Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi Tim,

Am 25.12.2013 23:14, schrieb Tim Landscheidt:
> What would be interesting is a mail forwarder for the exist-
> ing toolserver.org addresses as a) WMF may be hesitant to
> provide this and b) mails with the senders' assumption on
> them being forwarded in Amsterdam instead being relayed in
> the US could be the source for endless drama.

should be no problem. WMCH is providing this service for its members
anyway already, so it would be just a one-time setup effort, something I
could easily do.

The mail addresses @toolserver.org are all just simple forwarders?


/Manuel
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Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Manuel Schneider  wrote:

> [...]

>> This is what we planned and why amette implemented the htaccess variant.
>> You can put it into your home and even if you remove all your stuff with
>> burnbridges the htaccess file will stay there if it has a labs url in it.
>> WMF can get the files and the domain and host the redirects.

> We may either keep one simple webserver running and point the old domain
> there in order to maintain redirects of the old URLs to the new scripts.
> We could also move this late to another server, eg. of Wikimedia CH
> which I could provide, so we can decomission the toolserver completely
> and save costs and management time while still maintain the redirects.

I'm currently working on puppetizing tools-webproxy and the
redirect server is just a few extra lines of configuration.
So no servers outside of Labs are needed.

What would be interesting is a mail forwarder for the exist-
ing toolserver.org addresses as a) WMF may be hesitant to
provide this and b) mails with the senders' assumption on
them being forwarded in Amsterdam instead being relayed in
the US could be the source for endless drama.

Tim


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Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 12/25/2013 04:57 PM, Manuel Schneider wrote:
> We may either keep one simple webserver running and point the old domain
> there in order to maintain redirects of the old URLs to the new scripts.
> We could also move this late to another server, eg. of Wikimedia CH
> which I could provide, so we can decomission the toolserver completely
> and save costs and management time while still maintain the redirects.

Either way, the WMF with collaborate with whatever is decided in the end.

-- Marc


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Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Manuel Schneider
Hi,

Am 25.12.2013 22:45, schrieb Marlen Caemmerer:

> On Wed, 25 Dec 2013, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:

>> Last I heard, the plan is to decommission and donate all the hardware.
>>
>> If WMDE wants, the Foundation can take the domain and keep the redirects
>> up indefinitely so that old links remain valid.

as the domain registrar I may add that this has already been discussed
with me. We are prepared to transfer the domain if needed. But there are
also alternatives:

> This is what we planned and why amette implemented the htaccess variant.
> You can put it into your home and even if you remove all your stuff with
> burnbridges the htaccess file will stay there if it has a labs url in it.
> WMF can get the files and the domain and host the redirects.

We may either keep one simple webserver running and point the old domain
there in order to maintain redirects of the old URLs to the new scripts.
We could also move this late to another server, eg. of Wikimedia CH
which I could provide, so we can decomission the toolserver completely
and save costs and management time while still maintain the redirects.

/Manuel
-- 
Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
Lausanne, +41 (21) 34066-22 - www.wikimedia.ch

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Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Marlen Caemmerer

Hello,


On Wed, 25 Dec 2013, Marc A. Pelletier wrote:


I'm not sure if ALL servers are going to be removed or a basic Apache is
going to run in the domain the next years.


Last I heard, the plan is to decommission and donate all the hardware.

If WMDE wants, the Foundation can take the domain and keep the redirects
up indefinitely so that old links remain valid.


This is what we planned and why amette implemented the htaccess variant.
You can put it into your home and even if you remove all your stuff with 
burnbridges the htaccess file will stay there if it has a labs url in it.
WMF can get the files and the domain and host the redirects.

Cheers
Marlen/nosy

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Re: [Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Marc A. Pelletier
On 12/25/2013 03:05 PM, Emilio J. Rodríguez-Posada wrote:
> I'm not sure if ALL servers are going to be removed or a basic Apache is
> going to run in the domain the next years.

Last I heard, the plan is to decommission and donate all the hardware.

If WMDE wants, the Foundation can take the domain and keep the redirects
up indefinitely so that old links remain valid.

-- Marc


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[Toolserver-l] What will happen with the Toolserver domain?

2013-12-25 Thread Emilio J . Rodríguez-Posada
Hi all;

I'm not sure if this has been discussed anywhere but, what will happen with
the Toolserver domain?

I'm not sure if ALL servers are going to be removed or a basic Apache is
going to run in the domain the next years.

Perhaps we can mantain a basic site, with the wiki, and a little museum?

Regards,
emijrp
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