Re: [Toolserver-l] Wikidata-moving
On 02/20/2013 08:03 PM, DaB. wrote:
it looks like the WMF-techs are moving wikidata to cluster s5 at the moment
(without announcement of course).
I wish I had already been in the loop, DaB, because I would have made
sure you had been notified as soon as it was known.
I think that's a communication failure on our* part that, as an external
user of that resource, you weren't put in the change notification loop.
I'll try to make certain that the toolserver admins are put on the
checklist of people to notify when performing a replication-impacting
change so that this does not occur again for planned interventions.
Again, sorry for the trouble this will have caused you.
-- Marc
* ('our' being a little presumptive here for a couple of days, but I've
no doubt that the oversight was accidental)
___
Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org)
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l
Posting guidelines for this list:
https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] Wikidata-moving
Hello all, it looks like the WMF-techs are moving wikidata to cluster s5 at the moment (without announcement of course). I'm quite sure that this will break our wikidata-replication; so after my sleep I will look how the situation will be and than probably re-import wikidata everywhere (wikidata is still quite small at the moment so that's still possible). So expect the wikidata replag to rise during the next hours. Sincerely, DaB. -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Visibility of tools
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Mashiah Davidson wrote: > I'd like to suggest connectivity project ran with use of golem tool to be of > higher visibility. The tool is hungry to database server power and is > currently limited in function for laregest wikis. > > There is definitely a group of people from different countries who could > vote for this proposal. I just doubt it is right to seek for required votes > in toolserver maillist only, many participants are members of language > specific connectivity projects. Just let us know more clearly how to vote :) -- regards, Lvova Anastasia ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Visibility of tools
I'd like to suggest connectivity project ran with use of golem tool to be of higher visibility. The tool is hungry to database server power and is currently limited in function for laregest wikis. The idea is that isolated articles or isolate clusters of connected articles are not being read much, their page rank does not allow them appear high in goolgle results, and it is difficult to cross-verify those articles with others because of no hyperlink connection or low amount of. Authors of isolated articles are not always aware of the fact their article is isolated. The tool analyses the graph of links between wikipedia articles, identifies isolated clusters of different types and then mark wikipedia articles with visible or invisible templates making authors aware through their watchlist of the fact that articles they created are isolated. Few years of use with russian wikipedia show that the amount of isolated articles gets reduced if the bot marks daily of more often, is stable when bot comes once per 1 - 3 days, and grows with wikipedia size when there is no bot running. What is an article, and which links are to be counted - this is all customizable. There is definitely a group of people from different countries who could vote for this proposal. I just doubt it is right to seek for required votes in toolserver maillist only, many participants are members of language specific connectivity projects. However, let me try collecting votes here, all depends on who is currently active in the maillist reading. The gate to the tool is here: http://toolserver.org/~lvova/cgi-bin/go.sh?&interface=en mashiah On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:47 PM, Morten Wang wrote: > The Signpost ran a tool-related note in their tech report back in > mid-December ( > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-12-17/Technology_report), > suggesting that there's some precedent. If a group of people who run > interesting tools get together and show interest, it should be possible to > get more visibility? > > > Regards, > Morten > > > On 20 February 2013 11:25, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > >> Silke Meyer wrote: >> >> > I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this >> > collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so >> > much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to >> > find them... >> > There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be >> > shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know* >> > about existing tools. >> >> > How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the >> > toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I >> > heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a >> > visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like >> > the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find >> > it and the person(s) behind. >> >> > What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The >> > Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this >> > topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some >> > opinions when back. :) >> >> I've suggested a while back >> (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the >> old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then >> post status and ongoing project reports there. It has a >> different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-), >> but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for >> isn't a bad idea IMHO. >> >> amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-). >> >> Tim >> >> >> ___ >> Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l >> Posting guidelines for this list: >> https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > > > > ___ > Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l > Posting guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Visibility of tools
The Signpost ran a tool-related note in their tech report back in mid-December ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2012-12-17/Technology_report), suggesting that there's some precedent. If a group of people who run interesting tools get together and show interest, it should be possible to get more visibility? Regards, Morten On 20 February 2013 11:25, Tim Landscheidt wrote: > Silke Meyer wrote: > > > I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this > > collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so > > much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to > > find them... > > There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be > > shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know* > > about existing tools. > > > How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the > > toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I > > heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a > > visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like > > the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find > > it and the person(s) behind. > > > What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The > > Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this > > topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some > > opinions when back. :) > > I've suggested a while back > (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the > old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then > post status and ongoing project reports there. It has a > different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-), > but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for > isn't a bad idea IMHO. > > amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-). > > Tim > > > ___ > Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l > Posting guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Visibility of tools
Silke Meyer wrote: > I was thinking about the list of tools a bit more... In my opinion, this > collection of tools should be more visible to the world! There is so > much work and knowledge in there and partially you really have to dig to > find them... > There is this plan to create/improve Labs/Tool Labs so that tools can be > shared with others more easily. So one very important thing is to *know* > about existing tools. > How about dragging these tools into the spotlight? (The ones on the > toolserver as well as the ones already living in Labs.) The other day I > heard the proposal from a community member to have featured tools in a > visible place, e.g. a "tool of the month" or even of the week. I like > the idea! It could shortly present a tool, what it does, where to find > it and the person(s) behind. > What do you think of it? The first place that came to my mind where The > Signpost and/or German language Kurier where we could suggest this > topic. I'll be afk for the next few days and I'd be glad to read some > opinions when back. :) I've suggested a while back (https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1271) to import the old Toolserver blog/comments to blog.wikimedia.de and then post status and ongoing project reports there. It has a different audience, probably more (potential) donors :-), but showing them what "some server in Amsterdam" is used for isn't a bad idea IMHO. amaranth needs to be fixed before that, though :-). Tim ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] sql-s5 (dewiki) will be read-only tomorrow
u_lvova_golem_XXX databases are safe to skip during the move. Golem will re-create those bases on the new host. Size of those bases depends on actual connectivity situation and after re-creation the size will be similar to what it is now. By the way, I've found s2 to be much slower after re-setup than the server, which handled both previously, s2 and s5. mashiah On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Tong Minh wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM, DaB. wrote: >> >> 51G p_globalusage_weekly_p >> >> Is anybody using this database? I recall setting it up together with > somebody (Maarten?). If the information is not used by anybody, I don't > oppose dropping the database. > > > Bryan > > ___ > Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l > Posting guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] sql-s5 (dewiki) will be read-only tomorrow
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM, DaB. wrote: > > 51G p_globalusage_weekly_p > > Is anybody using this database? I recall setting it up together with somebody (Maarten?). If the information is not used by anybody, I don't oppose dropping the database. Bryan ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
[Toolserver-l] sql-s5 (dewiki) will be read-only tomorrow
Hello all, s5 (dewiki) is the next cluster for re-setup. I already got a fresh dump from the WMF and imported it too on a server. The next step is to move the user- databases over. For this I have to switch s5 into read-only. The read-only- phase will start at Tomorrow, Thursday after 13:00 UTC. s5 carries a few very big user-databases, so I think the movement will take more an 1 day. Below is a list of the biggest user-databases, maybe their owners can take a look if some clean-up is possible? Unfortunately s5 can not stay at the new place because the server belongs to OSM. So a second read-only-phase will happen in near future (that one should be a bit faster because I will just rsync files around instead of importing). Sincerely, DaB. 1.2Gu_lvova_golem_s2_zh 1.3Gu_hroest 1.3Gu_rdf_bots 1.6Gu_multichill_commons_categories_p 1.7Gu_lvova_golem_s5_de 1.8Gu_mauro742 2.7Gu_dschwen 20G p_merlbot_dewiki_lists 51G p_globalusage_weekly_p -- Userpage: [[:w:de:User:DaB.]] — PGP: 0x2d3ee2d42b255885 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] New Rule: SGE-constraint for bots
Hi Am 19.02.2013 17:38, schrieb Kai Nissen: Yes, when using get_current_user() the returned user name is "sgeadmin". Try changing your script to something like what is proposed in the toolserver wiki: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Database_access#PHP Thank you both, works now. Peter ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
