mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-11-09 Thread Srinivas Rao Ch
Hi,

 

I am trying to implement load balancing with the Apache + mod_jk2 + Tomcat
setup. I configured jsp_examples application for clustering, it worked
perfectly. But my webapp is not working.

 

1.  Round robin behavior worked almost perfectly with jsp-examples, but
not with my application
2.  The session is not sticky though I set stickySession=1 in
workers2.properties

 

Here's my workers2.properties, any help is highly appreciated.

 

# Usually commented out

[logger.apache2]

file=F:\ApacheGroup\Apache\logs\error.log

level=ERROR

 

#provide the basic config needed

[config]

file=F:\ApacheGroup\Apache\logs\error.log

debug=1

 

#provide the lcoation of shm file on the Apache server

file=F:\ApacheGroup\Apache\conf\jk2.shm

size=100

 

#Tomcat5A

[channel.socket:dmsqmp:8009]

host=dmsqmp

port=8009

tomcatId=Tomcat5A

group=balanced

lb_factor=1

route=Tomcat5A

 

#Tomcat5A worker

[ajp13:dmsqmp:8009]

channel=chanel.socket:Tomcat5A

 

#Tomcat5B

[channel.socket:localhost:8009]

host=localhost

port=8009

tomcatId=Tomcat5B

group=balanced

lb_factor=1

route=Tomcat5B

 

#Tomcat5B worker

[ajp13:localhost:8009]

channel=chanel.socket:Tomcat5B

 

#Load balancer worker

[lb:balanced]

worker=ajp13:localhost:8009

worker=ajp13:dmsqmp:8009

timeout=30

attempts=2

recovery=90

stickySession=1

noWorkersMsg=Server Busy please try after some time.

noWorkerCodeMsg=503

 

#URI Mapping

[uri:/qwaf/*]

info=Mappings for the Tomcat context jsp-examples

context=/qwaf

group=balanced

 

#Define a status worker to test the run-time request behaviour to the all
workers

[status:]

 

#Status URI mapping

[uri:/jkstatus/*]

group=status

 

Regards,

Srinivas



Re: Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-24 Thread Ryan McConigley
At 12:16 PM 24/06/2004 +0800, you wrote:
Hi Ryan,
I should have asked this earlier, but are you using the RPM version of 
Apache or compiling the source tarball ? I notice that your directory is 
/usr/local, which indicates that you are probably using the source tarball 
(for RH9 rpms, it would be /etc/httpd).

If you are using the source tarball, there are a LOT of things that are 
different. I believe you are missing a package, hence the gdbm error. I 
cannot recall at the moment what the name of the package is -- can you do 
a search on rpmfind ? Another thing: apxs is located inside 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -- just do a find /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -name 
apxs to locate it.

Did you do a Minimal install for Red Hat ? You will need to ensure that 
you have the necessary packages installed. See this for a short list : 
http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/c875.html#JK2_INTEGRATION_SETUP

You probably don't need apr and apr-util because you installed Apache from 
source.
As promised, here are my notes on installing mod_jk2 with Apache 
2.0.49 and Tomcat 5.0.25.  This is under RedHat 9.0 and the paths and 
things are a straight cut and paste from my system here, so may not match 
up for all accounts.  Key problem I had was the libraries, once that was 
figured out it was some minor typos in the configuration files, and then 
its all up and going now.

Cheers,
Ryan.
Notes --
mod_jk2 (tomcat connector)
Download mod_jk2

http://apache.ausgamers.com/jakarta/tomcat-connectors/jk2/source/jakarta-tomcat-connectors-jk2-2.0.4-src.tar.gz
Check the 
http://apache.ausgamers.com/jakarta/tomcat-connectors/jk2/ page for 
information/status on mod_jk2

Uncompress the archive
gzip -dc jakarta-tomcat-connectors-jk2-2.0.4-src.tar.gz | 
tar -xvf -

Compile
cd to 
/usr/local/src/jakarta-tomcat-connectors-jk2-2.0.4-src/jk/native2

./configure --with-apxs2=/usr/local/httpd/bin/apxs 
--with-apr-lib=/usr/lib --with-tomcat-41=/usr/local/tomcat 
--with-java-home=/usr/java/jdk --with-jni

edit ./server/apache2/Makefile
Find the block --
ifdef APR_LIBDIR_LA
JK_LDFLAGS=-L${APACHE2_LIBDIR} -lcrypt
else
JK_LDFLAGS=-lcrypt ${APR_LIBS}
endif
And change it to this:
ifdef APR_LIBDIR_LA
JK_LDFLAGS=-L${APACHE2_LIBDIR} -lcrypt
else
JK_LDFLAGS=-lcrypt ${APR_LIBS} 
JK_LDFLAGS=-lcrypt ${APR_LIBS} -L/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/lib -laprutil-0 
-lgdbm -ldb-4.0 -lexpat
endif

Note the extra LDFLAGS -- JK_LDFLAGS=-lcrypt ${APR_LIBS} 
-L/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/lib -laprutil-0 -lgdbm -ldb-4.0 -lexpat

To know what flags to add, run
apu-config --link-ld --libs
That will output something like
 -L/usr/lib -laprutil-0 -lgdbm -lexpat
Then check the version of apu-config.  I discovered that I 
had two versions.  One in
/usr/bin and another in /usr/local/httpd/bin/

/usr/bin/apu-config --link-ld --libs
 -L/usr/lib -laprutil-0 -lgdbm -lexpat
/usr/local/httpd/bin/apu-config --link-ld --libs
 -L/usr/local/httpd/bin -laprutil-0 -lgdbm 
-ldb-4.2 -lexpat

When I tried adding the -ldb-4.2 flag it didn't like it, 
so I did a bit of a search and tried
 -L/usr/local/httpd/bin -laprutil-0 -lgdbm 
-ldb-4.0 -lexpat
instead which worked.  (I think the path for db-4.2 may 
need to be added to my /etc/ld.so.conf file?)

cd ../build/jk2/apache2
Run apxs
/usr/local/httpd/bin/apxs -n jk2 -i mod_jk2.so
Should see something like:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] apache2]# /usr/local/httpd/bin/apxs -n jk2 
-i mod_jk2.so
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/build/instdso.sh 
SH_LIBTOOL='/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/build/libtool' mod_jk2.so 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/build/libtool --mode=install cp 
mod_jk2.so /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/
cp mod_jk2.so /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/mod_jk2.so
Warning!  dlname not found in 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/mod_jk2.so.
Assuming installing a .so rather than a libtool archive.
chmod 755 /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/mod_jk2.so

Copy the created share object modules to the apache module directory
cp libjkjni.so 

Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-23 Thread Ryan McConigley
Greetings,
	I have a problem.  I am trying to get Tomcat (5.0.25), Apache (2.0.49) and 
mod_jk2 (2.0.4) all to talk to each other under RedHat 9.0.

	So far I can get Apache up and working on port 80 and Tomcat works fine on 
port 8080.  However, my users want to be able to use .jsp pages on their 
virtual hosts.

	I did have it working fine on the old machine we had (Redhat 7.3, Apache 
1.3, Tomcat 4 and mod_jk) but we upgraded and now its not working.

	One thing I have noticed is when Tomcat starts up there is the message:
INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: undefined symbol: apr_md5_final
	
	I assumed I was getting this because Apache was not compilied in with apr 
support, so I recompiled it with --with-apr and --with-apr-util.  Apache 
still works, but when I tried to recompile mod_jk2 it tells me now that my 
apxs can not be found, even though prior it was finding it ok and its quite 
clearly in the location specified.

	I'm not sure if that is a critical error or not or how to overcome it.  I 
have been trying different compile options, but still not getting much luck.

	When you click on a .jsp page, all that happens is the browser just sits 
there continually loading.  In the tomcat logs you get a line which says 
INFO: No next and thats it.

	Can anyone shed some light on my problem, before I do physical harm to the 
box in question.  The configuration files are as follows:   Also, can I 
have .jsp files enabled for some virtual servers and not for others, or is 
it an all or nothing affair?

--worker2.properties
# workers2.properties
# Shared memory handling. Needs to be set.
[shm]
info=Scoreboard.  Required for reconfiguration and status with multiprocess 
servers
file=/usr/local/tomcat/logs/jk2.shm
size=1048576
debug=0
disabled=0

#UNIX domain socket
[channel.un:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket]
tomcatId=localhst:8009
debug=0
# define the worker
#[ajp13:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket]
#chanel=channel.un:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket
[ajp13:localhost:8009]
channel=channel.socket:localhost:8009
# Announce a status worker
pstatus:status]
info=Status worker.  Displays runtime information.
[uri:/jkstatus/*]
group=status:status
# Uri mapping
[uri:/examples/*]
[uri:projects.csse.uwa.edu.au/*.jsp]
worker=ajp13:localhost:8009
[uri:perth-agentcity.csse.uwa.edu.au/*.jsp]
worker=ajp13:localhost:8009

---jk2_mod.conf (included in the apache.conf file)--
# Sample mod_jk2.conf  08-Feb-2004, located at:
# http://www.gknw.com/development/apache/docs/win32/mod_jk2/mod_jk2x.conf
#
# Load the mod_jk2 module
#
LoadModule jk2_module modules/mod_jk2.so
IfModule mod_jk2.c
#---
# Set the Apache2 logger level
#---
#
JkSet2 logger level debug
#---
# Set the alternate log file
#---
#
JkSet2 logger.file:0 file ${serverRoot}/logs/jk2.log
JkSet2 logger.file:0 level debug
#---
# Set the scoreboard file
#---
#
JkSet2 shm: file ${serverRoot}/logs/jk2.shm
JkSet2 shm: size 1048576
#---
# Where to find the workers2.properties file
#---
#
#JkSet config.file ${serverRoot}/conf/workers2.properties
#---
# Alternatively setup the workers here
#---
#
JkSet2 channel.socket:localhost:8009 info Ajp13 forwarding over socket
JkSet2 status: info Status worker, displays runtime information
JkSet2 workerEnv: logger logger.file:0
#---
# Configure the /jkstatus handler
#---
#
Location /jkstatus
JkUriSet group status:
JkUriSet info Map the /jkstatus handler to the Web server uri space
/Location
#---
# Configure Tomcat Example Applications
#---
#
Location /examples
JkUriSet group lb:lb
JkUriSet info Map the Tomcat examples to the Web server uri space
/Location
#---
# Configure Tomcat Documentation
#---
#
Location /tomcat-docs
JkUriSet group lb:lb
JkUriSet info Map the Tomcat docs to the Web server uri space

Re: Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-23 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Hi Ryan,
It sounds like an error similar to one Andrew Clute encountered on Red 
Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (apr_md5_final). I transcribed some of the steps 
he took here : http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/a1375.html

Can you test it first ? If it works, I would like to add a comment to 
the document that says that the steps apply to Red Hat 9 as well.

Regards,
pascal chong
Ryan McConigley wrote:
Greetings,
I have a problem.  I am trying to get Tomcat (5.0.25), Apache 
(2.0.49) and mod_jk2 (2.0.4) all to talk to each other under RedHat 9.0.

So far I can get Apache up and working on port 80 and Tomcat works 
fine on port 8080.  However, my users want to be able to use .jsp 
pages on their virtual hosts.

I did have it working fine on the old machine we had (Redhat 7.3, 
Apache 1.3, Tomcat 4 and mod_jk) but we upgraded and now its not working.

One thing I have noticed is when Tomcat starts up there is the 
message:
INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: undefined symbol: apr_md5_final

I assumed I was getting this because Apache was not compilied in 
with apr support, so I recompiled it with --with-apr and 
--with-apr-util.  Apache still works, but when I tried to recompile 
mod_jk2 it tells me now that my apxs can not be found, even though 
prior it was finding it ok and its quite clearly in the location 
specified.

I'm not sure if that is a critical error or not or how to overcome 
it.  I have been trying different compile options, but still not 
getting much luck.

When you click on a .jsp page, all that happens is the browser 
just sits there continually loading.  In the tomcat logs you get a 
line which says INFO: No next and thats it.

Can anyone shed some light on my problem, before I do physical 
harm to the box in question.  The configuration files are as 
follows:   Also, can I have .jsp files enabled for some virtual 
servers and not for others, or is it an all or nothing affair?

--worker2.properties
# workers2.properties
# Shared memory handling. Needs to be set.
[shm]
info=Scoreboard.  Required for reconfiguration and status with 
multiprocess servers
file=/usr/local/tomcat/logs/jk2.shm
size=1048576
debug=0
disabled=0

#UNIX domain socket
[channel.un:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket]
tomcatId=localhst:8009
debug=0
# define the worker
#[ajp13:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket]
#chanel=channel.un:/usr/local/tomcat/work/jk2.socket
[ajp13:localhost:8009]
channel=channel.socket:localhost:8009
# Announce a status worker
pstatus:status]
info=Status worker.  Displays runtime information.
[uri:/jkstatus/*]
group=status:status
# Uri mapping
[uri:/examples/*]
[uri:projects.csse.uwa.edu.au/*.jsp]
worker=ajp13:localhost:8009
[uri:perth-agentcity.csse.uwa.edu.au/*.jsp]
worker=ajp13:localhost:8009
 

---jk2_mod.conf (included in the apache.conf 
file)--
# Sample mod_jk2.conf  08-Feb-2004, located at:
# http://www.gknw.com/development/apache/docs/win32/mod_jk2/mod_jk2x.conf
#
# Load the mod_jk2 module
#
LoadModule jk2_module modules/mod_jk2.so

IfModule mod_jk2.c
#---
# Set the Apache2 logger level
#---
#
JkSet2 logger level debug
#---
# Set the alternate log file
#---
#
JkSet2 logger.file:0 file ${serverRoot}/logs/jk2.log
JkSet2 logger.file:0 level debug
#---
# Set the scoreboard file
#---
#
JkSet2 shm: file ${serverRoot}/logs/jk2.shm
JkSet2 shm: size 1048576
#---
# Where to find the workers2.properties file
#---
#
#JkSet config.file ${serverRoot}/conf/workers2.properties
#---
# Alternatively setup the workers here
#---
#
JkSet2 channel.socket:localhost:8009 info Ajp13 forwarding over 
socket
JkSet2 status: info Status worker, displays runtime information
JkSet2 workerEnv: logger logger.file:0

#---
# Configure the /jkstatus handler
#---
#
Location /jkstatus
JkUriSet group status:
JkUriSet info Map the /jkstatus handler to the Web server uri 
space
/Location

#---
# Configure Tomcat Example Applications

Re: Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-23 Thread Ryan McConigley
At 10:09 PM 23/06/2004 +0800, you wrote:
Hi Ryan,
It sounds like an error similar to one Andrew Clute encountered on Red Hat 
Enterprise Linux 3 (apr_md5_final). I transcribed some of the steps he 
took here : http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/a1375.html

Can you test it first ? If it works, I would like to add a comment to the 
document that says that the steps apply to Red Hat 9 as well.

Regards,
pascal chong
Thanks for that.  I gave that a whirl, putting in the extra 
library and that solved the problem of the undefined symbol apr_md5_final 
error, but now I'm getting the following error instead:

INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/lib/libaprutil-0.so.0: undefined symbol: gdbm_errno

Which would appear that that linked library isn't correct.
Any hints?


Ryan McConigley wrote:
Greetings,
I have a problem.  I am trying to get Tomcat (5.0.25), Apache 
(2.0.49) and mod_jk2 (2.0.4) all to talk to each other under RedHat 9.0.

So far I can get Apache up and working on port 80 and Tomcat works 
fine on port 8080.  However, my users want to be able to use .jsp pages 
on their virtual hosts.

I did have it working fine on the old machine we had (Redhat 7.3, 
Apache 1.3, Tomcat 4 and mod_jk) but we upgraded and now its not working.

One thing I have noticed is when Tomcat starts up there is the message:
INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: undefined symbol: apr_md5_final

I assumed I was getting this because Apache was not compilied in 
with apr support, so I recompiled it with --with-apr and 
--with-apr-util.  Apache still works, but when I tried to recompile 
mod_jk2 it tells me now that my apxs can not be found, even though prior 
it was finding it ok and its quite clearly in the location specified.

I'm not sure if that is a critical error or not or how to overcome 
it.  I have been trying different compile options, but still not getting 
much luck.

When you click on a .jsp page, all that happens is the browser just 
sits there continually loading.  In the tomcat logs you get a line which 
says INFO: No next and thats it.

Can anyone shed some light on my problem, before I do physical harm 
to the box in question.  The configuration files are as follows:   Also, 
can I have .jsp files enabled for some virtual servers and not for 
others, or is it an all or nothing affair?
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Re: Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-23 Thread Chong Yu Meng
Hi Ryan,
I should have asked this earlier, but are you using the RPM version of 
Apache or compiling the source tarball ? I notice that your directory is 
/usr/local, which indicates that you are probably using the source 
tarball (for RH9 rpms, it would be /etc/httpd).

If you are using the source tarball, there are a LOT of things that are 
different. I believe you are missing a package, hence the gdbm error. I 
cannot recall at the moment what the name of the package is -- can you 
do a search on rpmfind ? Another thing: apxs is located inside 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -- just do a find /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -name 
apxs to locate it.

Did you do a Minimal install for Red Hat ? You will need to ensure that 
you have the necessary packages installed. See this for a short list : 
http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/c875.html#JK2_INTEGRATION_SETUP

You probably don't need apr and apr-util because you installed Apache 
from source.

Regards,
pascal chong
Ryan McConigley wrote:
At 10:09 PM 23/06/2004 +0800, you wrote:
Hi Ryan,
It sounds like an error similar to one Andrew Clute encountered on 
Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 (apr_md5_final). I transcribed some of the 
steps he took here : http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/a1375.html

Can you test it first ? If it works, I would like to add a comment to 
the document that says that the steps apply to Red Hat 9 as well.

Regards,
pascal chong

Thanks for that.  I gave that a whirl, putting in the extra 
library and that solved the problem of the undefined symbol 
apr_md5_final error, but now I'm getting the following error instead:

INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/lib/libaprutil-0.so.0: undefined symbol: 
gdbm_errno

Which would appear that that linked library isn't correct.
Any hints?


Ryan McConigley wrote:
Greetings,
I have a problem.  I am trying to get Tomcat (5.0.25), Apache 
(2.0.49) and mod_jk2 (2.0.4) all to talk to each other under RedHat 
9.0.

So far I can get Apache up and working on port 80 and Tomcat 
works fine on port 8080.  However, my users want to be able to use 
.jsp pages on their virtual hosts.

I did have it working fine on the old machine we had (Redhat 
7.3, Apache 1.3, Tomcat 4 and mod_jk) but we upgraded and now its 
not working.

One thing I have noticed is when Tomcat starts up there is the 
message:
INFO: APR not loaded, disabling jni components: java.io.IOException: 
java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49/modules/jkjni.so: undefined symbol: 
apr_md5_final

I assumed I was getting this because Apache was not compilied in 
with apr support, so I recompiled it with --with-apr and 
--with-apr-util.  Apache still works, but when I tried to recompile 
mod_jk2 it tells me now that my apxs can not be found, even though 
prior it was finding it ok and its quite clearly in the location 
specified.

I'm not sure if that is a critical error or not or how to 
overcome it.  I have been trying different compile options, but 
still not getting much luck.

When you click on a .jsp page, all that happens is the browser 
just sits there continually loading.  In the tomcat logs you get a 
line which says INFO: No next and thats it.

Can anyone shed some light on my problem, before I do physical 
harm to the box in question.  The configuration files are as 
follows:   Also, can I have .jsp files enabled for some virtual 
servers and not for others, or is it an all or nothing affair?

*snip*
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   Tel: (+61 8) 6488 7082 - Fax: (+61 8) 6488 1089   _/`-  
_  '.
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Re: Apache2, Tomcat5 and mod_jk2 configuration problems

2004-06-23 Thread Ryan McConigley
At 12:16 PM 24/06/2004 +0800, you wrote:
Hi Ryan,
I should have asked this earlier, but are you using the RPM version of 
Apache or compiling the source tarball ? I notice that your directory is 
/usr/local, which indicates that you are probably using the source tarball 
(for RH9 rpms, it would be /etc/httpd).

If you are using the source tarball, there are a LOT of things that are 
different. I believe you are missing a package, hence the gdbm error. I 
cannot recall at the moment what the name of the package is -- can you do 
a search on rpmfind ? Another thing: apxs is located inside 
/usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -- just do a find /usr/local/httpd-2.0.49 -name 
apxs to locate it.

Did you do a Minimal install for Red Hat ? You will need to ensure that 
you have the necessary packages installed. See this for a short list : 
http://cymulacrum.net/writings/tomcat5/c875.html#JK2_INTEGRATION_SETUP

You probably don't need apr and apr-util because you installed Apache from 
source.
I just got it working.  I had installed it from source, was a 
library problem.  Just writing up my documentation at the moment.  I'll 
send you a copy of that when I'm done.

Cheers,
Ryan.
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