Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-27 Thread Craig R. McClanahan



On Sat, 25 May 2002, tek1 wrote:

 Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 23:45:12 +0900
 From: tek1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

 is it possible for a client to append JSESSIONID=sessionId to the url
 (i.e.
 http://theurl.com/theservlet?JSESSIONID=A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375)
 and still use the POST method, or is the usage of GET mandatory?


Sessions work just fine with both GET and POST -- but they are guaranteed
to fail if used in the manner you described above.  The reason for this is
that session ids are *path* parameters, not *query* parameters.  In
addition, the parameter name is jsessionid instead of JSESSIONID.  Try
something like this instead:

 http://theurl.com/theservlet;jsessionid=A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375

(Note the semicolon rather than the question mark).

See the servlet specification
(http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html) and the relevant RFCs
about URL syntax, to understand the differences.


 thanks.

Craig


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Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-27 Thread tek1

just to confirm, jsessionid can be used regardless of whether or not one is 
using GET or POST?

thanks.


At 10:33 02/05/27 -0700, you wrote:

Sessions work just fine with both GET and POST -- but they are guaranteed
to fail if used in the manner you described above.  The reason for this is
that session ids are *path* parameters, not *query* parameters.  In
addition, the parameter name is jsessionid instead of JSESSIONID.  Try
something like this instead:

  http://theurl.com/theservlet;jsessionid=A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375

(Note the semicolon rather than the question mark).

See the servlet specification
(http://java.sun.com/products/servlet/download.html) and the relevant RFCs
about URL syntax, to understand the differences.


  thanks.

Craig


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Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-26 Thread Phillip Morelock

Cool, after I wrote it I thought that might be what you meant.  Maybe you
should just turn off cookies and _only_ use url rewriting?  That's what I'd
try, but maybe you have a reason not to do that?

fillup


On 5/25/02 8:24 PM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Philip,
 I did try using url re-writing using jsessionid'd  that is why I
 wrote this mail. TOmcat seems to use jsessionid in cookies first  if not
 there only then take jsessionid from url. This is my guess coz that is what
 is happening.
 
 Does anyone have any idea how to force using jsessionid in such situations
 to make user jump between two domains(though they are in reality same
 machine  same tomcat) without his knowlege.
 
 -Jiger
 
 
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 HTTP sessionsbrowsers are configured to associate cookies with domain
 names.  They will not transmit a cookie to a domain other than the
 originating domain (at least they shouldn't).  It has nothing to do with IP
 address, only domain name.  I am not sure I understand your question, but
 if
 I am reading it correctly, the only thing you can do is some manual
 persistence scheme, such as using a database and url rewriting or some
 similar scheme.
 
 does this help?
 
 fillup
 
 
 On 5/25/02 3:43 AM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi,
   I have checked the archives already but did not come across similar
 problems so I would like to ask it.
 
 My Platform:
 Tomcat 4.0.
 JDK 1.4
 RHT Linux
 
   We have this application hosted on an generic server say
 http://www.server.com now our reseller's can map their DNS such that
 www.reseller.com points to www.server.com this will be dynamic( since
 reseller's will be doing it themselves) so I can't use virtual host
 feature of tomcat. The idea is that customer of that reseller should not
 come to know that they are actually buying stuff from us  so the
 customer
 *always* sees the reseller's website url in his browser. All pages post
 to
 http://www.reseller.com/customer/xyz , which would post to us due to DNS
 mapping. So far so good. But in many critical places like Login,
 customer
 signup, we have hardcoded url's to our https:// server (same machine
 same
 tomcat) becoz reseller need not buy Secure Certificates.
  This is the problem. Inspite of my adding jsessionid to all such
 pages right from posting to https:// to META refreshes, I still can't
 seem
 to get back the session. Logically, if I pass in the right sessionid,
 tomcat
 should pick up the correct session but it is still picking up pre-login
 session  refusing the new sessionid got in the Authenticationservlet.
 
 I attach the jsessionid something like this
 
 
http://www.reseller.com:10001/anacreon/servlet/CustomerIndexServlet?jsessioni
d
 =A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375
 
  Does anyone have any idea how to solve it. Please ask me if you
 need
 more clarifications. I need to get this thing out.
 
  Thanks  Awaiting your replies,
  Jiger
 
 
 
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Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-26 Thread Jiger Java

I am appending jsessionid to the url. Abt PoST OR GET I am doing a meta 
refesh so It is a get I believe.

Jiger


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is it possible for a client to append JSESSIONID=sessionId to the url 
(i.e. 
http://theurl.com/theservlet?JSESSIONID=A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375) 
and still use the POST method, or is the usage of GET mandatory?

thanks.



At 08:54 02/05/26 +0530, you wrote:
Philip,
  I did try using url re-writing using jsessionid'd  that is why I 
wrote this mail. TOmcat seems to use jsessionid in cookies first  if not 
there only then take jsessionid from url. This is my guess coz that is 
what is happening.

Does anyone have any idea how to force using jsessionid in such situations 
to make user jump between two domains(though they are in reality same 
machine  same tomcat) without his knowlege.

-Jiger


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HTTP sessionsbrowsers are configured to associate cookies with domain
names.  They will not transmit a cookie to a domain other than the
originating domain (at least they shouldn't).  It has nothing to do with 
IP
address, only domain name.  I am not sure I understand your question, but 
if
I am reading it correctly, the only thing you can do is some manual
persistence scheme, such as using a database and url rewriting or some
similar scheme.

does this help?

fillup


On 5/25/02 3:43 AM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
I have checked the archives already but did not come across similar
  problems so I would like to ask it.
 
  My Platform:
  Tomcat 4.0.
  JDK 1.4
  RHT Linux
 
We have this application hosted on an generic server say
  http://www.server.com now our reseller's can map their DNS such that
  www.reseller.com points to www.server.com this will be dynamic( since
  reseller's will be doing it themselves) so I can't use virtual host
  feature of tomcat. The idea is that customer of that reseller should 
not
  come to know that they are actually buying stuff from us  so the 
customer
  *always* sees the reseller's website url in his browser. All pages 
post to
  http://www.reseller.com/customer/xyz , which would post to us due to 
DNS
  mapping. So far so good. But in many critical places like Login, 
customer
  signup, we have hardcoded url's to our https:// server (same machine 
same
  tomcat) becoz reseller need not buy Secure Certificates.
   This is the problem. Inspite of my adding jsessionid to all such
  pages right from posting to https:// to META refreshes, I still 
can't seem
  to get back the session. Logically, if I pass in the right sessionid, 
tomcat
  should pick up the correct session but it is still picking up 
pre-login
  session  refusing the new sessionid got in the Authenticationservlet

Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-25 Thread Phillip Morelock

HTTP sessionsbrowsers are configured to associate cookies with domain
names.  They will not transmit a cookie to a domain other than the
originating domain (at least they shouldn't).  It has nothing to do with IP
address, only domain name.  I am not sure I understand your question, but if
I am reading it correctly, the only thing you can do is some manual
persistence scheme, such as using a database and url rewriting or some
similar scheme.

does this help?

fillup


On 5/25/02 3:43 AM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
   I have checked the archives already but did not come across similar
 problems so I would like to ask it.
 
 My Platform:
 Tomcat 4.0.
 JDK 1.4
 RHT Linux
 
   We have this application hosted on an generic server say
 http://www.server.com now our reseller's can map their DNS such that
 www.reseller.com points to www.server.com this will be dynamic( since
 reseller's will be doing it themselves) so I can't use virtual host
 feature of tomcat. The idea is that customer of that reseller should not
 come to know that they are actually buying stuff from us  so the customer
 *always* sees the reseller's website url in his browser. All pages post to
 http://www.reseller.com/customer/xyz , which would post to us due to DNS
 mapping. So far so good. But in many critical places like Login, customer
 signup, we have hardcoded url's to our https:// server (same machine same
 tomcat) becoz reseller need not buy Secure Certificates.
  This is the problem. Inspite of my adding jsessionid to all such
 pages right from posting to https:// to META refreshes, I still can't seem
 to get back the session. Logically, if I pass in the right sessionid, tomcat
 should pick up the correct session but it is still picking up pre-login
 session  refusing the new sessionid got in the Authenticationservlet.
 
 I attach the jsessionid something like this
 http://www.reseller.com:10001/anacreon/servlet/CustomerIndexServlet?jsessionid
 =A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375
 
  Does anyone have any idea how to solve it. Please ask me if you need
 more clarifications. I need to get this thing out.
 
  Thanks  Awaiting your replies,
  Jiger
 
 
 
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Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-25 Thread Jiger Java

Philip,
  I did try using url re-writing using jsessionid'd  that is why I 
wrote this mail. TOmcat seems to use jsessionid in cookies first  if not 
there only then take jsessionid from url. This is my guess coz that is what 
is happening.

Does anyone have any idea how to force using jsessionid in such situations 
to make user jump between two domains(though they are in reality same 
machine  same tomcat) without his knowlege.

-Jiger


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HTTP sessionsbrowsers are configured to associate cookies with domain
names.  They will not transmit a cookie to a domain other than the
originating domain (at least they shouldn't).  It has nothing to do with IP
address, only domain name.  I am not sure I understand your question, but 
if
I am reading it correctly, the only thing you can do is some manual
persistence scheme, such as using a database and url rewriting or some
similar scheme.

does this help?

fillup


On 5/25/02 3:43 AM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
I have checked the archives already but did not come across similar
  problems so I would like to ask it.
 
  My Platform:
  Tomcat 4.0.
  JDK 1.4
  RHT Linux
 
We have this application hosted on an generic server say
  http://www.server.com now our reseller's can map their DNS such that
  www.reseller.com points to www.server.com this will be dynamic( since
  reseller's will be doing it themselves) so I can't use virtual host
  feature of tomcat. The idea is that customer of that reseller should not
  come to know that they are actually buying stuff from us  so the 
customer
  *always* sees the reseller's website url in his browser. All pages post 
to
  http://www.reseller.com/customer/xyz , which would post to us due to DNS
  mapping. So far so good. But in many critical places like Login, 
customer
  signup, we have hardcoded url's to our https:// server (same machine 
same
  tomcat) becoz reseller need not buy Secure Certificates.
   This is the problem. Inspite of my adding jsessionid to all such
  pages right from posting to https:// to META refreshes, I still can't 
seem
  to get back the session. Logically, if I pass in the right sessionid, 
tomcat
  should pick up the correct session but it is still picking up pre-login
  session  refusing the new sessionid got in the Authenticationservlet.
 
  I attach the jsessionid something like this
  
http://www.reseller.com:10001/anacreon/servlet/CustomerIndexServlet?jsessionid
  =A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375
 
   Does anyone have any idea how to solve it. Please ask me if you 
need
  more clarifications. I need to get this thing out.
 
   Thanks  Awaiting your replies,
   Jiger
 
 
 
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Re: Tomcat refusing jsessionid's

2002-05-25 Thread tek1

is it possible for a client to append JSESSIONID=sessionId to the url 
(i.e. 
http://theurl.com/theservlet?JSESSIONID=A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375) 
and still use the POST method, or is the usage of GET mandatory?

thanks.



At 08:54 02/05/26 +0530, you wrote:
Philip,
  I did try using url re-writing using jsessionid'd  that is why I 
 wrote this mail. TOmcat seems to use jsessionid in cookies first  if not 
 there only then take jsessionid from url. This is my guess coz that is 
 what is happening.

Does anyone have any idea how to force using jsessionid in such 
situations to make user jump between two domains(though they are in 
reality same machine  same tomcat) without his knowlege.

-Jiger


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HTTP sessionsbrowsers are configured to associate cookies with domain
names.  They will not transmit a cookie to a domain other than the
originating domain (at least they shouldn't).  It has nothing to do with IP
address, only domain name.  I am not sure I understand your question, but if
I am reading it correctly, the only thing you can do is some manual
persistence scheme, such as using a database and url rewriting or some
similar scheme.

does this help?

fillup


On 5/25/02 3:43 AM, Jiger Java [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,
I have checked the archives already but did not come across similar
  problems so I would like to ask it.
 
  My Platform:
  Tomcat 4.0.
  JDK 1.4
  RHT Linux
 
We have this application hosted on an generic server say
  http://www.server.com now our reseller's can map their DNS such that
  www.reseller.com points to www.server.com this will be dynamic( since
  reseller's will be doing it themselves) so I can't use virtual host
  feature of tomcat. The idea is that customer of that reseller should not
  come to know that they are actually buying stuff from us  so the customer
  *always* sees the reseller's website url in his browser. All pages post to
  http://www.reseller.com/customer/xyz , which would post to us due to DNS
  mapping. So far so good. But in many critical places like Login, customer
  signup, we have hardcoded url's to our https:// server (same machine same
  tomcat) becoz reseller need not buy Secure Certificates.
   This is the problem. Inspite of my adding jsessionid to all such
  pages right from posting to https:// to META refreshes, I still can't seem
  to get back the session. Logically, if I pass in the right sessionid, tomcat
  should pick up the correct session but it is still picking up pre-login
  session  refusing the new sessionid got in the Authenticationservlet.
 
  I attach the jsessionid something like this
  
 http://www.reseller.com:10001/anacreon/servlet/CustomerIndexServlet?jsessionid
  =A4A0314540585318A4F5E327F1457375
 
   Does anyone have any idea how to solve it. Please ask me if you need
  more clarifications. I need to get this thing out.
 
   Thanks  Awaiting your replies,
   Jiger
 
 
 
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