RE: Maximum url length

[Ignacio J. Ortega]

> El Mar 05 Feb 2002 20:12, escribiste:
> > Hi,
> > It's not a good idea. Try changing GET to POST. In case you 
> don't know -
> > request uris are often cached, logged, etc, so sending any 
> data, especially
> > passwords in them is a suicide or worse.
> >
> 
> I compound the uri internally in my servlet, encode it and do 
> a POST. In fact 
> tomcat shows me the doPost.

But you are not using the body for POST data you are using the URL to
send data, from a HTML perspective it's easy to send post data, simply
send a form with POST method, and you will be sending a request with an
unbounded body of data to be received by the server.., using URLS for
that is guaranteed to be a problem depending in incontrollable
devices ( like proxies or caches or whatever ) it's possible that some
of this uknown devices have a URL limited size, and thus there will be
clients not being able to use your app..


> The question is: I KNOW that I'm using method POST and I know 
> the generated 
> uri is very long. Have you ever try to send so long uris? How 
> to treat them? 
> Can tomcat be configured to handle longer uris?
> 

One alternative solution could be to use Tomcat behind a WebServer .. i
dont know.

But actually the problem is more in the way you are doing things than in
the TC itself..

Saludos ,
Ignacio J. Ortega


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Re: Maximum url length

[karkoma]

El Mar 05 Feb 2002 20:12, escribiste:
> Hi,
> It's not a good idea. Try changing GET to POST. In case you don't know -
> request uris are often cached, logged, etc, so sending any data, especially
> passwords in them is a suicide or worse.
>

I compound the uri internally in my servlet, encode it and do a POST. In fact 
tomcat shows me the doPost.
The question is: I KNOW that I'm using method POST and I know the generated 
uri is very long. Have you ever try to send so long uris? How to treat them? 
Can tomcat be configured to handle longer uris?

Thank you again.
Alberto


> http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.2.1
> "The HTTP protocol does not place any a priori limit on the length of a
> URI. Servers MUST be able to handle the URI of any resource they serve, and
> SHOULD be able to handle URIs of unbounded length if they provide GET-based
> forms that could generate such URIs. A server SHOULD return 414
> (Request-URI Too Long) status if a URI is longer than the server can handle
> (see section 10.4.15).
>
>   Note: Servers ought to be cautious about depending on URI lengths
>   above 255 bytes, because some older client or proxy
>   implementations might not properly support these lengths."
>
> Greetings, deacon Marcus

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Re: Maximum url length

[Chinni . Venkateswara]

One way  I can see is... use hidden html INPUT tags for your params and
use POST instead of GET.

Hope this helps.

gOOd day.
-Chinni




   

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Hi...

I'm trying to send a long uri to Tomcat 3.3 but it complains with error
code
414, (414 Request-URI Too Long). However Apache can handle the same url.

Is there a way to tell Tomcat to admit long uris / urls??
Something like this

 lynx -dump
"localhost:8080/ABC/myservlet?request
=%3C%3Fxml+version%3D%221.0%22+encoding%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0D%0A%3CGPPR%3E%0D%0A%09%3CFUNCION+type%3D%22UPDATE%22%3EcreateUser%3C%2FFUNCION%3E%0D%0A%09%3CAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLIENT%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLIENT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLI_PASSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLI_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_LOGIN%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_LOGIN%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_PASSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%3CPARAMETERS+identype%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22USER%22+param%3D%22Y%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3COBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCLASS%3EUSER%3C%2FCLASS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCONTENTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22TIMEOUTVALIDATE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%220%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22MASTERLOC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22N%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATT!

RIBUTE+name%3D%22PUBLIC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22N%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22NAME%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22UserTest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%2234686966458%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22USERDATA%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22Datos+de+Utest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22IDPROFILE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%221%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22VALIDATED%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22Y%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22DATEINS%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22%!

22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3C%2FCONTENTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3C%2FOBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FPARAMETERS%3E%0D%0A%3C%2FGPPR%3E%0D%0A"


Thanx.
Alberto

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RE: Maximum url length

[Shannon Chen]

Internet Explorer has a maximum uniform resource
locator (URL) length of 2,083 characters, with a
maximum path length of 2,048 characters. This limit
applies to both POST and GET request URLs. 

If you are using the GET method, you are limited to a
maximum of 2,048 characters (minus the number of
characters in the actual path, of course). 

POST, however, is not limited by the size of the URL
for submitting name/value pairs, because they are
transferred in the header and not the URL. 


--- Deacon Marcus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> It's not a good idea. Try changing GET to POST. In
> case you don't know -
> request uris are often cached, logged, etc, so
> sending any data, especially
> passwords in them is a suicide or worse.
> 
>
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.2.1
> "The HTTP protocol does not place any a priori limit
> on the length of a URI.
> Servers MUST be able to handle the URI of any
> resource they serve, and
> SHOULD be able to handle URIs of unbounded length if
> they provide GET-based
> forms that could generate such URIs. A server SHOULD
> return 414 (Request-URI
> Too Long) status if a URI is longer than the server
> can handle (see section
> 10.4.15).
> 
>   Note: Servers ought to be cautious about
> depending on URI lengths
>   above 255 bytes, because some older client or
> proxy
>   implementations might not properly support
> these lengths."
> 
> Greetings, deacon Marcus
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: karkoma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:48 PM
> > To: Tomcat Users List
> > Subject: Maximum url length
> >
> >
> > Hi...
> >
> > I'm trying to send a long uri to Tomcat 3.3 but it
> complains with
> > error code
> > 414, (414 Request-URI Too Long). However Apache
> can handle the same url.
> >
> > Is there a way to tell Tomcat to admit long uris /
> urls??
> > Something like this
> >
> >  lynx -dump
> >
>
"localhost:8080/ABC/myservlet?request=%3C%3Fxml+version%3D%221.0%2
> >
>
2+encoding%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0D%0A%3CGPPR%3E%0D%0A%09%3CFUNCION+
>
type%3D%22UPDATE%22%3EcreateUser%3C%2FFUNCION%3E%0D%0A%09%>
>
3CAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLIENT%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLIENT%3E%0
> >
>
D%0A%09%09%3CCLI_PASSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLI_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CU
>
SER_LOGIN%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_LOGIN%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_PASSWD%3Ecesar%>
>
3C%2FUSER_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%3CPA
> >
>
RAMETERS+identype%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3
> >
>
D%22USER%22+param%3D%22Y%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3COBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09
> >
>
%09%09%09%3CCLASS%3EUSER%3C%2FCLASS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCONTENT
> >
>
S%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22TIMEOUTVALIDATE%22
> >
>
%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%220%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%
> >
>
09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3
> >
>
D%22MASTERLOC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22N%22%2
> >
>
F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATT!
> >
>
RIBUTE+name%3D%22PUBLIC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3
> >
>
D%22N%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%
> >
>
09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22NAME%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%
> >
>
3CSTRING+val%3D%22UserTest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTR
>
IBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%>
>
09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%2234686966458%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%
> >
>
09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+nam
> >
>
e%3D%22USERDATA%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22Da
>
tos+de+Utest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%>
>
09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22IDPROFILE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%0
> >
>
9%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%221%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIB
>
UTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22VALIDATED%22%3E%0D%>
>
0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22Y%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%
> >
>
09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22DA
>
TEINS%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22%!
> >
>
22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%
> >
>
3C%2FCONTENTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3C%2FOBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3C%2FAT
>
TRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FPARAMETERS%3E%0D%0A%3C%2FGPPR%3E%0D%0A"
> >
> > Thanx.
> > Alberto
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RE: Maximum url length

[Deacon Marcus]

Hi,
It's not a good idea. Try changing GET to POST. In case you don't know -
request uris are often cached, logged, etc, so sending any data, especially
passwords in them is a suicide or worse.

http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec3.html#sec3.2.1
"The HTTP protocol does not place any a priori limit on the length of a URI.
Servers MUST be able to handle the URI of any resource they serve, and
SHOULD be able to handle URIs of unbounded length if they provide GET-based
forms that could generate such URIs. A server SHOULD return 414 (Request-URI
Too Long) status if a URI is longer than the server can handle (see section
10.4.15).

  Note: Servers ought to be cautious about depending on URI lengths
  above 255 bytes, because some older client or proxy
  implementations might not properly support these lengths."

Greetings, deacon Marcus

> -Original Message-
> From: karkoma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:48 PM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Maximum url length
>
>
> Hi...
>
> I'm trying to send a long uri to Tomcat 3.3 but it complains with
> error code
> 414, (414 Request-URI Too Long). However Apache can handle the same url.
>
> Is there a way to tell Tomcat to admit long uris / urls??
> Something like this
>
>  lynx -dump
> "localhost:8080/ABC/myservlet?request=%3C%3Fxml+version%3D%221.0%2
> 2+encoding%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0D%0A%3CGPPR%3E%0D%0A%09%3CFUNCION+
type%3D%22UPDATE%22%3EcreateUser%3C%2FFUNCION%3E%0D%0A%09%>
3CAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLIENT%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLIENT%3E%0
> D%0A%09%09%3CCLI_PASSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLI_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CU
SER_LOGIN%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_LOGIN%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_PASSWD%3Ecesar%>
3C%2FUSER_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%3CPA
> RAMETERS+identype%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3
> D%22USER%22+param%3D%22Y%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3COBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09
> %09%09%09%3CCLASS%3EUSER%3C%2FCLASS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCONTENT
> S%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22TIMEOUTVALIDATE%22
> %3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%220%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%
> 09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3
> D%22MASTERLOC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22N%22%2
> F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATT!
> RIBUTE+name%3D%22PUBLIC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3
> D%22N%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%
> 09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22NAME%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%
> 3CSTRING+val%3D%22UserTest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTR
IBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%>
09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%2234686966458%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%
> 09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+nam
> e%3D%22USERDATA%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22Da
tos+de+Utest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%>
09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22IDPROFILE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%0
> 9%09%09%3CINT+val%3D%221%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIB
UTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22VALIDATED%22%3E%0D%>
0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22Y%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%
> 09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22DA
TEINS%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22%!
> 22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%
> 3C%2FCONTENTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3C%2FOBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3C%2FAT
TRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FPARAMETERS%3E%0D%0A%3C%2FGPPR%3E%0D%0A"
>
> Thanx.
> Alberto
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RE: Maximum url length

[Thanh Duong]

Hi
I got this problem too with tomcat 3.3.
Now I am using tomcat 4 and This problem doesnt exist.

Thanh

-Original Message-
From: karkoma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Dienstag, 5. Februar 2002 19:48
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Maximum url length


Hi...

I'm trying to send a long uri to Tomcat 3.3 but it complains with error code
414, (414 Request-URI Too Long). However Apache can handle the same url.

Is there a way to tell Tomcat to admit long uris / urls??
Something like this

 lynx -dump
"localhost:8080/ABC/myservlet?request=%3C%3Fxml+version%3D%221.0%22+encoding
%3D%22UTF-8%22%3F%3E%0D%0A%3CGPPR%3E%0D%0A%09%3CFUNCION+type%3D%22UPDATE%22%
3EcreateUser%3C%2FFUNCION%3E%0D%0A%09%3CAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLI
ENT%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLIENT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CCLI_PASSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FCLI_PASSWD%
3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_LOGIN%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_LOGIN%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CUSER_PA
SSWD%3Ecesar%3C%2FUSER_PASSWD%3E%0D%0A%09%3C%2FAUTENTIFICATION%3E%0D%0A%09%3
CPARAMETERS+identype%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22USE
R%22+param%3D%22Y%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3COBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCLASS
%3EUSER%3C%2FCLASS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3CCONTENTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3
CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22TIMEOUTVALIDATE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+val
%3D%220%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09
%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22MASTERLOC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D
%22N%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C
ATT!
RIBUTE+name%3D%22PUBLIC%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%3D%22N%22%2
F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE
+name%3D%22NAME%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22UserTest%22%
2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CATTRIBUT
E+name%3D%22MSISDN%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22346869664
58%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3CAT
TRIBUTE+name%3D%22USERDATA%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%22D
atos+de+Utest%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09
%09%09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22IDPROFILE%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CINT+v
al%3D%221%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%
09%3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22VALIDATED%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CCHAR+val%
3D%22Y%22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%
3CATTRIBUTE+name%3D%22DATEINS%22%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%09%3CSTRING+val%3D%
22%!
22%2F%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%09%3C%2FCONTE
NTS%3E%0D%0A%09%09%09%3C%2FOBJECT%3E%0D%0A%09%09%3C%2FATTRIBUTE%3E%0D%0A%09%
3C%2FPARAMETERS%3E%0D%0A%3C%2FGPPR%3E%0D%0A"

Thanx.
Alberto

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