Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-31 Thread Dmitri Colebatch

On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Pier P. Fumagalli wrote:
> Jim Cheesman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > At 12:32 PM 31/07/01, you wrote:
> >
> >>  - text/x-vcard
> > 
> > What, no vcards??? I used to be able to waste hours tracking down and
> > deleting the little buggers from my hard drive! Now what am I going to do
> > on a Friday afternoon... after defrag, anti-virus, cleanup etc.
> 
> Next Friday, install a decent operating system :)
Oh come on then he wouldn't be able to play that new game... whats it
called?  The red worm game or something isn't it (o:


> 
> Pier
> 
> 




Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-31 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

Jim Cheesman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At 12:32 PM 31/07/01, you wrote:
>
>>  - text/x-vcard
> 
> What, no vcards??? I used to be able to waste hours tracking down and
> deleting the little buggers from my hard drive! Now what am I going to do
> on a Friday afternoon... after defrag, anti-virus, cleanup etc.

Next Friday, install a decent operating system :)

Pier




RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-31 Thread Loïc Lefèvre

The next question could be:
And for the attachments?!? ;)

just kidding :)

-Message d'origine-
De : Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Envoyé : mardi 31 juillet 2001 12:32
À : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Objet : RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc
bridge on linux)


[SNIP]

>
> This is going the last message with HTML enabled on the
> mailing list. :)
> Remember to modify your settings :) Those are the rejected stuff:
>  - text/html
>  - text/rtf
>  - text/enriched
>  - text/x-vcard
>
> Pier
>

C'mon, Mary, our job here is done! [rides off into the sunset]

On a serious note, I'd like to apologise to all of you who may have
been offended in any way with my little crusade against the
"Stylelized" messages.  The end justifies the means, right?

Regards,



Emir.

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the personal opinion of the author, i.e. myself. Under no
circumstances should the content be attributed to my employer.




RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-31 Thread

[SNIP]

> 
> This is going the last message with HTML enabled on the 
> mailing list. :)
> Remember to modify your settings :) Those are the rejected stuff:
>  - text/html
>  - text/rtf
>  - text/enriched
>  - text/x-vcard
> 
> Pier
> 

C'mon, Mary, our job here is done! [rides off into the sunset]

On a serious note, I'd like to apologise to all of you who may have
been offended in any way with my little crusade against the
"Stylelized" messages.  The end justifies the means, right?

Regards,



Emir.

DISCLAIMER: The content of the preceding message is exclusively
the personal opinion of the author, i.e. myself. Under no
circumstances should the content be attributed to my employer.



Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread Frans

+1 from me.. no HTML email.


- Original Message -
From: "Srinivas Reddy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:56 AM
Subject: Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc
bridge on linux)


> +1


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Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread Srinivas Reddy

+1 




RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread Nael Mohammad


+1 for plain text






-Original Message-
From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 4:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc
bridge on linux)


Pier P. Fumagalli at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> [ ] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.

We got more than 20 +1s, a couple of 0s, and no -1. So I asked root to
modify the mailing list...
I'll keep you updated on how this is going to happen (maybe few hours, maybe
few days!) :)

Pier



Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread David Smith

On Sunday 29 July 2001 10:42 am, you wrote:

[snip...]
> One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of
> your messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote
> open until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.
>

>  [ >X<] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.
>

I'd emphasize it more if I could.  HTML also comes with it's share of 
security headaches for those with HTML enabled email clients.

 

David Smith, CISSP
Network Operations Supervisor
Cornell University Department of Entomology
2121 Comstock Hall
Ithaca, NY  14853
Phone: (607) 255-9571
Fax: (607) 255-0939
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RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread Randy Layman

+0



Re: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-30 Thread Moin Anjum H.

[X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
[ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
[ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.





RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-29 Thread

[X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
[ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
[ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.

New subscribers should be POLITELY (he he he!) directed to read the FAQ upon
subscription.



RE: VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux)

2001-07-29 Thread Artigas, Ricardo Y.

yes!

> -Original Message-
> From: Pier P. Fumagalli [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 10:42 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  VOTE: HTML in Messages and politeness (Was: Re: jdbc odbc
> bridge on linux)
> 
> Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > What is rude was his posting on the list in format other than plain
> text.
> > Read the list's FAQ if you don't understand.
> 
> I believe _I_ wrote that list FAQ.
> 
> > The number of fancy-formatted messages is on the rise and if we don't
> nip
> > this in the bud, we may find ourselves in a position where folks who
> don't
> > use the latest version of $MAILCLIENT are unable to read the messages.
> I
> > myself use MS Outlook 2000 but I have no right to assume what the others
> are
> > using.  Hence the warning in the FAQ.
> > 
> > This is not my first post on this topic and I'm afraid it won't be the
> last.
> > I'm just trying to create awareness of the problem and I realise I
> sometimes
> > have to resort to not-so-nice means to draw the subscribers' attention
> to
> > it.  If I can convince one person not to use formatted messages on the
> list,
> > I'll be a happy man.
> 
> Awareness is created by asking KINDLY "Can you please not post
> HTML-formatted messages to the mailing list" more or less as you did on
> the
> 25th (even though I believe that the list of "offenders" is so
> ridiculous).
> 
> If you don't want to see HTML in messages, simply ask to get it removed by
> the mailing list owner (whops ME!), as we did on several others...
> 
> > I don't claim to be an all-knowing guru, but what I do know I will not
> share
> > with those who are arrogant enough not to respect the rules of the list
> > they're asking for help from.
> 
> Ok then, try to be a little bit more polite and respectful or just shut
> up.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> One thing I can ask to you guys is, do you want me to strip HTML out of
> your
> messages and reject emails only with HTML content type? Plenary vote open
> until 11:59 PM GMT of Monday 07/30/2001.
> 
> [ ] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.
> [ ]  0 -> I don't give a damn shit.
> [ ] -1 -> You mad? I love HTML in messages and want to keep using it.
> 
> Thanks :)
> 
> Pier



Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-29 Thread Sheryl Coppenger

> 
> Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Repost your question in plain text instead of RTF and I'll help you.
> 
> It _was_ also in plaintext, and the second part of the mime was in HTML, not
> RTF... I'm not a fan of HTML, but, IMNSHO, this is just plain rude...
> 
> Pier
> 

Actually, it wasn't in plain text if the reader uses elm, and possibly
some other mailers that don't read MIME at all.  Pine was able to turn
the MIME into text, but it did strange things with the mailing list 
information.  My vote would be

[X] +1 -> Plain Text only. Strip HTML on the mailing list.

but also no attachments.

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Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-29 Thread Nils O. Selåsdal

On Sunday 29 July 2001 01:12 am, you wrote:

> I'm not aware of any free jdbc drivers that will work
> with SQL Server, but there are a number of commercial
> solutions.  I use the OPTA 2000 driver from
> www.inetsoftware.de.
Take a look at www.freetds.org


-- 
Nils O. Selåsdal



RE: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-29 Thread Ramon Buckland


Here is a free JDBC Driver for MSSQL 7.0

http://www.thinweb.com/tw_download_twfreetds.html

It is based on FreeTDS from www.freetds.org which also has
it's own JDBC Driver. I don't know what differences they hold.

I wouldn't say it is production quality. But it does do simple
SELECT's etc. We have a few problems with it and thus use
a commercial version also.

Cheers.

- Ramon


-Original Message-
From: Jim Seach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2001 10:12 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux


The jdbc odbc bridge requires an odbc driver on the
local machine.  The local datasource then points to
the remote machine that the server is on, rather than
the JDBC URL.  The jdbc odbc driver is also not
multi-threaded, so not a good choice for using with
Tomcat.

I'm not aware of any free jdbc drivers that will work
with SQL Server, but there are a number of commercial
solutions.  I use the OPTA 2000 driver from
www.inetsoftware.de.

Hope this helps,

Jim
--- Jerry QU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I posted question about how to use Sun's jdbc.odbc
> bridge from jsp on linux to access SQL server on
> windows. because all examples I saw were using LOCAL
> dsn like jdbc:odbc:dsnName. but how to do it if the
> JSP is on linux and the SQL server is on a remote
> host.
> 
> something like jdbc:odbc:@host:port:DB_name(or
> DSN)???
> 
> I am kind of confused!!
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jerry
> 
>   
>  
> 


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RE: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-28 Thread

> -Original Message-
> From: Pier P. Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 8:33 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux
> 
> 
> Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Repost your question in plain text instead of RTF and I'll help you.
> 
> It _was_ also in plaintext, and the second part of the mime 
> was in HTML, not
> RTF... I'm not a fan of HTML, but, IMNSHO, this is just plain rude...
> 
> Pier
> 

What is rude was his posting on the list in format other than plain text.
Read the list's FAQ if you don't understand.

The number of fancy-formatted messages is on the rise and if we don't nip
this in the bud, we may find ourselves in a position where folks who don't
use the latest version of $MAILCLIENT are unable to read the messages.  I
myself use MS Outlook 2000 but I have no right to assume what the others are
using.  Hence the warning in the FAQ.

This is not my first post on this topic and I'm afraid it won't be the last.
I'm just trying to create awareness of the problem and I realise I sometimes
have to resort to not-so-nice means to draw the subscribers' attention to
it.  If I can convince one person not to use formatted messages on the list,
I'll be a happy man.

I don't claim to be an all-knowing guru, but what I do know I will not share
with those who are arrogant enough not to respect the rules of the list
they're asking for help from.

Regards,



Emir.



Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-28 Thread Pier P. Fumagalli

Emir Alikadic (ADNOC IS&T) at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Repost your question in plain text instead of RTF and I'll help you.

It _was_ also in plaintext, and the second part of the mime was in HTML, not
RTF... I'm not a fan of HTML, but, IMNSHO, this is just plain rude...

Pier




RE: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-28 Thread

Repost your question in plain text instead of RTF and I'll help you.

Regards, 



Emir.

 
-Original Message-
From: Jerry QU [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 2:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: jdbc odbc bridge on linux


Hi All,

I posted question about how to use Sun's jdbc.odbc bridge from jsp on linux
to access SQL server on windows. because all examples I saw were using LOCAL
dsn like jdbc:odbc:dsnName. but how to do it if the JSP is on linux and the
SQL server is on a remote host.

something like jdbc:odbc:@host:port:DB_name(or DSN)???

I am kind of confused!!

TIA

Jerry

  



Re: jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-28 Thread Jim Seach

The jdbc odbc bridge requires an odbc driver on the
local machine.  The local datasource then points to
the remote machine that the server is on, rather than
the JDBC URL.  The jdbc odbc driver is also not
multi-threaded, so not a good choice for using with
Tomcat.

I'm not aware of any free jdbc drivers that will work
with SQL Server, but there are a number of commercial
solutions.  I use the OPTA 2000 driver from
www.inetsoftware.de.

Hope this helps,

Jim
--- Jerry QU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I posted question about how to use Sun's jdbc.odbc
> bridge from jsp on linux to access SQL server on
> windows. because all examples I saw were using LOCAL
> dsn like jdbc:odbc:dsnName. but how to do it if the
> JSP is on linux and the SQL server is on a remote
> host.
> 
> something like jdbc:odbc:@host:port:DB_name(or
> DSN)???
> 
> I am kind of confused!!
> 
> TIA
> 
> Jerry
> 
>   
>  
> 


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jdbc odbc bridge on linux

2001-07-28 Thread Jerry QU



Hi All,
 
I posted question about how to use Sun's jdbc.odbc bridge from 
jsp on linux to access SQL server on windows. because all examples I saw were 
using LOCAL dsn like jdbc:odbc:dsnName. but how to do it if the JSP is 
on linux and the SQL server is on a remote host.
 
something like jdbc:odbc:@host:port:DB_name(or 
DSN)???
 
I am kind of confused!!
 
TIA
 
Jerry