Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/28/2013 07:15 PM, DaB. wrote:
> Even more useful would have been a "We improved since last time, please come 
> and check again".

Well, I /do/ take some pains to post regular updates, on labs-l and here
as well.  :-)  Watch for emails from me (generally on Mondays) on those
lists.

Also, [1] and [2] are good sources of information and generally kept
pretty well up-to-date.  I remember Silke and Sumanah having pointed at
both at regular interval.

> Until now I never found a tool-labs-URL in the wild. Is there a list of what 
> you are hosting?

http://tools.wmflabs.org/ displays a list of publicly visible tools, I
know there are a couple more being set up that aren't yet ready for
prime time.

-- Marc

[1]
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Tool_Labs/Needed_Toolserver_features

[2] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Labs/Tool_Labs/Help



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Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread DaB.
Hello,
At Monday 29 April 2013 01:11:46 DaB. wrote:
> On 04/28/2013 04:42 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
> > I tried labs and I hate it, if someone tries to force it on my now I'll
> > just shut down my tools and leave.
> 
> Even more useful would be a list of actual issues you've encountered, so
> that we may address them in the future.

Even more useful would have been a "We improved since last time, please come 
and check again".

> 
> That said, "far from ready" is neither fair nor very accurate; unless
> your tool requires access to the database dumps - which are coming - the
> tools project /is/ ready and quite functional; and there are already
> several tools running there.

Until now I never found a tool-labs-URL in the wild. Is there a list of what 
you are hosting?

> 
> -- Marc

Sincerely,
DaB.


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Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 04/28/2013 04:42 PM, Maarten Dammers wrote:
> I tried labs and I hate it, if someone tries to force it on my now I'll
> just shut down my tools and leave.

Even more useful would be a list of actual issues you've encountered, so
that we may address them in the future.

That said, "far from ready" is neither fair nor very accurate; unless
your tool requires access to the database dumps - which are coming - the
tools project /is/ ready and quite functional; and there are already
several tools running there.

-- Marc


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Re: [Toolserver-l] Thoughts and questions to WMDE members about TS and expectations

2013-04-28 Thread Maarten Dammers

Op 27-4-2013 18:00, DaB. schreef:

Hello,
At Saturday 27 April 2013 17:19:29 DaB. wrote:

To cut a long story short: I am not sure what you expect me to do in
this situation. Please clarify! I don't want to deal with a task
without a clear task.

as a WMDE-member and toolserver-admin I would like to answer you.

I expect you to represent the toolserver against your boss, Pavel. And I
expect that you do it in favor of the toolserver and get us as much support
(in money, man-power and other things) as possible.
Hear hear DaB! We're in a classic IT situation: The "old" system (in 
this case the Toolserver) is falling apart and the "new" system (labs) 
is far from ready. Let's not make the age old mistake of trying to move 
faster to the new system. I tried labs and I hate it, if someone tries 
to force it on my now I'll just shut down my tools and leave. I'm afraid 
I wouldn't be the only one.


Maarten


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Re: [Toolserver-l] Doxygen and coverage

2013-04-28 Thread Platonides
On 28/04/13 13:44, Dr. Trigon wrote:
> Hello Admins!
> 
> Could please someone take care of TS-1301 [1]? This ticket is now
> open for quite a while and having the possibility to generate docs
> and coverage reports on the TS would be very favourable.
> 
> [1] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1301
> 
> Thanks a lot and Greetings! DrTrigon

I tried to add a puppet entry for that in the devel manifest, but my
commit was rejected (access to the file forbidden).

I left a question there regarding the coverage pkg.


PS: It seems that there was a temporary LDAP failure yesterday night,
I had a number of jobs in error status with reason «can't get password
entry for user "platonides". Either the user does not exist or NIS
error!»  and there were ‘temporarily not available’ queues.
I have reenabled the affected queues
(short-...@wolfsbane.toolserver.org, longrun...@yarrow.toolserver.org,
medium-...@wolfsbane.toolserver.org, medium...@mayapple.toolserver.org)

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[Toolserver-l] Doxygen and coverage

2013-04-28 Thread Dr. Trigon
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Hello Admins!

Could please someone take care of TS-1301 [1]? This ticket is now open
for quite a while and having the possibility to generate docs and
coverage reports on the TS would be very favourable.

[1] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1301

Thanks a lot and Greetings!
DrTrigon
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[Toolserver-l] Cronjobs

2013-04-28 Thread Dr. Trigon
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Hello Admins!

As I noticed it seems as if the cronjobs are executed correct at the
moment, so may be TS-1635 [1] can be closed. Though the statistics on
[2] are gone. Furthermore there are several cron-servers on [3] now.

Can someone give me a brief introduction on what changed and how this
works now?


[1] https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/TS-1635
[2] http://munin.toolserver.org/Login/hawthorn/cron_jobs_sh.html
[3] http://munin.toolserver.org/Login/index.html

Thanks a lot and Greetings
DrTrigon
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