Re: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!

2001-03-31 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

 Could somebody PLEASE fix this mailing list so that bouncing messages
 doesn't go back to the poster!
 
 This is VERY ANNOYING!
 

Sure ... if it were possible.

The problem is that neither of the two addresses currently bouncing back
to the list are subscribed to the list, so there is no way to unsubscribe
them.  The bounce messages are coming back from the domains of the bad
addresses, not from TOMCAT-USER.

 -- 
 - Torgeir
 
Craig McClanahan






Re: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!

2001-03-28 Thread Milt Epstein

On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Torgeir Veimo wrote:

 Could somebody PLEASE fix this mailing list so that bouncing
 messages doesn't go back to the poster!
 
 This is VERY ANNOYING!

I second that!  Currently I get two bounces each time I post something
(i.e. there are two addresses that are bad).  I can save them and mail
them to an appropriate person/entity next time I post something.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Software/Systems Development Group
Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!

2001-03-28 Thread Randy Layman


The problem is that neither are directly subscribed to the list -
they are the result of mail forwards (I've already asked Craig about this).
The only way to find the bad addresses would be to send an email to every
address separately and determine which outgoing message produced the
failure.

Randy


 -Original Message-
 From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:52 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!
 
 
 On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 
  Could somebody PLEASE fix this mailing list so that bouncing
  messages doesn't go back to the poster!
  
  This is VERY ANNOYING!
 
 I second that!  Currently I get two bounces each time I post something
 (i.e. there are two addresses that are bad).  I can save them and mail
 them to an appropriate person/entity next time I post something.
 
 Milt Epstein
 Research Programmer
 Software/Systems Development Group
 Computing and Communications Services Office (CCSO)
 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



Re: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!

2001-03-28 Thread Torgeir Veimo

Randy Layman wrote:
 
 The problem is that neither are directly subscribed to the list -
 they are the result of mail forwards (I've already asked Craig about this).
 The only way to find the bad addresses would be to send an email to every
 address separately and determine which outgoing message produced the
 failure.

And it IS possible to do just that without interfering with normal
operation; just add a random character (to a header field which get
replied) for each normal ML message which is different for each
recipient. 

-- 
- Torgeir



Re: PLEASE fix mailing list bounces!

2001-03-28 Thread Kief Morris

Torgeir Veimo typed the following on 06:12 PM 3/28/2001 +0200
 The problem is that neither are directly subscribed to the list -

But shouldn't the reply-to field point to the mailing list address
instead of the original mailer? 

The Sender address is the one which mail servers should use to
decide who to send bounces to, and it should be set to the list
admin who can remove the offending address. Some servers
are misconfigured to send bounces to the From or Reply-to address,
which is wrong.

K