RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a service on win2k)

2004-05-19 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
I think this has been fixed in the latest tomcat service releases:
certainly since October 2003, and also since April 2004 (the
forums.java.sun.com link dates).  Try 5.0.24 or later and let us know.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Nybro Bolding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:21 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
service
on win2k)

Yes! I posted this the 10-12-2003:
- - - - -
Having played around with Tomcat 5 recently I discovered it apparently
used the jvm.dll installed as part of the public JRE.
I uninstalled the public JRE (leaving the SDK including its JRE intact)
and learned Tomcat would neither start nor was configurable. I tried
various setting in the Windows registry but was unable to bring it back
up.

My question is thus: Is the public JRE really neccessary for Tomcat to
run? How do I then specify I want to use server jvm, which 4.1.27
seemed
to use default?

And yes I have Googled, RTFM and looked in previous postings...

- - - - -

I had no answers though and solved the problem by installing the
public
JRE and copying the server jvm files to the publoic JRE.
Still I think this is somewhat tedious and not quite satisfying...

/Thomas






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6773

I personally have installed Tocmat on both windows and linux boxes and
haven't
had a problem but we had a client with an issue who was able to solve
it
by
installing the JRE as well as the SDK.

I've searched the archives to this list as well as looking at open
Tomcat
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Re: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a service on win2k)

2004-05-19 Thread Parsons Technical Services
Hello,

Not running TC on windows myself, but noted that a lot of talk about the
registry settings have been made on the list in the past I thought that this
line was noteworthy:

The private J2RE is required to run the tools included with the Java 2 SDK.
It has no registry settings and is contained entirely in a jre directory


Thus if you are relying on the registry entries for the JVM(at least for
older TC versions) you are SOL. When you download the SDK it includes the
Public JRE and thus does not require an additional download.

The above quote is from:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html#private

$.02

Doug

- Original Message - 
From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
service on win2k)



Hi,
I think this has been fixed in the latest tomcat service releases:
certainly since October 2003, and also since April 2004 (the
forums.java.sun.com link dates).  Try 5.0.24 or later and let us know.

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Thomas Nybro Bolding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:21 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
service
on win2k)

Yes! I posted this the 10-12-2003:
- - - - -
Having played around with Tomcat 5 recently I discovered it apparently
used the jvm.dll installed as part of the public JRE.
I uninstalled the public JRE (leaving the SDK including its JRE intact)
and learned Tomcat would neither start nor was configurable. I tried
various setting in the Windows registry but was unable to bring it back
up.

My question is thus: Is the public JRE really neccessary for Tomcat to
run? How do I then specify I want to use server jvm, which 4.1.27
seemed
to use default?

And yes I have Googled, RTFM and looked in previous postings...

- - - - -

I had no answers though and solved the problem by installing the
public
JRE and copying the server jvm files to the publoic JRE.
Still I think this is somewhat tedious and not quite satisfying...

/Thomas






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I've just been handed this link:
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=510659forum=45message=242
6773

I personally have installed Tocmat on both windows and linux boxes and
haven't
had a problem but we had a client with an issue who was able to solve
it
by
installing the JRE as well as the SDK.

I've searched the archives to this list as well as looking at open
Tomcat
bugs
and don't see anything on the subject.  Has anyone on this list dealt
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Re: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a service on win2k)

2004-05-19 Thread Ben Souther
Thank you Doug.
That link was just what I needed.

In summary:
As long as you don't actively opt not to install the public JRE while you are 
installing the j2sdk, Tomcat will run fine.

If I get a chance, I will try running 5.0.24 on a machine with the JRE not 
installed. If it still needs the public JRE, I'll make an attempt to get the 
issue added to the release notes.


Again, Thanks.
-Ben

On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:07 am, Parsons Technical Services wrote:
 Hello,

 Not running TC on windows myself, but noted that a lot of talk about the
 registry settings have been made on the list in the past I thought that
 this line was noteworthy:

 The private J2RE is required to run the tools included with the Java 2
 SDK. It has no registry settings and is contained entirely in a jre
 directory 

 Thus if you are relying on the registry entries for the JVM(at least for
 older TC versions) you are SOL. When you download the SDK it includes the
 Public JRE and thus does not require an additional download.

 The above quote is from:
 http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html#private

 $.02

 Doug

 - Original Message -
 From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:52 AM
 Subject: RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
 service on win2k)



 Hi,
 I think this has been fixed in the latest tomcat service releases:
 certainly since October 2003, and also since April 2004 (the
 forums.java.sun.com link dates).  Try 5.0.24 or later and let us know.

 Yoav Shapira
 Millennium Research Informatics

 -Original Message-

 From: Thomas Nybro Bolding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:21 AM
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a

 service

 on win2k)
 
 Yes! I posted this the 10-12-2003:
 - - - - -
 Having played around with Tomcat 5 recently I discovered it apparently
 used the jvm.dll installed as part of the public JRE.
 I uninstalled the public JRE (leaving the SDK including its JRE intact)
 and learned Tomcat would neither start nor was configurable. I tried
 various setting in the Windows registry but was unable to bring it back
 up.
 
 My question is thus: Is the public JRE really neccessary for Tomcat to
 run? How do I then specify I want to use server jvm, which 4.1.27

 seemed

 to use default?
 
 And yes I have Googled, RTFM and looked in previous postings...
 
 - - - - -
 
 I had no answers though and solved the problem by installing the

 public

 JRE and copying the server jvm files to the publoic JRE.
 Still I think this is somewhat tedious and not quite satisfying...
 
 /Thomas
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 6773

 I personally have installed Tocmat on both windows and linux boxes and
 haven't
 had a problem but we had a client with an issue who was able to solve

 it

 by
 installing the JRE as well as the SDK.
 
 I've searched the archives to this list as well as looking at open

 Tomcat

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Re: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a service on win2k)

2004-05-19 Thread Ben Souther
Followup:

I just downloaded and installed 5.0.24 on a win2k box.
It starts fine, even after uninstalling the public JRE.

I assume it's finding the jre inside the j2sdk via the JAVA_HOME environment 
variable as it should.

Thanks to all who helped.



On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:57 am, Ben Souther wrote:
 Thank you Doug.
 That link was just what I needed.

 In summary:
 As long as you don't actively opt not to install the public JRE while you
 are installing the j2sdk, Tomcat will run fine.

 If I get a chance, I will try running 5.0.24 on a machine with the JRE not
 installed. If it still needs the public JRE, I'll make an attempt to get
 the issue added to the release notes.


 Again, Thanks.
 -Ben

 On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:07 am, Parsons Technical Services wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Not running TC on windows myself, but noted that a lot of talk about the
  registry settings have been made on the list in the past I thought that
  this line was noteworthy:
 
  The private J2RE is required to run the tools included with the Java 2
  SDK. It has no registry settings and is contained entirely in a jre
  directory 
 
  Thus if you are relying on the registry entries for the JVM(at least for
  older TC versions) you are SOL. When you download the SDK it includes the
  Public JRE and thus does not require an additional download.
 
  The above quote is from:
  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html#private
 
  $.02
 
  Doug
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:52 AM
  Subject: RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
  service on win2k)
 
 
 
  Hi,
  I think this has been fixed in the latest tomcat service releases:
  certainly since October 2003, and also since April 2004 (the
  forums.java.sun.com link dates).  Try 5.0.24 or later and let us know.
 
  Yoav Shapira
  Millennium Research Informatics
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Thomas Nybro Bolding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:21 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
 
  service
 
  on win2k)
  
  Yes! I posted this the 10-12-2003:
  - - - - -
  Having played around with Tomcat 5 recently I discovered it apparently
  used the jvm.dll installed as part of the public JRE.
  I uninstalled the public JRE (leaving the SDK including its JRE intact)
  and learned Tomcat would neither start nor was configurable. I tried
  various setting in the Windows registry but was unable to bring it back
  up.
  
  My question is thus: Is the public JRE really neccessary for Tomcat to
  run? How do I then specify I want to use server jvm, which 4.1.27
 
  seemed
 
  to use default?
  
  And yes I have Googled, RTFM and looked in previous postings...
  
  - - - - -
  
  I had no answers though and solved the problem by installing the
 
  public
 
  JRE and copying the server jvm files to the publoic JRE.
  Still I think this is somewhat tedious and not quite satisfying...
  
  /Thomas
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Ben Souther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  19-05-2004 14:15
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  Til:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Vedr.:  Say it ain't so...  (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
 
  service
 
  on win2k)
  
  
  
  I've just been handed this link:
  http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=510659forum=45message=242
 
  6773
 
  I personally have installed Tocmat on both windows and linux boxes and
  haven't
  had a problem but we had a client with an issue who was able to solve
 
  it
 
  by
  installing the JRE as well as the SDK.
  
  I've searched the archives to this list as well as looking at open
 
  Tomcat
 
  bugs
  and don't see anything on the subject.  Has anyone on this list dealt
 
  with
 
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RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a service on win2k)

2004-05-19 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
Good follow-up, thank you.  And thanks Mladen for fixing/enhancing
procrun ;)

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


-Original Message-
From: Ben Souther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:37 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
service on win2k)

Followup:

I just downloaded and installed 5.0.24 on a win2k box.
It starts fine, even after uninstalling the public JRE.

I assume it's finding the jre inside the j2sdk via the JAVA_HOME
environment
variable as it should.

Thanks to all who helped.



On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:57 am, Ben Souther wrote:
 Thank you Doug.
 That link was just what I needed.

 In summary:
 As long as you don't actively opt not to install the public JRE while
you
 are installing the j2sdk, Tomcat will run fine.

 If I get a chance, I will try running 5.0.24 on a machine with the
JRE
not
 installed. If it still needs the public JRE, I'll make an attempt to
get
 the issue added to the release notes.


 Again, Thanks.
 -Ben

 On Wednesday 19 May 2004 09:07 am, Parsons Technical Services wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Not running TC on windows myself, but noted that a lot of talk
about
the
  registry settings have been made on the list in the past I thought
that
  this line was noteworthy:
 
  The private J2RE is required to run the tools included with the
Java 2
  SDK. It has no registry settings and is contained entirely in a jre
  directory 
 
  Thus if you are relying on the registry entries for the JVM(at
least
for
  older TC versions) you are SOL. When you download the SDK it
includes
the
  Public JRE and thus does not require an additional download.
 
  The above quote is from:
  http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/install-windows.html#private
 
  $.02
 
  Doug
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Shapira, Yoav [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:52 AM
  Subject: RE: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as
a
  service on win2k)
 
 
 
  Hi,
  I think this has been fixed in the latest tomcat service releases:
  certainly since October 2003, and also since April 2004 (the
  forums.java.sun.com link dates).  Try 5.0.24 or later and let us
know.
 
  Yoav Shapira
  Millennium Research Informatics
 
  -Original Message-
 
  From: Thomas Nybro Bolding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:21 AM
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Vedr.: Say it ain't so... (JRE needed to run Tomcat as a
 
  service
 
  on win2k)
  
  Yes! I posted this the 10-12-2003:
  - - - - -
  Having played around with Tomcat 5 recently I discovered it
apparently
  used the jvm.dll installed as part of the public JRE.
  I uninstalled the public JRE (leaving the SDK including its JRE
intact)
  and learned Tomcat would neither start nor was configurable. I
tried
  various setting in the Windows registry but was unable to bring it
back
  up.
  
  My question is thus: Is the public JRE really neccessary for
Tomcat to
  run? How do I then specify I want to use server jvm, which 4.1.27
 
  seemed
 
  to use default?
  
  And yes I have Googled, RTFM and looked in previous postings...
  
  - - - - -
  
  I had no answers though and solved the problem by installing the
 
  public
 
  JRE and copying the server jvm files to the publoic JRE.
  Still I think this is somewhat tedious and not quite satisfying...
  
  /Thomas
  
  
  
  
  
  
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  19-05-2004 14:15
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  service
 
  on win2k)
  
  
  
  I've just been handed this link:
 
http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jsp?thread=510659forum=45message=24
2
 
  6773
 
  I personally have installed Tocmat on both windows and linux boxes
and
  haven't
  had a problem but we had a client with an issue who was able to
solve
 
  it
 
  by
  installing the JRE as well as the SDK.
  
  I've searched the archives to this list as well as looking at open
 
  Tomcat
 
  bugs
  and don't see anything on the subject.  Has anyone on this list
dealt
 
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  this problem?
  
  
  
 
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