Upgrade or new install?

2003-06-20 Thread Lisa Foister
I'm currently running Tomcat 4.1.18 and mySQL 3.23.54 on Red Hat 8.0.  I 
haven't installed any connectors, and although I am running Tomcat on port 
8080, I'm not currently running Apache (Tomcat provides all the web server 
I really need).  This is really a learning/development system on my home 
network, and unless some hacker has singled me out and cracked my password, 
I'm the only person who ever uses the machine.  I am also a Linux novice, 
so it's a bit more difficult for me to figure out installs, etc. than it 
would be for someone with a bit more experience.

I need to install an application onto this machine for work, and have been 
told that it requires Tomcat 4.1.24 and mySQL 4.0.13, along with the mySQL 
connector 3.0.8.

Would it be easier/better for me to try to upgrade the versions of Tomcat 
and mySQL that I have, install the new versions in their own directory and 
just ignore the old ones, or delete the old ones entirely before installing 
the new ones from scratch?  Also, when I installed Tomcat 4.1.18, I did it 
from RPM and later discovered all kinds of special features (non-standard 
setups, standard directories missing, etc.).  Would it be better for me to 
use a more generic install?  Backing up the few projects I have under the 
Tomcat directory, and the mySQL databases I've been playing around with, 
isn't a problem -- there really isn't all that much there, and they're easy 
to restore to the appropriate places.

I'm looking for how to achieve the goal (Tomcat 4.1.24 connected to mySQL 
4.0.13) with the least amount of frustration possible for a Linux novice. I 
don't really care if it's the most efficient way, as long as it's clear and 
hard to screw up.

Thanks,

Lisa



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Re: Upgrade or new install?

2003-06-20 Thread John Turner
Hello -

I can't really address your questions relating to MySQL, but I can help you 
out relating to Tomcat.

In my opinion, this is how I would proceed given your situation:

- stop Tomcat 4.1.18.  Make sure it doesn't start on boot by removing the 
tomcat startup script from the boot sequence (we can help you on this if 
you need it)

- download the binary install of the latest JDK.  Unpack it, move it to a 
reasonable location, and set the JAVA_HOME environment variable to its 
location

- download the binary install of Tomcat 4.1.24.  Unpack it, move it to a 
reasonable location, like /usr/local/tomcat-4124, and set the CATALINA_HOME 
environment variable to its location

- upgrade your MySQL (not sure on the best way to suggest you do this)

- get the latest MySQL JDBC driver, or the one that is compatible with 
MySQL 4.0.13, copy the .jar file to CATALINA_HOME/tomcat/common/lib

My HOWTOs describe steps 2 and 3 above:  http://www.johnturner.com/howto.  
The version numbers for the JDK and Tomcat  are a little old, but the steps 
are the same.  Ignore the sections on installing Apache and installing a 
Connector.

Then, to start Tomcat, all you would do is use 
$CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh from the command line.  You might consider 
changing server.xml to use port 80 instead of 8080 to make things easier.

HTH

John

On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:22:01 -0400, Lisa Foister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

I'm currently running Tomcat 4.1.18 and mySQL 3.23.54 on Red Hat 8.0.  I 
haven't installed any connectors, and although I am running Tomcat on 
port 8080, I'm not currently running Apache (Tomcat provides all the web 
server I really need).  This is really a learning/development system on 
my home network, and unless some hacker has singled me out and cracked my 
password, I'm the only person who ever uses the machine.  I am also a 
Linux novice, so it's a bit more difficult for me to figure out installs, 
etc. than it would be for someone with a bit more experience.

I need to install an application onto this machine for work, and have 
been told that it requires Tomcat 4.1.24 and mySQL 4.0.13, along with the 
mySQL connector 3.0.8.

Would it be easier/better for me to try to upgrade the versions of Tomcat 
and mySQL that I have, install the new versions in their own directory 
and just ignore the old ones, or delete the old ones entirely before 
installing the new ones from scratch?  Also, when I installed Tomcat 
4.1.18, I did it from RPM and later discovered all kinds of special 
features (non-standard setups, standard directories missing, etc.).  
Would it be better for me to use a more generic install?  Backing up the 
few projects I have under the Tomcat directory, and the mySQL databases 
I've been playing around with, isn't a problem -- there really isn't all 
that much there, and they're easy to restore to the appropriate places.

I'm looking for how to achieve the goal (Tomcat 4.1.24 connected to mySQL 
4.0.13) with the least amount of frustration possible for a Linux novice. 
I don't really care if it's the most efficient way, as long as it's clear 
and hard to screw up.

Thanks,

Lisa



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