Re: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

2003-02-03 Thread Justyna Horwat
I talked to the original Tomcat author, James Duncan Davidson, about the 
name choice. He gave me a surprising answer. Here's a bit of history...

Tomcat was born in response to the need for an independant servlet 
specification implementation. James wrote it hoping that it would 
eventually be open sourced. He figured that since most open source 
projects had O'reilly books about them that he should name it after an 
animal. Essentially he was thinking of an animal that would go on the 
cover of an O'reilly book. He came up with Tomcat since the animal 
represented something that could take care of itself and fend for 
itself. That's how he came up with the name.

I asked him about the jet fighter. James said that though the F-14 is 
his favorite fighter, the name is just a coincidence.

Justyna
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Sean Dockery wrote:

I would speculate that the Tomcat name is, as in, F-14 Tomcat...

At a recent Sun Developer Days I attended, one of the presenters who was
pumping the Sun ONE application framework talked about the framework's
history.  Until the re-branding of the framework to Sun ONE blah blah blah,
the framework was known as JATO--which stands for Java Assisted Take Off.
That originated from the engineers who were enamored by the JATO
acronym--which stands for Jet Assisted Take Off in USAF (and perhaps
civilian airline) lingo.  The engineers felt that using the JATO framework
would propel (pun) your project far ahead of your competitors.

I wouldn't be surprised if the name Tomcat was similarly conceived from F-14
Tomcat.

This is mere speculation; only the original Tomcat authors know for sure.
:-)

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy wrote:

 

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:50:20 -0800
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To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

While on this topic - how did the name Tomcat come about?
   


I'm afraid that one was before my time as well -- tomcat was Sun's
internal code name for the servlet/JSP container before it was contributed
to Apache, and I don't know what the history of the name was.

 

Thanx
Ganesh
   


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RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

2003-02-03 Thread Turner, John

Thanks for the info!

John


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I talked to the original Tomcat author, James Duncan Davidson, about the 
name choice. He gave me a surprising answer. Here's a bit of history...

Tomcat was born in response to the need for an independant servlet 
specification implementation. James wrote it hoping that it would 
eventually be open sourced. He figured that since most open source 
projects had O'reilly books about them that he should name it after an 
animal. Essentially he was thinking of an animal that would go on the 
cover of an O'reilly book. He came up with Tomcat since the animal 
represented something that could take care of itself and fend for 
itself. That's how he came up with the name.

I asked him about the jet fighter. James said that though the F-14 is 
his favorite fighter, the name is just a coincidence.

Justyna
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sean Dockery wrote:

I would speculate that the Tomcat name is, as in, F-14 Tomcat...

At a recent Sun Developer Days I attended, one of the presenters who 
was pumping the Sun ONE application framework talked about the 
framework's history.  Until the re-branding of the framework to Sun ONE 
blah blah blah, the framework was known as JATO--which stands for Java 
Assisted Take Off. That originated from the engineers who were enamored 
by the JATO acronym--which stands for Jet Assisted Take Off in USAF 
(and perhaps civilian airline) lingo.  The engineers felt that using 
the JATO framework would propel (pun) your project far ahead of your 
competitors.

I wouldn't be surprised if the name Tomcat was similarly conceived from 
F-14 Tomcat.

This is mere speculation; only the original Tomcat authors know for 
sure.
:-)

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy wrote:

  

Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:50:20 -0800
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Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

While on this topic - how did the name Tomcat come about?



I'm afraid that one was before my time as well -- tomcat was Sun's 
internal code name for the servlet/JSP container before it was 
contributed to Apache, and I don't know what the history of the name 
was.

  

Thanx
Ganesh



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Re: what is catalina?..

2003-02-01 Thread Wilson Snook
I'd just like to say thank you to you for posting here.  It's immensely
useful for a newbie like me.

Wilson

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 On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Barker wrote:

  Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:44:14 -0800
  From: Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: what is catalina?..
 
  Catalina is also the name of a small island off the coast of southern
  California.  I, personally, have no idea why this was chosen as a
package
  name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).  Especially since the
  principal author doesn't live in So. CA.
 

 Bill's right about Jakarta.  Using Catalina was my idea, because I
 wrote most of the original code that became it.  The reasons are mundane,
 but here they are for the record:

 * Even though I don't live in Southern CA, I've always liked
   what I've read and seen of Catalina Island.

 * One of the towns on the island is Avalon, and we were (at the
   beginning) considering using the Avalon Framework
   (http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/) for the internal architecture.
   It would have been a cute tie-in, but alas it didn't happen
   that way.

 * When I'm coding, I regularly have one or more cats wandering
   around my lap and adding to the whitespace when they don't
   think I put enough (you don't need fingers to press the space bar :-).

 Another code name you'll hear in the Tomcat world is Jasper -- that's
 the name of the JSP page compiler part of Tomcat.  That name was carried
 over from even before my time, but I'm sure it probabbly came from the
 alliteration (JaSPer).

 Craig McClanahan

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Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-31 Thread Mr. Cristian Romanescu
NO! You are completely wrong!

...Catalina is actually a beautiful princess with big blue 
eyes...and...blonde...hair...sitting there in your box all alone, forced to 
listen all the cr*p played by the TCP radio, more commonly on 8080MHz, 
(some high skilled actually succeed to accord it on the 80MHz, but that's 
though!)
Sysadmins, the bad guys or company internal police actually 
bring this Apache so she would not try to escape after all that stress.
And as in those love stories, the Apache and Catalina fall in love 
together, and after a little time come to life
those little kids also known as 'servlets'...living all together until the 
end of times (if they are on the Linux Planet, of course) or until your 
next electrical problem.

Go ahead and open yer box...and you'll see that i'm not kidding you...

Cheers...hope I raise yer morale...yet! :)))


C.

=
Ask stupid questions and you'll get stupid answers:
If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it 
considered a hostage situation?
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At 11:19 PM 1/30/2003 -0800, you wrote:

rf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 --- Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Catalina is also the name of a small island off the
  coast of southern
  California.  I, personally, have no idea why this
  was chosen as a package
  name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).
  Especially since the
  principal author doesn't live in So. CA.
 

 Any idea why jakarta is chosen for
 jakarta.apache.org? whats the relation between jakarta
 and apache?


This one I actually know :).  It is a popular fallacy that it is because
Jakarta is (as it happens) the capital of the island of Java in Indonesia.
The real reason is that it was simply the name of the conference room in Sun
where the project was launched.

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Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-31 Thread Craig R. McClanahan


On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Barker wrote:

 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:44:14 -0800
 From: Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is catalina?..

 Catalina is also the name of a small island off the coast of southern
 California.  I, personally, have no idea why this was chosen as a package
 name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).  Especially since the
 principal author doesn't live in So. CA.


Bill's right about Jakarta.  Using Catalina was my idea, because I
wrote most of the original code that became it.  The reasons are mundane,
but here they are for the record:

* Even though I don't live in Southern CA, I've always liked
  what I've read and seen of Catalina Island.

* One of the towns on the island is Avalon, and we were (at the
  beginning) considering using the Avalon Framework
  (http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/) for the internal architecture.
  It would have been a cute tie-in, but alas it didn't happen
  that way.

* When I'm coding, I regularly have one or more cats wandering
  around my lap and adding to the whitespace when they don't
  think I put enough (you don't need fingers to press the space bar :-).

Another code name you'll hear in the Tomcat world is Jasper -- that's
the name of the JSP page compiler part of Tomcat.  That name was carried
over from even before my time, but I'm sure it probabbly came from the
alliteration (JaSPer).

Craig McClanahan

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RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-31 Thread Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy
While on this topic - how did the name Tomcat come about?

Thanx
Ganesh

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On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Bill Barker wrote:

 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 22:44:14 -0800
 From: Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is catalina?..

 Catalina is also the name of a small island off the coast of southern
 California.  I, personally, have no idea why this was chosen as a package
 name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).  Especially since the
 principal author doesn't live in So. CA.


Bill's right about Jakarta.  Using Catalina was my idea, because I
wrote most of the original code that became it.  The reasons are mundane,
but here they are for the record:

* Even though I don't live in Southern CA, I've always liked
  what I've read and seen of Catalina Island.

* One of the towns on the island is Avalon, and we were (at the
  beginning) considering using the Avalon Framework
  (http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/) for the internal architecture.
  It would have been a cute tie-in, but alas it didn't happen
  that way.

* When I'm coding, I regularly have one or more cats wandering
  around my lap and adding to the whitespace when they don't
  think I put enough (you don't need fingers to press the space bar :-).

Another code name you'll hear in the Tomcat world is Jasper -- that's
the name of the JSP page compiler part of Tomcat.  That name was carried
over from even before my time, but I'm sure it probabbly came from the
alliteration (JaSPer).

Craig McClanahan

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RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-31 Thread Craig R. McClanahan


On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy wrote:

 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:50:20 -0800
 From: Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

 While on this topic - how did the name Tomcat come about?

I'm afraid that one was before my time as well -- tomcat was Sun's
internal code name for the servlet/JSP container before it was contributed
to Apache, and I don't know what the history of the name was.


 Thanx
 Ganesh

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RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-31 Thread Sean Dockery
I would speculate that the Tomcat name is, as in, F-14 Tomcat...

At a recent Sun Developer Days I attended, one of the presenters who was
pumping the Sun ONE application framework talked about the framework's
history.  Until the re-branding of the framework to Sun ONE blah blah blah,
the framework was known as JATO--which stands for Java Assisted Take Off.
That originated from the engineers who were enamored by the JATO
acronym--which stands for Jet Assisted Take Off in USAF (and perhaps
civilian airline) lingo.  The engineers felt that using the JATO framework
would propel (pun) your project far ahead of your competitors.

I wouldn't be surprised if the name Tomcat was similarly conceived from F-14
Tomcat.

This is mere speculation; only the original Tomcat authors know for sure.
:-)

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy wrote:

 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:50:20 -0800
 From: Sankaranarayanan (Ganesh) Ganapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [BULK] - Re: what is catalina?..

 While on this topic - how did the name Tomcat come about?

I'm afraid that one was before my time as well -- tomcat was Sun's
internal code name for the servlet/JSP container before it was contributed
to Apache, and I don't know what the history of the name was.


 Thanx
 Ganesh

Craig



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what is catalina?..

2003-01-30 Thread Ramkumar Krishnan



Hi,
 I am a newbie to tomcat and catalina?..what is 
catalina?..what is the use of it?..

thanks,
Ramkumar


Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-30 Thread Bill Barker
Catalina is also the name of a small island off the coast of southern
California.  I, personally, have no idea why this was chosen as a package
name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).  Especially since the
principal author doesn't live in So. CA.

Antonio Vázquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
009901c2c856$05c16be0$67589b12@k712a">news:009901c2c856$05c16be0$67589b12@k712a...
 Catalina is the name of the Java class of Tomcat from version 4.0

 When you start tomcat, really you are starting catalina class;
 Antonio,

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 From: Ramkumar Krishnan
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:35 PM
 Subject: what is catalina?..


 Hi,
 I am a newbie to tomcat and catalina?..what is catalina?..what is the
 use of it?..

 thanks,
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Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-30 Thread rf

--- Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Catalina is also the name of a small island off the
 coast of southern
 California.  I, personally, have no idea why this
 was chosen as a package
 name (I haven't been hanging out here that long). 
 Especially since the
 principal author doesn't live in So. CA.
 

Any idea why jakarta is chosen for
jakarta.apache.org? whats the relation between jakarta
and apache?

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Re: what is catalina?..

2003-01-30 Thread Bill Barker

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 --- Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Catalina is also the name of a small island off the
  coast of southern
  California.  I, personally, have no idea why this
  was chosen as a package
  name (I haven't been hanging out here that long).
  Especially since the
  principal author doesn't live in So. CA.
 

 Any idea why jakarta is chosen for
 jakarta.apache.org? whats the relation between jakarta
 and apache?


This one I actually know :).  It is a popular fallacy that it is because
Jakarta is (as it happens) the capital of the island of Java in Indonesia.
The real reason is that it was simply the name of the conference room in Sun
where the project was launched.

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