Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE can now be used for *all* tools

2010-11-15 Thread River Tarnell
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Sorry for the flood of announcements about SGE today.  I think this should be 
the last one.

> This policy has now changed, and SGE can be used for all jobs, including 
> long-running jobs.  This effectively obsoletes Phoenix and similar tools, 
> since 
> SGE with cronsub provides the same functionality.

To make this work better, there is now a 'longrun' queue that should be used 
instead of the default 'all.q' for long-running jobs:

 % qsub -q longrun -N myjob myjob.sh
or:
 % cronsub -l myjob myjob.sh

- river.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE can now be used for *all* tools

2010-11-15 Thread River Tarnell
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Alex Brollo:
> Thanks. A question. I'm a new toolserver user, presently working at a long
> list of personal "Hello world" tests. Next scheduled "Hello world"  was cron
> test. Is your suggestion to step over cron, and to try to learn SGE from the
> beginning?

If you're new to Unix, I would suggesting learning cron first, then adding SGE 
later.  You'll need to use cron to run your SGE jobs anyway.

Converting an existing cron job to SGE is quite simple:
  

- river.
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Re: [Toolserver-l] SGE can now be used for *all* tools

2010-11-15 Thread Alex Brollo
2010/11/16 River Tarnell 

>
> This policy has now changed, and SGE can be used for all jobs, including
> long-running jobs.  This effectively obsoletes Phoenix and similar tools,
> since
> SGE with cronsub provides the same functionality.
>

Thanks. A question. I'm a new toolserver user, presently working at a long
list of personal "Hello world" tests. Next scheduled "Hello world"  was cron
test. Is your suggestion to step over cron, and to try to learn SGE from the
beginning?

Alex brollo
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[Toolserver-l] SGE can now be used for *all* tools

2010-11-15 Thread River Tarnell
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Hi,

In the past, our policy on SGE (batch job scheduling) was that it should only 
be used for jobs which run once then exit, and that it should not be used for 
jobs which run continuously.

This policy has now changed, and SGE can be used for all jobs, including 
long-running jobs.  This effectively obsoletes Phoenix and similar tools, since 
SGE with cronsub provides the same functionality.

Because SGE makes it easier for us to scale the Toolserver cluster, as well as 
making your tools run more efficiently (and therefore quicker), we recommend 
that all tools be converted to SGE where possible.  The wiki page now has a 
quick-start section explaining how to do this:

  

(While SGE has a lot of features and can be complicated, we've tried to make it 
easy to use for the typical cases; if something is not clear, please let us 
know.)

- river.
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