Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Hi again, Indeed. Assuming WMDE isn't planning on not having any web servers, their existing web server for wikimedia.de can keep redirecting tools.wikimedia.de to toolserver.org. No changes necessary. So okay, not making any change to the DNS entry is completely okay for me. WMF ops then have to decide about the SSL certificate question. If WMDE really wants to remove them, they could point that subdomain to WMF servers and have WMF do the redirect and simply don't provide an SSL certificate. E.g. WMF would use a self-signed certificate or an invalid one like the one for wikipedia.org, WMF does this all the time for old or unused domains: wikipedia.com * https://www.wikipedia.com/ wikimediacommons.org * https://wikimediacommons.org/ And if we really really want, one could purchase a separate certificate for just tools.wikimedia.org (so that the wildcard one isn't needed) and transfer only that to WMF. For me, it is important that I don't have to deal with that domain any longer. Simply keeping the CNAME causes on work at all. If you at WMF want to handle the certificate question in the future, you can go ahead. At the Hackathon, I understood that Coren is no fan of such a solution though. Best, Silke -- Silke Meyer Internes IT-Management und Projektmanagement Toolserver Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 260 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] Burnbridges question
Hi Russell, sorry for the late answer. On 13/05/14 19:47, Russell Blau wrote: I wanted to clear out the files of an MMP (named dpl), so I used become to switch to the project's account, then ran burnbridges. For cleaning out an MMP there are a different set of tools that are named with an appended -mmp. So to take action on an MMP, do not use 'become', just stay your normal user and run byebye-mmp and burnbridges-mmp MMP Name to build your data package and after downloading it delete the data and expiring your account. This generated a nice, red message saying You do not have an .htaccess with Redirects to wmflabs.org !!! Glad you liked it! ;) So, I checked: dpl@nightshade:~$ cat public_html/.htaccess Redirect permanent /~dpl http://tools.wmflabs.org/dplbot Should I just ignore the message and complete burnbridges anyway? The scripts should now fail, if you run them as the wrong user. Could you test please? cheers amette ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Hi all, On 20/05/14 13:27, Silke Meyer wrote: Hi again, Indeed. Assuming WMDE isn't planning on not having any web servers, their existing web server for wikimedia.de can keep redirecting tools.wikimedia.de to toolserver.org. No changes necessary. So okay, not making any change to the DNS entry is completely okay for me. WMF ops then have to decide about the SSL certificate question. keeping the domain a CNAME just as is and considering it a deprecated one at the WMF end makes the most sense to me. This way it is just a legacy entry on WMDE side that never has to be touched again except for eventual deletion. And on WMF side it will receive an invalid certificate. So tools will not fail, but give a cert warning which should hopefully trigger fixing URLs at the maintainers' at some point in time. Also this solution does not need any special coordination of certificates, A or MX-records and whatnot. 2cents amette If WMDE really wants to remove them, they could point that subdomain to WMF servers and have WMF do the redirect and simply don't provide an SSL certificate. E.g. WMF would use a self-signed certificate or an invalid one like the one for wikipedia.org, WMF does this all the time for old or unused domains: wikipedia.com * https://www.wikipedia.com/ wikimediacommons.org * https://wikimediacommons.org/ And if we really really want, one could purchase a separate certificate for just tools.wikimedia.org (so that the wildcard one isn't needed) and transfer only that to WMF. For me, it is important that I don't have to deal with that domain any longer. Simply keeping the CNAME causes on work at all. If you at WMF want to handle the certificate question in the future, you can go ahead. At the Hackathon, I understood that Coren is no fan of such a solution though. Best, Silke -- -- https://amette.eu m...@amette.eu ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
Re: [Toolserver-l] [Labs-l] DEPRECATED: tools.wikimedia.de - Get rid of it!
Silke Meyer silke.me...@wikimedia.de wrote: [...] For me, it is important that I don't have to deal with that domain any longer. Simply keeping the CNAME causes on work at all. If you at WMF want to handle the certificate question in the future, you can go ahead. At the Hackathon, I understood that Coren is no fan of such a solution though. I think Merlijn and Platonides are just proposing to replace the CNAME with a virtual host tools.wikimedia.de on the web- server that currently handles wikimedia.de, blog.wikimedia.de, forum.wikimedia.de and www.wikimedia.de that just does a HTTP redirect to toolserver.org (which then gets handled by WMF), and that should be *very* close to no work at all :-). But there would only be a difference in HTTPS compared to the CNAME solution, and as Merlijn pointed out that tools.wikimedia.de predates HTTPS on Toolserver, I'm fine with keeping the CNAME (or pointing it to the new webserver) as well. Tim ___ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
