RE: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Randall Svancara
Dang, my literacy skilz suck today.  Sorry about that everyone.  

Have a good day.

-Original Message-
From: Randall Svancara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:49 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: mod_jk hangs


I bet your traffic has increase enough that hitting your limit.  I
implemented a web app at the beginning of this year 
and I eventually had to increase maximum for everything as our usage
increased.  

Randall

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:46 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs


Looks like the maximum for everyting in my config was 150 so I'll try 
setting maxSpareThreads for Tomcat to 150 as well. If this is indeed the

cause of the problem, any idea why it would just start happening 
yesterday after months without problem? My only guess is that perhaps we

just happened to reach some threshold of traffic yesterday that we never

did before. Actually, that may indeed be the case since we usually get a

surge of traffic during the beginning of a month.

Thanks,
-shawn

Randall Svancara wrote:

> Well, that depends on what platform and how apache was compiled.  As I
> understand on windows, apache uses the mpm modules and unix it uses
> forking or it can use mpm.  You need to find the section for you
> platform and make the ajustments as neccessary.  Below is the section
> where you need to look in your apache configuration file, usually
called
> httpd.conf, but i have seen them named apache.conf (gentoo anyone).
But
> you can see the min and max spare servers/threads listed in each
> section.  Just adjust accordingly.  
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> StartServers 75
> MinSpareServers  75
> MaxSpareServers 300
> MaxClients 300
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # worker MPM
> # StartServers: initial number of server processes to start
> # MaxClients: maximum number of simultaneous client connections
> # MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in each server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process
> serves
> 
> StartServers 75
> MaxClients 300
> MinSpareThreads 75
> MaxSpareThreads 300
> ThreadsPerChild 25
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # perchild MPM
> # NumServers: constant number of server processes
> # StartThreads: initial number of worker threads in each server
process
> # MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxThreadsPerChild: maximum number of worker threads in each server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of connections per server
process
> 
> NumServers   75
> StartThreads 75
> MinSpareThreads  75
> MaxSpareThreads 300
> MaxThreadsPerChild  20
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # WinNT MPM
> # ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in the server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum  number of requests a server process
> serves
> 
> ThreadsPerChild 250
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs
> 
> 
> Okay, here is the section from our server.xml in production:
> 
>
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
>
> 
>   resourceName="UserDatabase" />
> 
>
>  
>
> 
> I thought it interesting the comment that "this is here for 
> compatibility only, not required." It sounds to me that connector is 
> required if I want AJP/1.3 isn't it? I can't remember if that comment 
> was there or if I (mistakingly) added it. Anyways, I see that I could 
> probably do well to add the minSpareThreads and maxSpareThreads 
> parameters. Any idea where I should look in my httpd.conf file to see 
> what values to set these to?
> 
> Thanks,
> -shawn
> 
> Randall Svancara wrote:
> 
> 
>>You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads
> 
> for
> 
>>each apache thread. 
>>
>>I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure
> 
> I
> 
>>do not run out.  
>>
>>---snip
>>
>>
>>>   enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" 

RE: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Randall Svancara
I bet your traffic has increase enough that hitting your limit.  I
implemented a web app at the beginning of this year 
and I eventually had to increase maximum for everything as our usage
increased.  

Randall

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:46 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs


Looks like the maximum for everyting in my config was 150 so I'll try 
setting maxSpareThreads for Tomcat to 150 as well. If this is indeed the

cause of the problem, any idea why it would just start happening 
yesterday after months without problem? My only guess is that perhaps we

just happened to reach some threshold of traffic yesterday that we never

did before. Actually, that may indeed be the case since we usually get a

surge of traffic during the beginning of a month.

Thanks,
-shawn

Randall Svancara wrote:

> Well, that depends on what platform and how apache was compiled.  As I
> understand on windows, apache uses the mpm modules and unix it uses
> forking or it can use mpm.  You need to find the section for you
> platform and make the ajustments as neccessary.  Below is the section
> where you need to look in your apache configuration file, usually
called
> httpd.conf, but i have seen them named apache.conf (gentoo anyone).
But
> you can see the min and max spare servers/threads listed in each
> section.  Just adjust accordingly.  
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> StartServers 75
> MinSpareServers  75
> MaxSpareServers 300
> MaxClients 300
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # worker MPM
> # StartServers: initial number of server processes to start
> # MaxClients: maximum number of simultaneous client connections
> # MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in each server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process
> serves
> 
> StartServers 75
> MaxClients 300
> MinSpareThreads 75
> MaxSpareThreads 300
> ThreadsPerChild 25
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # perchild MPM
> # NumServers: constant number of server processes
> # StartThreads: initial number of worker threads in each server
process
> # MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept
spare
> # MaxThreadsPerChild: maximum number of worker threads in each server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of connections per server
process
> 
> NumServers   75
> StartThreads 75
> MinSpareThreads  75
> MaxSpareThreads 300
> MaxThreadsPerChild  20
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> # WinNT MPM
> # ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in the server
> process
> # MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum  number of requests a server process
> serves
> 
> ThreadsPerChild 250
> MaxRequestsPerChild  0
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs
> 
> 
> Okay, here is the section from our server.xml in production:
> 
>
>  
> 
>  
>  
> 
>  
>
> 
>   resourceName="UserDatabase" />
> 
>
>  
>
> 
> I thought it interesting the comment that "this is here for 
> compatibility only, not required." It sounds to me that connector is 
> required if I want AJP/1.3 isn't it? I can't remember if that comment 
> was there or if I (mistakingly) added it. Anyways, I see that I could 
> probably do well to add the minSpareThreads and maxSpareThreads 
> parameters. Any idea where I should look in my httpd.conf file to see 
> what values to set these to?
> 
> Thanks,
> -shawn
> 
> Randall Svancara wrote:
> 
> 
>>You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads
> 
> for
> 
>>each apache thread. 
>>
>>I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure
> 
> I
> 
>>do not run out.  
>>
>>---snip
>>
>>
>>>   enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" debug="0"
>>   minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
>>   protocol="AJP/1.3" />
>>---snip
>>
>>So you might want to increase 

Re: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Shawn Wilson
Looks like the maximum for everyting in my config was 150 so I'll try 
setting maxSpareThreads for Tomcat to 150 as well. If this is indeed the 
cause of the problem, any idea why it would just start happening 
yesterday after months without problem? My only guess is that perhaps we 
just happened to reach some threshold of traffic yesterday that we never 
did before. Actually, that may indeed be the case since we usually get a 
surge of traffic during the beginning of a month.

Thanks,
-shawn
Randall Svancara wrote:

Well, that depends on what platform and how apache was compiled.  As I
understand on windows, apache uses the mpm modules and unix it uses
forking or it can use mpm.  You need to find the section for you
platform and make the ajustments as neccessary.  Below is the section
where you need to look in your apache configuration file, usually called
httpd.conf, but i have seen them named apache.conf (gentoo anyone).  But
you can see the min and max spare servers/threads listed in each
section.  Just adjust accordingly.  

I hope this helps.




StartServers 75
MinSpareServers  75
MaxSpareServers 300
MaxClients 300
MaxRequestsPerChild  0

# worker MPM
# StartServers: initial number of server processes to start
# MaxClients: maximum number of simultaneous client connections
# MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in each server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process
serves

StartServers 75
MaxClients 300
MinSpareThreads 75
MaxSpareThreads 300
ThreadsPerChild 25
MaxRequestsPerChild  0

# perchild MPM
# NumServers: constant number of server processes
# StartThreads: initial number of worker threads in each server process
# MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxThreadsPerChild: maximum number of worker threads in each server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of connections per server process

NumServers   75
StartThreads 75
MinSpareThreads  75
MaxSpareThreads 300
MaxThreadsPerChild  20
MaxRequestsPerChild  0

# WinNT MPM
# ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in the server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum  number of requests a server process
serves

ThreadsPerChild 250
MaxRequestsPerChild  0





-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs
Okay, here is the section from our server.xml in production:

   
 
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
   
I thought it interesting the comment that "this is here for 
compatibility only, not required." It sounds to me that connector is 
required if I want AJP/1.3 isn't it? I can't remember if that comment 
was there or if I (mistakingly) added it. Anyways, I see that I could 
probably do well to add the minSpareThreads and maxSpareThreads 
parameters. Any idea where I should look in my httpd.conf file to see 
what values to set these to?

Thanks,
-shawn
Randall Svancara wrote:


You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads
for

each apache thread. 

I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure
I

do not run out.  

---snip

   
   
  minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
  protocol="AJP/1.3" />
---snip

So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk. 

Randall 



-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mod_jk hangs
Just yesterday we started running into problems requesting pages on
our 

production website through mod_jk. Previously everything had been 
working fine for months. Essentially what happens is when you request 
the page for the first time (doesn't seem to matter what browser
you're 

using) the browser just sits and spins. Then after hitting refresh 
(Ctrl+R) a couple times it finally comes up. Subsequent visits to the 
same page continue to work for me in Mozilla but after closing IE and 
reopening it after a couple more requests it hangs again. In case it 
helps, the site in question is http://www.atmreports.com.

I simply cannot figure out what is going on. I do see many errors in
the

mod_jk.log, but these had been there before when everything worked
fine

too:

[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1137)]: Error reading 
reply from tomcat. Tomcat is down or network problems.
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1290)]: ERROR: Receiving


f

RE: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Randall Svancara
Well, that depends on what platform and how apache was compiled.  As I
understand on windows, apache uses the mpm modules and unix it uses
forking or it can use mpm.  You need to find the section for you
platform and make the ajustments as neccessary.  Below is the section
where you need to look in your apache configuration file, usually called
httpd.conf, but i have seen them named apache.conf (gentoo anyone).  But
you can see the min and max spare servers/threads listed in each
section.  Just adjust accordingly.  

I hope this helps.




StartServers 75
MinSpareServers  75
MaxSpareServers 300
MaxClients 300
MaxRequestsPerChild  0


# worker MPM
# StartServers: initial number of server processes to start
# MaxClients: maximum number of simultaneous client connections
# MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in each server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of requests a server process
serves

StartServers 75
MaxClients 300
MinSpareThreads 75
MaxSpareThreads 300
ThreadsPerChild 25
MaxRequestsPerChild  0


# perchild MPM
# NumServers: constant number of server processes
# StartThreads: initial number of worker threads in each server process
# MinSpareThreads: minimum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxSpareThreads: maximum number of worker threads which are kept spare
# MaxThreadsPerChild: maximum number of worker threads in each server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum number of connections per server process

NumServers   75
StartThreads 75
MinSpareThreads  75
MaxSpareThreads 300
MaxThreadsPerChild  20
MaxRequestsPerChild  0


# WinNT MPM
# ThreadsPerChild: constant number of worker threads in the server
process
# MaxRequestsPerChild: maximum  number of requests a server process
serves

ThreadsPerChild 250
MaxRequestsPerChild  0







-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:21 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs


Okay, here is the section from our server.xml in production:

   
 

 
 

 
   

   

   
 
   

I thought it interesting the comment that "this is here for 
compatibility only, not required." It sounds to me that connector is 
required if I want AJP/1.3 isn't it? I can't remember if that comment 
was there or if I (mistakingly) added it. Anyways, I see that I could 
probably do well to add the minSpareThreads and maxSpareThreads 
parameters. Any idea where I should look in my httpd.conf file to see 
what values to set these to?

Thanks,
-shawn

Randall Svancara wrote:

> You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads
for
> each apache thread. 
> 
> I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure
I
> do not run out.  
> 
> ---snip
> 
> 
> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" debug="0"
>minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
>protocol="AJP/1.3" />
> ---snip
> 
> So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
> more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk. 
> 
> Randall 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:50 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: mod_jk hangs
> 
> 
> Just yesterday we started running into problems requesting pages on
our 
> production website through mod_jk. Previously everything had been 
> working fine for months. Essentially what happens is when you request 
> the page for the first time (doesn't seem to matter what browser
you're 
> using) the browser just sits and spins. Then after hitting refresh 
> (Ctrl+R) a couple times it finally comes up. Subsequent visits to the 
> same page continue to work for me in Mozilla but after closing IE and 
> reopening it after a couple more requests it hangs again. In case it 
> helps, the site in question is http://www.atmreports.com.
> 
> I simply cannot figure out what is going on. I do see many errors in
the
> 
> mod_jk.log, but these had been there before when everything worked
fine
> too:
> 
> [Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1137)]: Error reading 
> reply from tomcat. Tomcat is down or network problems.
> [Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1290)]: ERROR: Receiving

> from tomcat failed, recoverable operation. err=0
> [Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1309)]: sending request
to
> 
> tomcat failed in send loop. err=0
> [Wed May 0

Re: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Shawn Wilson
Okay, here is the section from our server.xml in production:

  




  
  
  

  
I thought it interesting the comment that "this is here for 
compatibility only, not required." It sounds to me that connector is 
required if I want AJP/1.3 isn't it? I can't remember if that comment 
was there or if I (mistakingly) added it. Anyways, I see that I could 
probably do well to add the minSpareThreads and maxSpareThreads 
parameters. Any idea where I should look in my httpd.conf file to see 
what values to set these to?

Thanks,
-shawn
Randall Svancara wrote:

You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads for
each apache thread. 

I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure I
do not run out.  

---snip



   minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
   protocol="AJP/1.3" />
---snip

So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk. 

Randall 



-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mod_jk hangs
Just yesterday we started running into problems requesting pages on our 
production website through mod_jk. Previously everything had been 
working fine for months. Essentially what happens is when you request 
the page for the first time (doesn't seem to matter what browser you're 
using) the browser just sits and spins. Then after hitting refresh 
(Ctrl+R) a couple times it finally comes up. Subsequent visits to the 
same page continue to work for me in Mozilla but after closing IE and 
reopening it after a couple more requests it hangs again. In case it 
helps, the site in question is http://www.atmreports.com.

I simply cannot figure out what is going on. I do see many errors in the

mod_jk.log, but these had been there before when everything worked fine
too:
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1137)]: Error reading 
reply from tomcat. Tomcat is down or network problems.
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1290)]: ERROR: Receiving 
from tomcat failed, recoverable operation. err=0
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1309)]: sending request to

tomcat failed in send loop. err=0
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (738)]: ERROR: can't 
receive the response message from tomcat, network problems or tomcat is 
down. err=-1

A few things to note, any of which may contribute to the problem but for

the life of me I can't figure out how:

1. On Friday we just moved out datacenter to a new location. However we 
see this problem even internally at the location so I don't believe it 
is any sort of routing issue (and the problem didn't start until
Tuesday).

2. The clock on this webserver was many hours off. On Tuesday (yes, the 
day the problems started) the clock was synchronized and the timezone 
correctly set so the machine now has correct time. This seems to be the 
most probable cause simply because it happened around the same time, but

I just can't understand why or how.

3. Yesterday we rebooted the box to see if that would help. It did. We 
didn't have any more problems at all that day until this morning we see 
the problems again. Today we recycled just tomcat and that seems to have

fixed it as well, though I expect that by tomorrow I will see the 
problem again.

4. I wouldn't think this could have anything to do with that new Sasser 
worm, but listing that just in case.

The machine is running Linux kernel 2.4.20-8 with httpd-2.0.40-21 and 
jakarta-tomcat-5.0.18. We are running 4 instances of tomcat on the box, 
each started with the following JVM options:

-Xmn128M -Xmx1024M -Djava.awt.headless=true

Nothing having to do with configuration has changed at all in a long 
time. Here is the relevant configuration sections:

# Mod_jk (Tomcat connector)
LoadModule jk_module modules/mod_jk.so

 JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
 JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
 JkLogLevel info
 JkLogStampFormat "[%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y] "
 JkOptions +ForwardKeySize +ForwardURICompat -ForwardDirectories
 JkRequestLogFormat "%w %V %T"

...and later (in a  section)...

 JKMount /myreports balancer
 JKMount /myreports/* balancer
Here is our workers.properties file (comments removed):

workers.java_home=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_03
ps=/
worker.list=balancer
worker.ajp13_0.port=8090
worker.ajp13_0.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_0.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_0.lbfactor=1
worker.ajp13_1.port=8091
worker.ajp13_1.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_1.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_1.lbfactor=1
worker.ajp13_2.port=8092
worker.ajp13_2.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_2.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_2.lbfactor=1
worker.ajp13_3.port=8093
worker.ajp13_3.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_3.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_3.lbfactor=1
worker.balancer.type=lb
worker.balancer.balanced_workers=ajp

RE: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Randall Svancara
On tomcat 4.1.30 it is minProcessors and maxProcessors.  And by the look of our 
production box, I could stand to increase the size a little bit too.









Randall  



-Original Message-
From: Daniel Gibby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:04 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: mod_jk hangs


Also, do these attributes need to be set on the HttpConnector on 8080 as 
well as the AJP or Coyote connector on 8009?

Daniel Gibby wrote:

> I can understand how that could help, is there a different syntax for 
> maxSpareThreads for tomcat4 than tomcat5?
>
> I see minProcessors and maxProcessors in my configuration, but nothing 
> about minSpareThreads or maxSpareThreads
>
> I'm using tomcat 4.1.30
>
> Daniel
>
> Randall Svancara wrote:
>
>> You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads for
>> each apache thread.
>> I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure I
>> do not run out. 
>> ---snip
>>
>>
>>> redirectPort="8443" debug="0"
>>   minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
>>   protocol="AJP/1.3" />
>> ---snip
>>
>> So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
>> more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk.
>> Randall  
>>
>
>
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Re: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Daniel Gibby
Also, do these attributes need to be set on the HttpConnector on 8080 as 
well as the AJP or Coyote connector on 8009?

Daniel Gibby wrote:

I can understand how that could help, is there a different syntax for 
maxSpareThreads for tomcat4 than tomcat5?

I see minProcessors and maxProcessors in my configuration, but nothing 
about minSpareThreads or maxSpareThreads

I'm using tomcat 4.1.30

Daniel

Randall Svancara wrote:

You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads for
each apache thread.
I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure I
do not run out. 
---snip

   
   
  minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
  protocol="AJP/1.3" />
---snip

So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk.
Randall  



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Re: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Daniel Gibby
I can understand how that could help, is there a different syntax for 
maxSpareThreads for tomcat4 than tomcat5?

I see minProcessors and maxProcessors in my configuration, but nothing 
about minSpareThreads or maxSpareThreads

I'm using tomcat 4.1.30

Daniel

Randall Svancara wrote:

You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads for
each apache thread. 

I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure I
do not run out.  

---snip

   
   
  minSpareThreads="100" maxSpareThreads="300"
  protocol="AJP/1.3" />
---snip

So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk. 

Randall 
 



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RE: mod_jk hangs

2004-05-05 Thread Randall Svancara
You might want to check to make sure you have enough tomcat threads for
each apache thread. 

I usually give tomcat a few more threads than apache just to make sure I
do not run out.  

---snip



---snip

So you might want to increase min and max spare threads to accomodate
more requestes from apache to tomcat via mod_jk. 

Randall 



-Original Message-
From: Shawn Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 9:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: mod_jk hangs


Just yesterday we started running into problems requesting pages on our 
production website through mod_jk. Previously everything had been 
working fine for months. Essentially what happens is when you request 
the page for the first time (doesn't seem to matter what browser you're 
using) the browser just sits and spins. Then after hitting refresh 
(Ctrl+R) a couple times it finally comes up. Subsequent visits to the 
same page continue to work for me in Mozilla but after closing IE and 
reopening it after a couple more requests it hangs again. In case it 
helps, the site in question is http://www.atmreports.com.

I simply cannot figure out what is going on. I do see many errors in the

mod_jk.log, but these had been there before when everything worked fine
too:

[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1137)]: Error reading 
reply from tomcat. Tomcat is down or network problems.
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1290)]: ERROR: Receiving 
from tomcat failed, recoverable operation. err=0
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (1309)]: sending request to

tomcat failed in send loop. err=0
[Wed May 05 09:27:46 2004]  [jk_ajp_common.c (738)]: ERROR: can't 
receive the response message from tomcat, network problems or tomcat is 
down. err=-1

A few things to note, any of which may contribute to the problem but for

the life of me I can't figure out how:

1. On Friday we just moved out datacenter to a new location. However we 
see this problem even internally at the location so I don't believe it 
is any sort of routing issue (and the problem didn't start until
Tuesday).

2. The clock on this webserver was many hours off. On Tuesday (yes, the 
day the problems started) the clock was synchronized and the timezone 
correctly set so the machine now has correct time. This seems to be the 
most probable cause simply because it happened around the same time, but

I just can't understand why or how.

3. Yesterday we rebooted the box to see if that would help. It did. We 
didn't have any more problems at all that day until this morning we see 
the problems again. Today we recycled just tomcat and that seems to have

fixed it as well, though I expect that by tomorrow I will see the 
problem again.

4. I wouldn't think this could have anything to do with that new Sasser 
worm, but listing that just in case.

The machine is running Linux kernel 2.4.20-8 with httpd-2.0.40-21 and 
jakarta-tomcat-5.0.18. We are running 4 instances of tomcat on the box, 
each started with the following JVM options:

-Xmn128M -Xmx1024M -Djava.awt.headless=true

Nothing having to do with configuration has changed at all in a long 
time. Here is the relevant configuration sections:


# Mod_jk (Tomcat connector)
LoadModule jk_module modules/mod_jk.so


 JkWorkersFile /etc/httpd/conf/workers.properties
 JkLogFile /var/log/httpd/mod_jk.log
 JkLogLevel info
 JkLogStampFormat "[%a %b %d %H:%M:%S %Y] "
 JkOptions +ForwardKeySize +ForwardURICompat -ForwardDirectories
 JkRequestLogFormat "%w %V %T"


...and later (in a  section)...

 JKMount /myreports balancer
 JKMount /myreports/* balancer

Here is our workers.properties file (comments removed):

workers.java_home=/usr/java/j2sdk1.4.2_03
ps=/
worker.list=balancer

worker.ajp13_0.port=8090
worker.ajp13_0.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_0.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_0.lbfactor=1

worker.ajp13_1.port=8091
worker.ajp13_1.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_1.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_1.lbfactor=1

worker.ajp13_2.port=8092
worker.ajp13_2.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_2.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_2.lbfactor=1

worker.ajp13_3.port=8093
worker.ajp13_3.host=localhost
worker.ajp13_3.type=ajp13
worker.ajp13_3.lbfactor=1

worker.balancer.type=lb
worker.balancer.balanced_workers=ajp13_0, ajp13_1, ajp13_2, ajp13_3
worker.balancer.sticky_session=1


Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
-shawn

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Shawn Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Software Developer, ATMReports.com
PH: 877-327-0873, FAX: 406-294-5806



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