Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver db outperformed by labs

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
The problem starts at the servers abilities to categorize each discrepancy.
If it cant it dumps without hesitating. Overloading the server is one thing
it wont  do to itself on both negative and positive sides. When server
programs start having issues their discrepancies affect the servers log
which affects the servers progress in its own job.  If u have one server
give it 2 input and output nodes ONLY otherwise  all ur programs will back
the server db up.
On May 23, 2013 5:40 PM, "Platonides"  wrote:

> Today^W Yesterday, I was asked about some file numbers, which involved
> subcategory traversing, which is an "inefficient" problem. It seemed a
> good problem for comparing toolserver and labs. And toolserver db sucks:
>
> willow: 31m5.157s (user 0m4.038s)
> labs: 0m4.271s (user 2.488)
>
> Toolserver was *436 times slower*.
>
> Surely, the labs server is better (in hardware) than the one in TS. I
> don't know how many scripts were hitting the TS db, while the labs one
> would be almost-idle. Still, it seems a really big gap. Do we have
> something wrongly configured? Did mariadb somehow massively improve vs
> mysql? Are some parameters too small? Is it just a problem that the
> mysql servers are underprovisioned of ram?
>
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
I am not spam and a beautiful human being. Altho my replied might not make
sense to some I am on many email lists so pardon if u are not understanding
me, it maybe that information is for the ones that know what to do with the
information. Its Hard to block a smooth operator such as myself. Keep up
the good corrections I Pray all is well with my Wikiedians.
Best Regards-MILASTARX-TS
On May 23, 2013 9:49 AM, "Hersfold Wikipedia" 
wrote:

> +1. Only two of her emails I can pull up on my phone have been even
> potentially constructive; all of the more recent ones are nonsense or
> outright spam.
>
> 
> User:Hersfold
> hersfoldw...@gmail.com
>
> Sent from my Windows Phone
> From: Daniel Schwen
> Sent: 5/23/2013 10:34
> To: Wikimedia Toolserver
> Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie 
> At this point it doesn't even matter anymore. None of her posts so far
> made any sense or contributed in a meaningful way. Please block.
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jeremy Baron 
> wrote:
> > On May 23, 2013 7:30 AM, "Patricia Pintilie" 
> wrote:
> >> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries
> successfully. http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
> >
> > Hi Patricia,
> >
> > Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -Jeremy
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
Your welcome if I had any part in helping you out.
On May 23, 2013 2:31 PM, "Hercule Hercule" 
wrote:

> The addition of console_encoding = 'utf-8' in my user-config.py solved
> the issue. Thanks everybody for your help
>
>
> 2013/5/23 Hercule Hercule 
>
>> I added
>> export LANG
>> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
>> in the script, but it still make incorrect comments.
>>
>> I add enclosed the sh file, if it can help
>>
>>
>> 2013/5/23 Lars Aronsson 
>>
>>> On 05/23/2013 02:40 PM, Hercule Hercule wrote:
>>>
 I already tried to add

 export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is
 not an identifier
 LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.

>>>
>>> The syntax "export A=B" is from bash, a common login shell.
>>> However, most scripts are traditionally written in #!/bin/sh
>>> where the syntax requires "export A" and "A=B" to be written
>>> as two separate statements.
>>>
>>> (Knowledge from the 1980s.)
>>>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Toolserver db outperformed by labs

2013-05-23 Thread Tim Landscheidt
(anonymous) wrote:

> Today^W Yesterday, I was asked about some file numbers, which involved
> subcategory traversing, which is an "inefficient" problem. It seemed a
> good problem for comparing toolserver and labs. And toolserver db sucks:

> willow: 31m5.157s (user 0m4.038s)
> labs: 0m4.271s (user 2.488)

> Toolserver was *436 times slower*.

> Surely, the labs server is better (in hardware) than the one in TS. I
> don't know how many scripts were hitting the TS db, while the labs one
> would be almost-idle. Still, it seems a really big gap. Do we have
> something wrongly configured? Did mariadb somehow massively improve vs
> mysql? Are some parameters too small? Is it just a problem that the
> mysql servers are underprovisioned of ram?

IIRC, the replicated databases on Labs are hosted on SSDs so
it's not really fair to compare them :-).  What would proba-
bly be a better benchmark are user databases on Toolserver
and tools-db on Labs; the latter (different credentials than
replicated databases) is on a VM with storage on a (IIRC
spinning) NFS server, but that would of course neglect that
the Toolserver databases have to cope with replication as
well, while tools-db only holds the user databases.  So I
don't think an adequate comparison can be made.

Tim


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[Toolserver-l] Toolserver db outperformed by labs

2013-05-23 Thread Platonides
Today^W Yesterday, I was asked about some file numbers, which involved
subcategory traversing, which is an "inefficient" problem. It seemed a
good problem for comparing toolserver and labs. And toolserver db sucks:

willow: 31m5.157s (user 0m4.038s)
labs: 0m4.271s (user 2.488)

Toolserver was *436 times slower*.

Surely, the labs server is better (in hardware) than the one in TS. I
don't know how many scripts were hitting the TS db, while the labs one
would be almost-idle. Still, it seems a really big gap. Do we have
something wrongly configured? Did mariadb somehow massively improve vs
mysql? Are some parameters too small? Is it just a problem that the
mysql servers are underprovisioned of ram?



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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Hercule Hercule
The addition of console_encoding = 'utf-8' in my user-config.py solved the
issue. Thanks everybody for your help


2013/5/23 Hercule Hercule 

> I added
> export LANG
> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
> in the script, but it still make incorrect comments.
>
> I add enclosed the sh file, if it can help
>
>
> 2013/5/23 Lars Aronsson 
>
>> On 05/23/2013 02:40 PM, Hercule Hercule wrote:
>>
>>> I already tried to add
>>>
>>> export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is
>>> not an identifier
>>> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.
>>>
>>
>> The syntax "export A=B" is from bash, a common login shell.
>> However, most scripts are traditionally written in #!/bin/sh
>> where the syntax requires "export A" and "A=B" to be written
>> as two separate statements.
>>
>> (Knowledge from the 1980s.)
>>
>>
>> --
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>>   Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Hercule Hercule
I added
export LANG
LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
in the script, but it still make incorrect comments.

I add enclosed the sh file, if it can help

2013/5/23 Lars Aronsson 

> On 05/23/2013 02:40 PM, Hercule Hercule wrote:
>
>> I already tried to add
>>
>> export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is
>> not an identifier
>> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.
>>
>
> The syntax "export A=B" is from bash, a common login shell.
> However, most scripts are traditionally written in #!/bin/sh
> where the syntax requires "export A" and "A=B" to be written
> as two separate statements.
>
> (Knowledge from the 1980s.)
>
>
> --
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

2013-05-23 Thread Hersfold Wikipedia
+1. Only two of her emails I can pull up on my phone have been even
potentially constructive; all of the more recent ones are nonsense or
outright spam.


User:Hersfold
hersfoldw...@gmail.com

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Daniel Schwen
Sent: 5/23/2013 10:34
To: Wikimedia Toolserver
Subject: Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie 
At this point it doesn't even matter anymore. None of her posts so far
made any sense or contributed in a meaningful way. Please block.

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jeremy Baron  wrote:
> On May 23, 2013 7:30 AM, "Patricia Pintilie"  wrote:
>> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully. 
>> http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
>
> Hi Patricia,
>
> Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Jeremy
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

2013-05-23 Thread Daniel Schwen
At this point it doesn't even matter anymore. None of her posts so far
made any sense or contributed in a meaningful way. Please block.

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Jeremy Baron  wrote:
> On May 23, 2013 7:30 AM, "Patricia Pintilie"  wrote:
>> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully. 
>> http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
>
> Hi Patricia,
>
> Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Jeremy
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Lars Aronsson

On 05/23/2013 02:40 PM, Hercule Hercule wrote:

I already tried to add

export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is 
not an identifier

LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.


The syntax "export A=B" is from bash, a common login shell.
However, most scripts are traditionally written in #!/bin/sh
where the syntax requires "export A" and "A=B" to be written
as two separate statements.

(Knowledge from the 1980s.)


--
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  Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se



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[Toolserver-l] Patricia Pintilie

2013-05-23 Thread Jeremy Baron
On May 23, 2013 7:30 AM, "Patricia Pintilie"  wrote:
> General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully. 
> http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042

Hi Patricia,

Are you human? Please send me the square root of 16.

Thanks!

-Jeremy

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Re: [Toolserver-l] TS web broken

2013-05-23 Thread Dr. Trigon
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Thanks so much!! ;)

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On 23.05.2013 14:50, Marlen Caemmerer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> the SVN waited for configuration on the new installation and is
> now finished.
> 
> Kind regards Marlen/nosy
> 
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Merlijn van Deen
I just checked what locale returns under SGE, and this is en_US.UTF-8
- so setting locale should not change - so it's not really clear to me
why this error would occur.

In any case, you can try setting

console_encoding = 'utf-8'

in your user-config.py. That should take care of the problem,
irrespective of locale setting.

Merlijn

On 23 May 2013 14:40, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
> I already tried to add
>
> export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is not
> an identifier
> LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.
>
> What I don't understand is that the problem only comes with SGE submit. And
> the command 'locale' in the shell shows en_US.UTF-8 for every property
>
> I will try LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py this evening
>
>
> Le 23 mai 2013 09:16, Merlijn van Deen  a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Hercule,
>>
>> On 23 May 2013 00:38, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
>> > python /home/hercule/template.py "Lien" "Lien/Conversion automatique"
>> > -cat:"Page utilisant Lien pour un article existant" -summary:"[Bot] :
>> > transformation de liens avec le modèle {{Lien}} en lien interne, suite à
>> > la
>> > création de l'article correspondant" -assubst -pt:0 -always
>> > mutt -s "Fin de LienFr" hercule < /home/hercule/logs/LienFr.log
>>
>>
>> If you have saved the file in the utf-8 encoding (which the edit
>> summary suggests), try using (on one line)
>>
>> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>>
>> or (on two lines)
>> export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
>> python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>>
>> Basically, you have to tell pywikipedia which encoding you have used
>> for the shell arguments - in your case UTF-8. Otherwise it will use
>> latin-1 as default, which results in the mojibake you saw.
>>
>> Merlijn
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Re: [Toolserver-l] TS web broken

2013-05-23 Thread Marlen Caemmerer

Hello,

the SVN waited for configuration on the new installation and is now finished.

Kind regards
Marlen/nosy



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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Hercule Hercule
I already tried to add

export LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 but I then have an alert : LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 is not
an identifier
LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 at the top of the shell don't change anything.

What I don't understand is that the problem only comes with SGE submit. And
the command 'locale' in the shell shows en_US.UTF-8 for every property

I will try LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py this evening


Le 23 mai 2013 09:16, Merlijn van Deen  a écrit :

> Hi Hercule,
>
> On 23 May 2013 00:38, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
> > python /home/hercule/template.py "Lien" "Lien/Conversion automatique"
> > -cat:"Page utilisant Lien pour un article existant" -summary:"[Bot] :
> > transformation de liens avec le modèle {{Lien}} en lien interne, suite à
> la
> > création de l'article correspondant" -assubst -pt:0 -always
> > mutt -s "Fin de LienFr" hercule < /home/hercule/logs/LienFr.log
>
>
> If you have saved the file in the utf-8 encoding (which the edit
> summary suggests), try using (on one line)
>
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> or (on two lines)
> export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> Basically, you have to tell pywikipedia which encoding you have used
> for the shell arguments - in your case UTF-8. Otherwise it will use
> latin-1 as default, which results in the mojibake you saw.
>
> Merlijn
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Status of the toolserver

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 20, 2013 5:44 PM, "DaB."  wrote:

> Hello all,
> At Tuesday 21 May 2013 00:42:31 DaB. wrote:
> >   Is SVN supposed to be down still?
>
> yes, there is a minor problem with ngnix I haven’t time to fix yet. Also
> there
> is a harmless error-message about quota at login.
> I will try to fix the SVN-problem tomorrow.
>
> Sincerely,
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Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE fail to run any of my tasks, they error out as "cgroup change of group failed"

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Introducing the new toolserver admin

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 22, 2013 12:50 PM, "Silke Meyer"  wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Let me introduce Alexander Mette, the new toolserver admin who came to
> support DaB. and Nosy! Welcome! As soon as he is a bit more in touch
> with the toolserver, he would like to meet you in an office hour.
> (Will be announced separately.)
> You can reach him via e-mail as alexander.me...@wikimedia.de and on
> IRC as amette.
>
> Cheers,
> Silke
>
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Re: [Toolserver-l] TS web broken

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 23, 2013 2:14 AM, "Dr. Trigon"  wrote:

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> Luckily those externals are important just for 1 script (catimages.py)
> at the moment, so if you checkout the code except those 2 externals,
> you should be fine - don't worry! ;)
>
> In fact I was thinking about doing a svnsync from
>
> https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/drtrigon
>
> to sf.net. DaB, Nosy, ... could you give me a short hint or feadback
> wheather this would be good idea? This is NOT a step to migrate from
> TS to labs, BUT during the last few weeks and months SVN was not THAT
> reliable as I'd like to see (and may be other developers too)... I
> assume this is related to the "ha-nodes"... but that's just a guess.
>
> Thanks and Greetings
> DrTrigon
>
>
> On 23.05.2013 04:34, Hazard-SJ wrote:
> > Yes, and SVN has some externals for Pywikibot (trunk version). It's
> > been down for a while.
> >
> >
> > Hazard-SJ
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> *From:* Johannes Kroll 
> > *To:* Wikimedia Toolserver 
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:49 AM *Subject:* Re:
> > [Toolserver-l] TS web broken
> >
> > On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:13:10 +0200 (CEST) Marlen Caemmerer
> >  > > wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> fortunatelly I was able to fix web very quick. With thanks to DaB
> >> and
> > Merlissimo we just got SGE back too and it seems everything is
> > running as before.
> >>
> >> Cheers Marlen/nosy
> >
> > What about http://svn.toolserver.org/?
> > 
> >
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Patricia Pintilie
General chat • Re: Navigating Multiboot GRUB2 menu entries successfully.
http://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?t=2195&p=15042#p15042
On May 23, 2013 3:12 AM, "Merlijn van Deen"  wrote:

> Hi Hercule,
>
> On 23 May 2013 00:38, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
> > python /home/hercule/template.py "Lien" "Lien/Conversion automatique"
> > -cat:"Page utilisant Lien pour un article existant" -summary:"[Bot] :
> > transformation de liens avec le modèle {{Lien}} en lien interne, suite à
> la
> > création de l'article correspondant" -assubst -pt:0 -always
> > mutt -s "Fin de LienFr" hercule < /home/hercule/logs/LienFr.log
>
>
> If you have saved the file in the utf-8 encoding (which the edit
> summary suggests), try using (on one line)
>
> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> or (on two lines)
> export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
> python /home/hercule/template.py ...
>
> Basically, you have to tell pywikipedia which encoding you have used
> for the shell arguments - in your case UTF-8. Otherwise it will use
> latin-1 as default, which results in the mojibake you saw.
>
> Merlijn
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Re: [Toolserver-l] Encoding issue using SGE

2013-05-23 Thread Merlijn van Deen
Hi Hercule,

On 23 May 2013 00:38, Hercule Hercule  wrote:
> python /home/hercule/template.py "Lien" "Lien/Conversion automatique"
> -cat:"Page utilisant Lien pour un article existant" -summary:"[Bot] :
> transformation de liens avec le modèle {{Lien}} en lien interne, suite à la
> création de l'article correspondant" -assubst -pt:0 -always
> mutt -s "Fin de LienFr" hercule < /home/hercule/logs/LienFr.log


If you have saved the file in the utf-8 encoding (which the edit
summary suggests), try using (on one line)

LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 python /home/hercule/template.py ...

or (on two lines)
export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
python /home/hercule/template.py ...

Basically, you have to tell pywikipedia which encoding you have used
for the shell arguments - in your case UTF-8. Otherwise it will use
latin-1 as default, which results in the mojibake you saw.

Merlijn

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Re: [Toolserver-l] TS web broken

2013-05-23 Thread Dr. Trigon
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Luckily those externals are important just for 1 script (catimages.py)
at the moment, so if you checkout the code except those 2 externals,
you should be fine - don't worry! ;)

In fact I was thinking about doing a svnsync from

https://svn.toolserver.org/svnroot/drtrigon

to sf.net. DaB, Nosy, ... could you give me a short hint or feadback
wheather this would be good idea? This is NOT a step to migrate from
TS to labs, BUT during the last few weeks and months SVN was not THAT
reliable as I'd like to see (and may be other developers too)... I
assume this is related to the "ha-nodes"... but that's just a guess.

Thanks and Greetings
DrTrigon


On 23.05.2013 04:34, Hazard-SJ wrote:
> Yes, and SVN has some externals for Pywikibot (trunk version). It's
> been down for a while.
> 
> 
> Hazard-SJ
> 
> 
>
> 
*From:* Johannes Kroll 
> *To:* Wikimedia Toolserver  
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:49 AM *Subject:* Re:
> [Toolserver-l] TS web broken
> 
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 22:13:10 +0200 (CEST) Marlen Caemmerer
>  > wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> fortunatelly I was able to fix web very quick. With thanks to DaB
>> and
> Merlissimo we just got SGE back too and it seems everything is
> running as before.
>> 
>> Cheers Marlen/nosy
> 
> What about http://svn.toolserver.org/?
> 
> 
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