applets?

mike

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Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:54:48 -0400
Howdy,
Clients cannot access content under WEB-INF.  That's a protected
directory per the Servlet Specification.
Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics
-Original Message-
From: Michael Ni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:54 PM
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Subject: RE: java applets

Hmm that really is dissapointing.  I have a whole web app going with my
java
beans in my WEB-INF folder.  I need to grab some information from the
beans
in my java applet so I can display graphical stuff, but there is no way
to
call the beans in my WEB-INF?

mike


From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:40:21 -0400


Howdy,
Yes.  The bean classes must be in the jar that you name as the applet
codebase.  That jar cannot reside under the /WEB-INF directory of your
webapp.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium ChemInformatics


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Ni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 3:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: java applets
 
 i guess my question is in a java applet, can I import javabeans and
use
 them.  I'm having trouble because I cannot make instances of the
beans
I
 import.
 
 mike
 
 
 From: Michele Neylon :: BlacknightSolutions
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 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:03:38 +0200
 
 
 Hmm... My understanding of applets is that they are entirely
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 so
 I don't think you can.
 
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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Howdy,

what is the server side alternative for java applets?

Depends on your requirements: take a step back and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish, and we can help pick the best
design/implementation.

Yoav Shapira



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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Ni
I'm trying to make a multiplayer online game.  Basically the game is a java 
bean on the webserver.  Multiple browsers access the same java bean...much 
like an application scope scenario.  Now I need to display the game with 
information inside these beans.  the beans reside in my 
web-inf/classes...but now to my understanding using the applets I cannot 
import that bean to the applet.

mike
does that make it more clear?  i can explain more =)

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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:58:23 -0400
Howdy,

what is the server side alternative for java applets?

Depends on your requirements: take a step back and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish, and we can help pick the best
design/implementation.
Yoav Shapira



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RE: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Michael Ni
Hmm my solution to my problem is to get all the information i need first and 
pass it to the client where he loads in the applet.  Too bad applets aren't 
server side.


From: Michael Ni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:03:27 -0700
I'm trying to make a multiplayer online game.  Basically the game is a java 
bean on the webserver.  Multiple browsers access the same java bean...much 
like an application scope scenario.  Now I need to display the game with 
information inside these beans.  the beans reside in my 
web-inf/classes...but now to my understanding using the applets I cannot 
import that bean to the applet.

mike
does that make it more clear?  i can explain more =)

From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:58:23 -0400
Howdy,

what is the server side alternative for java applets?

Depends on your requirements: take a step back and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish, and we can help pick the best
design/implementation.
Yoav Shapira



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Re: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Tim Shaw
Generally the server-side for applets is ... servlets - but they have 
very different semantics!

The bean classes may be in your WEB-INF/classes - but the instances are 
inside Tomcat. You would not be able to share dynamically modified data 
using this approach - the Beans would be instantiated on the client-side 
and would know nothing about the instances in Tomcat (unless you coded 
them to - but that's a whole new ball-game).

tim

Michael Ni wrote:
Hmm my solution to my problem is to get all the information i need first 
and pass it to the client where he loads in the applet.  Too bad applets 
aren't server side.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:03:27 -0700
I'm trying to make a multiplayer online game.  Basically the game is a 
java bean on the webserver.  Multiple browsers access the same java 
bean...much like an application scope scenario.  Now I need to display 
the game with information inside these beans.  the beans reside in my 
web-inf/classes...but now to my understanding using the applets I 
cannot import that bean to the applet.

mike
does that make it more clear?  i can explain more =)

From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: java applets
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:58:23 -0400
Howdy,

what is the server side alternative for java applets?

Depends on your requirements: take a step back and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish, and we can help pick the best
design/implementation.
Yoav Shapira



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Re: java applets

2003-06-19 Thread Tim Shaw
I haven't used applets since 1.0, but can't you create the jar and put 
it into /WEB-INF, and then get it from there? I thought that was sort of 
the point?

Puzzled

tim

Shapira, Yoav wrote:
Howdy,
Yes.  The bean classes must be in the jar that you name as the applet
codebase.  That jar cannot reside under the /WEB-INF directory of your
webapp.
Yoav Shapira
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