Topband: Pennant Feed & Termination Product question

2012-01-04 Thread Steven Raas
I was wondering if any one has had personal experience with this product:
http://www.minstech.com/hamradio.php?pid=21

Comments?

Its a Feed & Resistor kit for a Pennant/Flag antenna.. this specific one is
for 50 ohm cable.
(I just happen to have alot of 50 ohm on hand that is very well shielded)

-Steve Raas
N2JDQ
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Re: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power

2012-01-04 Thread David Raymond
I have been involved with beta testing for the Hi-Z 4 and Hi-Z 8 arrays. 
The testing involved two different sites with Hi-Z 4,  Hi-Z 8 (160 version), 
and Hi-Z 8 (80) arrays.  The majority of my testing involved performance 
evaluation with very low signal levels in a very low noise environment. 
Testing involved the standard antenna amps as well as the new Plus6 amps 
(the Plus6 performance is quite good).  Coincidentally I have found the Hi-Z 
systems to be robust with regard to avoiding damage due to reasonably high 
RF exposure (from TX antennas) as well as not passing through excessive RF 
to the rig receive port when under those conditions.

73. . .Dave
W0FLS
- Original Message - 
From: "Hardy Landskov" 
To: "Ignacy Misztal" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power


> Ignacy,
> I have a K7TJR 4 square. In fact I was one of the beta testers way back 
> and
> I have measured +15 dBm using an HP 435A power meter on the 4 square when
> transmitting 1500 watts on my Delta Loop which is 160 feet away. The 
> receive
> patterns are very distorted according to EZNEC when I put all the towers 
> and
> antennas in the file BUT it still works great and I have not had any rx 
> amp
> failures. I was surprised but the Hi-Z amps are very bullet proof.
> 73 & HNY Hardy N7RT
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ignacy Misztal" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:47 PM
> Subject: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power
>
>
>>I was planning to buy a 4 sq receive system for the upcoming CQ160 
>>contest.
>> One question is about handling of high power when the 4sq cannot be put
>> far
>> away from the tx antenna. HI-Z claims that their system is immune to high
>> power. DX Engineering claims the opposite and requires a sequencer. The
>> sequencer adds complexity and cost.
>>
>> Did anyone experience a damaged amp in those systems? Would clamping the
>> input of a vertical with 2 back to back diodes be acceptable?
>>
>> On a different note, the Hi-Z site states new legal problems and no 
>> sales.
>> There 4 sq was about $770 with new amps. However, DX Enginnering has an
>> "electrical only" option to HI-Z for $799 that appears equivalent to 
>> Hi-Z.
>> However it is sold out. So neither is available. Not sure there is 
>> another
>> viable option.
>>
>> Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power

2012-01-04 Thread W0UCE
My Hi-Z Three Element Array North Antenna is not more than 40 feet from
where my Inverted L Horizontal runs - the INVL Vertical is maybe 60 feet 
away.  I have run 1500w an not a problem at all. 

I had a DXE 4 Square at my for QTH and it had to be 700 feet away from my
closest TX Antenna - The Hi-Z is a great RX antenna system. 



-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Hardy Landskov
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:14 PM
To: Ignacy Misztal; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power

Ignacy,
I have a K7TJR 4 square. In fact I was one of the beta testers way back and 
I have measured +15 dBm using an HP 435A power meter on the 4 square when 
transmitting 1500 watts on my Delta Loop which is 160 feet away. The receive

patterns are very distorted according to EZNEC when I put all the towers and

antennas in the file BUT it still works great and I have not had any rx amp 
failures. I was surprised but the Hi-Z amps are very bullet proof.
73 & HNY Hardy N7RT


- Original Message - 
From: "Ignacy Misztal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power


>I was planning to buy a 4 sq receive system for the upcoming CQ160 contest.
> One question is about handling of high power when the 4sq cannot be put 
> far
> away from the tx antenna. HI-Z claims that their system is immune to high
> power. DX Engineering claims the opposite and requires a sequencer. The
> sequencer adds complexity and cost.
>
> Did anyone experience a damaged amp in those systems? Would clamping the
> input of a vertical with 2 back to back diodes be acceptable?
>
> On a different note, the Hi-Z site states new legal problems and no sales.
> There 4 sq was about $770 with new amps. However, DX Enginnering has an
> "electrical only" option to HI-Z for $799 that appears equivalent to Hi-Z.
> However it is sold out. So neither is available. Not sure there is another
> viable option.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power

2012-01-04 Thread Hardy Landskov
Ignacy,
I have a K7TJR 4 square. In fact I was one of the beta testers way back and 
I have measured +15 dBm using an HP 435A power meter on the 4 square when 
transmitting 1500 watts on my Delta Loop which is 160 feet away. The receive 
patterns are very distorted according to EZNEC when I put all the towers and 
antennas in the file BUT it still works great and I have not had any rx amp 
failures. I was surprised but the Hi-Z amps are very bullet proof.
73 & HNY Hardy N7RT


- Original Message - 
From: "Ignacy Misztal" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 6:47 PM
Subject: Topband: 4 sq receive and high power


>I was planning to buy a 4 sq receive system for the upcoming CQ160 contest.
> One question is about handling of high power when the 4sq cannot be put 
> far
> away from the tx antenna. HI-Z claims that their system is immune to high
> power. DX Engineering claims the opposite and requires a sequencer. The
> sequencer adds complexity and cost.
>
> Did anyone experience a damaged amp in those systems? Would clamping the
> input of a vertical with 2 back to back diodes be acceptable?
>
> On a different note, the Hi-Z site states new legal problems and no sales.
> There 4 sq was about $770 with new amps. However, DX Enginnering has an
> "electrical only" option to HI-Z for $799 that appears equivalent to Hi-Z.
> However it is sold out. So neither is available. Not sure there is another
> viable option.
>
> Ignacy, NO9E
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Topband: 4 sq receive and high power

2012-01-04 Thread Ignacy Misztal
I was planning to buy a 4 sq receive system for the upcoming CQ160 contest.
One question is about handling of high power when the 4sq cannot be put far
away from the tx antenna. HI-Z claims that their system is immune to high
power. DX Engineering claims the opposite and requires a sequencer. The
sequencer adds complexity and cost.

Did anyone experience a damaged amp in those systems? Would clamping the
input of a vertical with 2 back to back diodes be acceptable?

On a different note, the Hi-Z site states new legal problems and no sales.
There 4 sq was about $770 with new amps. However, DX Enginnering has an
"electrical only" option to HI-Z for $799 that appears equivalent to Hi-Z.
However it is sold out. So neither is available. Not sure there is another
viable option.

Ignacy, NO9E
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Re: Topband: TL0CW QSL's

2012-01-04 Thread donhall161
Frank,

Not me. You asked the question I was considering.

73  Don  K5AQ
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Re: Topband: TL0CW QSL's

2012-01-04 Thread Don Greenbaum
not here yet.

Don
N1DG

At 05:58 PM 1/4/2012, Frank Davis wrote:
>Has anyone rec'd QSL's yet for Topband?
>
>Frank VO1HP
>
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Topband: TL0CW QSL's

2012-01-04 Thread Frank Davis
Has anyone rec'd QSL's yet for Topband?

Frank VO1HP

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Re: Topband: Xtal Filter +1

2012-01-04 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:06 -0800, Rick Karlquist wrote:
> Bill Cromwell wrote:
> 
> > meters). One of the problems with high levels of electrical noise is
> > overloading of the front end and blocking of the receiver. Therefore
> > noise that is not actually on or very nearly on your operating frequency
> > jams you up. I am also investigating some of the loop antennas to use
> 
> I don't see how noise overload of the receiver front end can
> be an issue.  You can simply add front end attenuation such
> that the external noise just overcomes the receiver's internal
> noise.  It would only be an issue if somehow there was much more
> noise just outside the 160 meter ham band than there was inside
> the 160 meter ham band.  How would that ever happen?

Hi,

I don't think the front end xtal filters are a bulletproof fix, either.
They might contribute to a solution.

Come to my shack when the guy over in the body shop starts up his
welder. He isn't in the 160 meter band but his hash is strong enough to
tip over my superhets with rf amps and active mixers. I can just tell he
is welding with the Atlas. There is also a paging transmitter line of
sight and I sometimes get a strong dose of RF from that. The ricebox
won't tolerate that. The other radios don't seem to notice. There are
other assorted large doses of electronic crud that come and go here. I
used to live in the boonies, too. No problems there..just like you. I
used to ask the same. How could that be possible. It's possible. I
guarantee it. I wonder why they call it civilized.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: Xtal Filter

2012-01-04 Thread Tim Duffy K3LR
Sherwood hasn't sold that FE 1825 - 1830 filter in years.

That is why I suggested the INRAD filter which is 5 KHz wide centered on
1822.5 KHz. INRAD #807

http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=231&cat=146&page=1

73,
Tim K3LR

-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Craig Clark
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 12:46 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Xtal Filter


Tim and others,

What about the filter Sherwood sold for the "old" DX window 1825-1830??

Craig

Craig Clark K1QX
Radioware
PO Box 209
107 Fitzgerald Rd
Rindge NH 03461
(603) 899-6957




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Topband: Xtal Filter

2012-01-04 Thread Craig Clark

Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:38:35 +0800 (SGT)
From: Anton Moehammad 
Subject: Topband: Xtal Filter
To: "topband@contesting.com" 
Message-ID:
<1325641115.89785.yahoomail...@web190006.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi everybody,

 I believe there is a 1825 KHZ xtal filter sell somewhere, can any body
share their experience about put a narrow XTAL filter in front of their recv
? (CW works only)


?
Ir Moeh AntonHendra
Jambon Tengah no 290 RT1/RW3
Magelang 56121
Indonesia
Mobile : +6285292611160
email?? : moehan...@yahoo.com
Get a signature like this.  CLICK HERE.  ? 


Tim and others,

What about the filter Sherwood sold for the "old" DX window 1825-1830??

Craig

Craig Clark K1QX
Radioware
PO Box 209
107 Fitzgerald Rd
Rindge NH 03461
(603) 899-6957




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Re: Topband: Xtal Filter +1

2012-01-04 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bill Cromwell wrote:

> meters). One of the problems with high levels of electrical noise is
> overloading of the front end and blocking of the receiver. Therefore
> noise that is not actually on or very nearly on your operating frequency
> jams you up. I am also investigating some of the loop antennas to use

I don't see how noise overload of the receiver front end can
be an issue.  You can simply add front end attenuation such
that the external noise just overcomes the receiver's internal
noise.  It would only be an issue if somehow there was much more
noise just outside the 160 meter ham band than there was inside
the 160 meter ham band.  How would that ever happen?

> along with the high level mixers (NO rf amp and none needed on 160
> through 20 meters). That Xtal filter used ahead of such a receiver and
> possibly with one of those antennas that can null out some (or all) of
> the noise should get Anton happily on the air.
>

The loop I described in the National Contest Journal is fairly
sensitive and certainly doesn't require an external RF amp.
It may or may not need to have the transceiver's internal RF amp
enabled.  If you build the 40 foot circumference version, you get
about another 9 dB of signal output.

There seems to be a notion here that xtal filters are somehow
a bulletproof front end fix.  However, the third order intercept
of the filters is not necessarily all that high.  Although
they are "passive", that doesn't mean they are linear when
driven hard.  This topic was covered extensively in "Technical
Topics" in RSGB Radio Communication (I don't have specific
citations).  The reason why crystals are non linear is that the
extremely high Q results in tremendous acceleration effects on
the quartz even for 1 mW drive.  It is not unusual to see
hundreds of thousands of G's of acceleration.

Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: Additional 160 & 80m FCP and BOG Antenna files now available

2012-01-04 Thread Steven Raas
Jack,

I may have missed it when i read the new information, does the 80m FCP also
need 8' Vertical space abt ground like the 160m Version?

-Steve
N2JDQ

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Bill Cromwell  wrote:

> On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:34 -0500, W0UCE wrote:
> > My K2AV Low Band Antenna Page has been updated with the following
> > information:
> >
> >
> >
> > 1.  160m FCP performance data
> >
> > 2.  80m FCP and Isolation Transformer information
> >
> > 3.  Dual FCP (80 & 160) FCPs and Isolation Transformers
> >
> > 4.  EZNEC File for 2 Wire BOG RX Antennas
> >
> >
> >
> > Visit:  http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jack
> >
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>
> Hi Jack,
>
> I just made some comments in a thread regarding multi band operation
> with the FCP.  Thanks for the updated information. I am going to make a
> wild guess that I can add an FCP for 40 and perhaps 30 meters as well. I
> prefer to operate even when power is not available so I won't be using
> relays in my system. I don't mind going out the back door for a minute
> even in winter to change bands. I've done that before and I'm still
> young enough to manhandle my walker out there . We are
> into winter weather and snow drifts now so it's an ideal time to put up
> one of these and invoke Murphy's Antenna Corollary for the inverse
> relationship between install weather and performance.
>
> 73,
>
> Bill  KU8H
>
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Re: Topband: Additional 160 & 80m FCP and BOG Antenna files now available

2012-01-04 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:34 -0500, W0UCE wrote:
> My K2AV Low Band Antenna Page has been updated with the following
> information:
> 
>  
> 
> 1.  160m FCP performance data
> 
> 2.  80m FCP and Isolation Transformer information
> 
> 3.  Dual FCP (80 & 160) FCPs and Isolation Transformers
> 
> 4.  EZNEC File for 2 Wire BOG RX Antennas 
> 
>  
> 
> Visit:  http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html
> 
>  
> 
> 73,
> 
> Jack
> 
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Hi Jack,

I just made some comments in a thread regarding multi band operation
with the FCP.  Thanks for the updated information. I am going to make a
wild guess that I can add an FCP for 40 and perhaps 30 meters as well. I
prefer to operate even when power is not available so I won't be using
relays in my system. I don't mind going out the back door for a minute
even in winter to change bands. I've done that before and I'm still
young enough to manhandle my walker out there . We are
into winter weather and snow drifts now so it's an ideal time to put up
one of these and invoke Murphy's Antenna Corollary for the inverse
relationship between install weather and performance.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Topband: Additional 160 & 80m FCP and BOG Antenna files now available

2012-01-04 Thread W0UCE
My K2AV Low Band Antenna Page has been updated with the following
information:

 

1.  160m FCP performance data

2.  80m FCP and Isolation Transformer information

3.  Dual FCP (80 & 160) FCPs and Isolation Transformers

4.  EZNEC File for 2 Wire BOG RX Antennas 

 

Visit:  http://www.w0uce.net/K2AVantennas.html

 

73,

Jack

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Re: Topband: Xtal Filter

2012-01-04 Thread Jim F.
The Rockmite QRPp transceiver kit by Small Wonder Labs is crystal controlled on 
a single frequency and uses a single crystal ahead of the receiver for 
filtering. 

Many thousands have been sold and are on the air and there is also a  Rockmite 
Yahoo
group.   Google Rockmite.
 
 
jim / W1FMR
 
 

--- On Tue, 1/3/12, Tim Duffy K3LR  wrote:


From: Tim Duffy K3LR 
Subject: Re: Topband: Xtal Filter
To: "'Anton Moehammad'" , topband@contesting.com
Date: Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 9:16 PM


Hello Anton!

Here is a link to a 5 KHz 160 meter RX filter y INRAD. This may be what you are 
asking about?

http://www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=231&cat=146&page=1

73 and Happy New Year,
Tim K3LR

-Original Message-
From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On 
Behalf Of Anton Moehammad
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 7:39 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Xtal Filter

Hi everybody,

I believe there is a 1825 KHZ xtal filter sell somewhere, can any body share 
their experience about put a narrow XTAL filter in front of their recv ? (CW 
works only)



Ir Moeh AntonHendra
Jambon Tengah no 290 RT1/RW3
Magelang 56121
Indonesia
Mobile : +6285292611160
email   : moehan...@yahoo.com
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Re: Topband: CONNECTORS AND CABLE

2012-01-04 Thread ZR
Loss at 160 is determined by the thickness of the copper plating and even 
the best will have a bit more loss than all copper. An additional 1dB/100' 
of resistive loss in a 200-300' run means nothing and with a well 
constructed Beverage wont even require a preamp. Its the loss from water 
into the foam and aluminum that you dont want.

These days Im running 50-300' of RG-6 to the switch boxes and 700' of 1/2" 
CATV hardline back to the house. The RG-6 is elevated thru bushes and low 
branches as rodent prevention and the hardline has been on the ground about 
22 years.
With good grounds and plenty of ferrite there is no detectable common mode 
radiation.

Carl
KM1H


- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Renwick" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: CONNECTORS AND CABLE


> Here we go again.  One camp saying don't go cheap and another camp saying
> cheap is fine.  I pay 5 cents a foot for flooded RG-6 from Shaw Cable.
> Copper coated steel center plus braid and foil.  My receive 4 square run 
> is
> about 700 feet.  I can hear more than I can work.  I don't need expensive
> RG-6 for rodents to chew on.  The rodents enjoy the cheap cable.  Cheap in
> price but just maybe not cheap in quality.  YMMV.
>
> Doug
>
>>-Original Message-
>>
>>On 1/3/2012 7:06 AM, Andrey Fedorishchev wrote:
>>> Cheap RG6, the one with CCS center conductor, sometimes shows quiet high
>>> losses (few db per 300ft.) at 1-5 mhz and at the same time quiet low at
>>> higher frequencies;
>>>
>>> Not only the losses but signal leakage is important and not every brand
> of
>>> RG213 or RG6 is suitable at some instalations;
>>
>>Yes on both counts. I've written a Q&A style tutorial about coax that
>>addresses these issues, and a lot more.
>>http://audiosystemsgroup.com/Coax-Stubs.pdf
>>
>>Another point -- some of us DO have long runs to our antennas, so losses
>>can be significant. I have two runs to TX antennas that are 350 ft and
>>two for 160M that are 280 ft.  My neighbor, K6XX, has some runs that are
>>nearly 1,000 ft, for which he's using parallel runs of hard line.
>>
>>73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: CONNECTORS AND CABLE

2012-01-04 Thread ZR

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Brown" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: CONNECTORS AND CABLE


> On 1/3/2012 11:48 AM, Doug Renwick wrote:
>> One camp saying don't go cheap and another camp saying
>> cheap is fine.  I pay 5 cents a foot for flooded RG-6 from Shaw Cable.
>> Copper coated steel center plus braid and foil.  My receive 4 square run 
>> is
>> about 700 feet.  I can hear more than I can work.  I don't need expensive
>> RG-6 for rodents to chew on.  The rodents enjoy the cheap cable.  Cheap 
>> in
>> price but just maybe not cheap in quality.
>
> Loss doesn't matter for RX antennas, but shielding does.  DXE says that
> the flooded Commscope RG6 they sell resists rodents. Commscope is a good
> cable company. I laid  two runs of a non-flooded Commscope RG6 (on the
> order of 300-400 ft) on the ground almost five years ago to feed my
> Beverages, and so far no obvious problems.  And we DO have rodents -- 
> rats, squirrels, and gophers that I know of. Because it has a steel
> center and fairly light braid, I wouldn't use it for TX on the lower
> bands, for reasons noted in the tutorial.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

Commscope cable is no more rodent proof than any other quality brand. If DXE 
charges more for it then its not worth it economically.

I also use Commscope but I buy in 1000' reels via my Tessco commercial 
acount or from a local CATV installer.

Rodent problems in CA are likely a lot different than here in NH and many 
other places. When the temperatures get well below freezing mice find coax 
something to at least taste and then leave alone but the damage is done. 
When everything else is frozen solid the cable riding on top of or thru the 
leaves are pure temptation.

I had "something" chew a length of #10 stranded completely thru in 4 places 
and partially in several more in about a 100' stretch of a 500' BOG late 
last winter; nothing else was touched but that territorial hunk!!  I dont 
like splicing when its below freezing!

Carl
KM1H



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Topband: Toward better antennas

2012-01-04 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi,

My initial effort at getting "something...anything" up for an antenna
has produced mediocre results - as expected. Maybe a little more
mediocre than I was hoping for. I can hear with it pretty well. It's
just a big, end fed wire too close to the ground... about 20 feet up
with a counterpoise wire. I can probably do some trimming and tuning to
get some modest improvements. My plan though is to use it as-is on
160-80-40-30 while I put up something better.

On my small lot I can accommodate a K9AY loop antenna system. There may
be differing opinions (supported by hard numbers) about better antennas
but there are NO beverages nor *large* antennas in my future. One of the
first things I noticed is the K9AY loop is a receiving antenna (that
puny terminating resistor). That will leave me with the need for yet
another 160 meter antenna to use for transmitting. I can get some kind
of a vertical up but the size of my lot is a factor. The public safety
people will want it able to fall and not damage the neighbor's house. I
can easily do something around 40 feet and I can get some radials down.
In some directions they will have to be shorter than in other directions
(boundary lines ya know). 40 feet is far short of a quarter wavelength
on 160. Short designs use loading coils and hats and all manner of
voodoo to operate. Eventually I can get my end fed wire up around 50
feet. It is curved around in a crescent shape from one side of my
property..across the back... and part way up the other side for a total
of about 170 feet. Much bigger than a 40 foot vertical! Should I expect
better results with the wire elevated than with a 40 foot vertical on
160? I have had very good results on 80 and 40 with that same wire but
higher than the 20 feet I have now. I have never used a vertical on HF
or MF.

When some younger blood is available I will be putting the wire support
system with marine grade blocks (pulleys to you Marine Corps types) and
halyards to put the wire near treetop levels (about 50 feet). The 40
foot vertical can be used on the higher HF bands and forget about 160 on
it.

73,

Bill

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Re: Topband: Xtal Filter +1

2012-01-04 Thread Petr Ourednik
Hi all,

I believe You are looking for something like tunable xtal front-end
preselector 
which I build for several of my ham friends years ago and posted there:

http://www.radio.qrp.cz/1/clanky06/preseletor.htm

Originaly it was published by Peter, G3IPV in the ham radio magazines
years ago.

The main issue in practice is the small tunning range otherwise it works
like champ.

73 - Petr, OK1RP
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