Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task?
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
The user will install them , the man means that the user will run tomcat and mysql services from the CD . You did not get what he means . Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
I understood very well what he means. I simply tell people will not be happy if they have to install or to run many programs to browse his CD... My personal opinion is : as a customer, I would install (fear of viruses, lack of competences, lack of time...) a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to browse a CD. Would you? Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Mohammed Omar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 23:16 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. The user will install them , the man means that the user will run tomcat and mysql services from the CD . You did not get what he means . Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
User will not install anything. I will put pre-installed directories of JVM, Tomcat and MySQL on the CD with a batch file that runs them with !some! parameters. Everything is up automatically Imagine? For example: \JDK \JDK\bin ... \Tomcat \Tomcat\bin ... \MySQL \MySQL\bin \DATA \webcontents AUTORUN.BAT (for Windows machines) is at the root of the CD. tomcat\bin\tomcat --some-parameters mysql\bin\mysqld-nt --some-parameters-that-open-only-specified-ini-file start \webcontent\StartMyAppUp.html... and so on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I understood very well what he means. I simply tell people will not be happy if they have to install or to run many programs to browse his CD... My personal opinion is : as a customer, I would install (fear of viruses, lack of competences, lack of time...) a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to browse a CD. Would you? Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Mohammed Omar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 23:16 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. The user will install them , the man means that the user will run tomcat and mysql services from the CD . You did not get what he means . Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? And I did not yet spoke about some of these programs that may interfere with your customers programs. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 13:44 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. User will not install anything. I will put pre-installed directories of JVM, Tomcat and MySQL on the CD with a batch file that runs them with !some! parameters. Everything is up automatically Imagine? For example: \JDK \JDK\bin ... \Tomcat \Tomcat\bin ... \MySQL \MySQL\bin \DATA \webcontents AUTORUN.BAT (for Windows machines) is at the root of the CD. tomcat\bin\tomcat --some-parameters mysql\bin\mysqld-nt --some-parameters-that-open-only-specified-ini-file start \webcontent\StartMyAppUp.html... and so on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I understood very well what he means. I simply tell people will not be happy if they have to install or to run many programs to browse his CD... My personal opinion is : as a customer, I would install (fear of viruses, lack of competences, lack of time...) a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to browse a CD. Would you? Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Mohammed Omar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 23:16 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. The user will install them , the man means that the user will run tomcat and mysql services from the CD . You did not get what he means . Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands
Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
It sounds like the webapp is read only system (since it is going on a cd). If your UI is link based (no forms/sessions) - could you use a web sucker (like wget in recursive mode) and make a static copy of the site? Otherwise - flash is great for things like this. (But it is reinventing the wheel) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? And I did not yet spoke about some of these programs that may interfere with your customers programs. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 13:44 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. User will not install anything. I will put pre-installed directories of JVM, Tomcat and MySQL on the CD with a batch file that runs them with !some! parameters. Everything is up automatically Imagine? For example: \JDK \JDK\bin ... \Tomcat \Tomcat\bin ... \MySQL \MySQL\bin \DATA \webcontents AUTORUN.BAT (for Windows machines) is at the root of the CD. tomcat\bin\tomcat --some-parameters mysql\bin\mysqld-nt --some-parameters-that-open-only-specified-ini-file start \webcontent\StartMyAppUp.html... and so on -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:21 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I understood very well what he means. I simply tell people will not be happy if they have to install or to run many programs to browse his CD... My personal opinion is : as a customer, I would install (fear of viruses, lack of competences, lack of time...) a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to browse a CD. Would you? Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Mohammed Omar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 23:16 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. The user will install them , the man means that the user will run tomcat and mysql services from the CD . You did not get what he means . Thanks - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:06 AM Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I would put only static documents on the CD if I were you... You won't look like professional if you ship a CD containing a JVM, Tomcat MySQL to install. Personally, I would not install it. Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Murat Buyukkal ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 10:29 To: Tomcat-User@Jakarta. Apache. Org (E-mail) Subject: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I have a web application containing Servlets JSP pages and uses data on Oracle 9i Server. Data is like a product catalogue. I plan to periodically distribute this system (to people who do not have enough bandwidth to access to our LAN) on CDROM media which contains binaries of a JVM, Tomcat Server, Servlets JSPs and MySQL Server running with special parameters and data dumped into MySQL from Oracle. Is there anyone who accomplished this task? DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named
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On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, About the customers : they define the requirements. Who does not meet their requirements, lose them (especially the big ones)... Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 14:23 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Monday 15 July 2002 13:22, you wrote: On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? There is a project (I forget its name) which is building a version of Linux designed to run on a CD. Thus you do not have to make any assumptions about what is on the PC. You can lock this version down so that it does not even look at their disk, and provided you use the VESA framebuffer you are more or less guaranteed to get it to run on the screen. I am sure that this would provide you a very good platform for such an application. Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Agreed, but only with custom made software.. At the most you can ask your current customers to ask if they can agree to a certain solution, but hey : he is asking what the solution might be! Before he gets that answered customer contact is a big waste of time Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About the customers : they define the requirements. Who does not meet their requirements, lose them (especially the big ones)... Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 14:23 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
A little bit off-topic, but if it is not a custom-made software and if it targets a lot of not specific users, it cannot only rely on a particular configuration (imo). -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 15:30 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. Agreed, but only with custom made software.. At the most you can ask your current customers to ask if they can agree to a certain solution, but hey : he is asking what the solution might be! Before he gets that answered customer contact is a big waste of time Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About the customers : they define the requirements. Who does not meet their requirements, lose them (especially the big ones)... Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 14:23 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..(off-topic)
Here are two: http://www.virtual-linux.org/ http://www.demolinux.org/ I've seen demoLinux...it was pretty cool. Couldn't do much, but there's no reason why you couldn't burn a custom CD with both the Linux distro and the web application on it. You'd not only have to setup a database in RAM, you'd also have to do your logging in RAM, or turn your logging off, as well as tell tomcat to create it's work directories in RAM. Possible, I think, but certainly not trivial. John Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.aas.com -Original Message- From: David Goodenough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:24 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Monday 15 July 2002 13:22, you wrote: On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? There is a project (I forget its name) which is building a version of Linux designed to run on a CD. Thus you do not have to make any assumptions about what is on the PC. You can lock this version down so that it does not even look at their disk, and provided you use the VESA framebuffer you are more or less guaranteed to get it to run on the screen. I am sure that this would provide you a very good platform for such an application. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
I was just saying 2 mails ago : Who cares about customers ?? Tomcat-user list is not a marketing list.. He just wants to know how he can get that thing running on cd. he probably had a good reason to ask for this solution.. My reamrks were made so it got back ON topic again.. Sorry about the grumpy attitude, just thought he was asking on how to do that, not how to market it and do customer surveys. Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little bit off-topic, but if it is not a custom-made software and if it targets a lot of not specific users, it cannot only rely on a particular configuration (imo). -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 15:30 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. Agreed, but only with custom made software.. At the most you can ask your current customers to ask if they can agree to a certain solution, but hey : he is asking what the solution might be! Before he gets that answered customer contact is a big waste of time Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About the customers : they define the requirements. Who does not meet their requirements, lose them (especially the big ones)... Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 14:23 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
Unless you know your customers very well that isn't a road I would follow. I can hardly imagine cutomers that are willing to loose there primary os just to view a product catalog. That happens at least for the time you run the cd. (No quick copy and paste to the mail reader, no quit look at the internet site to order online, ...) Or do you know a solution that just opens a linux window without reboot under any os that might be used to view the cd. (VM Ware would allow such thing but, that requires that the customer alrady has it) I would recommend to define the java runtime environment as minimal requirement for the customer. (This way you don't need dll's, registry changes etc). Than you can deliver tomcat standalone with a pure java in-memory database and precompiled jsp's on cd -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: David Goodenough [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juli 2002 15:24 An: Tomcat Users List Betreff: Re: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. There is a project (I forget its name) which is building a version of Linux designed to run on a CD. Thus you do not have to make any assumptions about what is on the PC. You can lock this version down so that it does not even look at their disk, and provided you use the VESA framebuffer you are more or less guaranteed to get it to run on the screen. I am sure that this would provide you a very good platform for such an application. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media ..
Thanks for all the answers. Martin understood me very well. From now I am trying to construct what I said. If I can, I will write the solution.. Thank you again.. Murat. -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:50 PM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. I was just saying 2 mails ago : Who cares about customers ?? Tomcat-user list is not a marketing list.. He just wants to know how he can get that thing running on cd. he probably had a good reason to ask for this solution.. My reamrks were made so it got back ON topic again.. Sorry about the grumpy attitude, just thought he was asking on how to do that, not how to market it and do customer surveys. Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little bit off-topic, but if it is not a custom-made software and if it targets a lot of not specific users, it cannot only rely on a particular configuration (imo). -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 15:30 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. Agreed, but only with custom made software.. At the most you can ask your current customers to ask if they can agree to a certain solution, but hey : he is asking what the solution might be! Before he gets that answered customer contact is a big waste of time Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 15:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, About the customers : they define the requirements. Who does not meet their requirements, lose them (especially the big ones)... Greetings, André POWROZNIK -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 July 2002 14:23 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tomcat MySQL Run On Read-Only Media .. On Mon, 2002-07-15 at 13:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid it is not as as much easy as you think... 1) Will your customer agree to run these applications on their computer? 2) What if they are not using a PC (Mac?) or if they are not using Windows (Linux?)? Who cares.. If they order it, they have to.. 3) To run JSP you need a JDK, not a JRE. Wrong here.. Just if you want your jsp's to be dynamic.. Just precompile them.. 4) If you copy JDK, Tomcat MySQL files on the CD, will it work? In order to run they need : - DLLs in Windows system directories; - keys in Windows registry; - write access to some of their files... Use hsqldb instead which has a memory database.. 5) What about AUTOEXEC.BAT? It will do nothing if you put it on a CD : it needs to be in C:\, and there is already one there... ?? 6) What if your customers have problems running your CD? Will you create a hotline ;-) ? Not your problem I guess ;).. He was asking HOW not a project plan of things to resolve before hand.. TIP: Search the archives (maybe a year ago or something) there was a big thread about it, which actually worked towards a solution. Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachments thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by persons other than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto
