Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-28 Thread Platonides
Bryan Tong Minh wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Platonides  wrote:
>>
>> Also, as discussed with Ariel, I will gladly mirror such dumps at wm-es
>> web space.
>>
> You do have a toolserver account right? I think it would be a good
> idea if you could copy the dumps from the TS to your web space.

I don't. But I can request one if needed.

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Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-27 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 6:43 PM, Platonides  wrote:
>
> Also, as discussed with Ariel, I will gladly mirror such dumps at wm-es
> web space.
>
You do have a toolserver account right? I think it would be a good
idea if you could copy the dumps from the TS to your web space.

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Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-26 Thread River Tarnell
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(Removing wikitech-l cc since I'm not subscribed there.)

Platonides:
> Roan Kattouw wrote:
> > 2010/11/26 Bryan Tong Minh :
> >> Somehow I think that publishing an entire dump violates the "do not
> >> publish significant parts of an article" rule.

> > Surely the toolserver admins could be asked to consider waiving that
> > in this case considering the public nature of the dumps and the
> > downtime situation with download.wm.o
 
> It's not that toolserver admins are excentric adding such rule, but an
> issue of WM-DE liability if such information is published.

This is correct -- the rule applies to any article text, even articles already 
available on Wikimedia foundation-run websites.  (Otherwise, there would be no 
point having the rule at all, since *all* text on the Toolserver is also 
available on the site itself.)

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Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-26 Thread Михајло Анђелковић
Oh, but I was reading that page from the beginnig. It still doesn't
give any predictions of time point when it will work again.

M

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Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-26 Thread Platonides
Михајло Анђелковић wrote:
> I do not see the dump of srwiki in the given directory. Is there any
> clue when they might be available again on dumps.wikimedia.org?
> 
> M

You can follow the story here:
http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Dataset1#11-10-2010_-_New_errors

This was expected to be fixed already, but the process of fixing the
server is struck at one point after another.

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Re: [Toolserver-l] alternative way to get wikipedia dump while server is down

2010-11-26 Thread Platonides
Roan Kattouw wrote:
> 2010/11/26 Bryan Tong Minh :
>> Somehow I think that publishing an entire dump violates the "do not
>> publish significant parts of an article" rule.
>>
> Surely the toolserver admins could be asked to consider waiving that
> in this case considering the public nature of the dumps and the
> downtime situation with download.wm.o
> 
> Roan Kattouw (Catrope)

It's not that toolserver admins are excentric adding such rule, but an
issue of WM-DE liability if such information is published.

However, I think that providing such file to just a few selected people
would  be acceptable.

Also, as discussed with Ariel, I will gladly mirror such dumps at wm-es
web space.

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