Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
Deliberate QRM and other bad behavior has been on 160 ever since it was opened to all frequencies, 1500W (and a lot more by some), and 160 included on every rig and amp. There are very few who operate only 160M and the rest simply brought their higher bands behavior with them. Carl KM1H - Original Message - From: Jim F. j_fit...@yahoo.com To: topband@contesting.com; Larry w6...@arrl.net Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:17 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band As an avid QRPer I find that QRM is a fact of life almost never intentional, but frequently occuring. Also a fact of life is that there are so many considerate and patient operators willing to stand by and to listen for and try to copy weak signals.. BTW, VE1ZZ here in NH has an absolutely outstanding signal. jim / W1FMR --- On Fri, 1/20/12, Larry lkn...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry lkn...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band To: topband@contesting.com Date: Friday, January 20, 2012, 10:42 PM Unfortunately 160 is not immune to that kind of behavior. I have run into it before (including from an A1 Op member). Some would argue they were agressively pursuing a DX QSO. Most of us would classify the operation as just plain QRM. 73, Larry W6NWS - Original Message - From: wa3...@comcast.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band I have been a ham for almost 46 years now and having been on 160 off an on for much of that time. Tonight I saw something that I had not really seen on 160 and kinda ticked me off big time; some idiot intentiionally trying to jam VE1ZZ while he was trying to work a DX station that I didnt even hear (I'M Jealous obviously). This kind of thing happens a lot on 80 what with all the idiots directly challenging the FCC and all but I have not really run into it on the gentlemens band. Everyone is for the most part so pleasant on this band. I mean if why not just turn it into a contest for who can work the station first? but to intentionally be a spoiler for another station just doesnt cut it. It would be nice to find this joker and poke pins in his coax. Whats the saying I'm mad as hell and not going to put up with this ??? Jim WA3MEJ P.S. VE1ZZ hope you got the contact anyhow. ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4755 - Release Date: 01/20/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 08:07 -0500, W2PM wrote: But as someone else mentioned, if a station has a signal problem, and despite how beloved some of our colleagues are I have heard nasty stuff a number of times, there is nothing wrong mentioning it and people shouldn't be upset provided it's not said unconstructively. Sent from my iPad As a matter of fact... We have that 'uselss' T hanging out there on the end of RST (for CW ops). One year while on the way to Field Day a component lead broke in the bias supply filter in my transmitter. My first two contacts gave me a zero for the T and I retired the transmitter for the weekend. We really should mention it if we observe a problem. Hams should not feel offended if they get a report like that and reporters should be matter of fact about it and not insulting. My experiences with incidents like that are much better than what has been described in this thread. 73, Bill KU8H ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
I was taught to contact the station personally and notify him of the problem tactfully. Don't broadcast your gripe. Try to contact him (or her) and send an accurate signal report, such as 579K. Remember, K indicates clicks and C chirp. Contact him via an email or phone call and notify him of the issue. I remember starting as a novice in the late sixties. We were crystal controlled and we had to manually tune our rigs and chirps were common. I started out with an Ameco AC1 which was a MOPA (master oscilattor power amplifier) rig. I received an post card form an OO (official observer) notifying be of my chirp and offering assistance if necessary. I remember the note started off with something to the effect that This is not a violation notice or a 'bawling out, but one ham helping another fellow ham. I was impressed with the professionalism. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com To: W2PM w...@aol.com Cc: topband@contesting.com, wa3...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:17:34 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 08:07 -0500, W2PM wrote: But as someone else mentioned, if a station has a signal problem, and despite how beloved some of our colleagues are I have heard nasty stuff a number of times, there is nothing wrong mentioning it and people shouldn't be upset provided it's not said unconstructively. Sent from my iPad ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
On 01/21/2012 12:28 AM, Greg wrote: answered...the dx station says QRZ AD and you hear something like GH, BGN, or RJ and many others calling, calling, calling not because they can't hear...because they are too self-centered and inconsiderate to wait and let AD make his QSO and finish. It's disgusting behavior. What can we do? I have actually heard a dxpedition put some particularly badly behaving ham on their own little blacklist, telling him off on the air and promising to never put him in their log because of bad behaviour. After that, the badly behaving station disappeared, and several other stations mysteriously started behaving... -- All rights reversed. ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
answered...the dx station says QRZ AD and you hear something like GH, BGN, or RJ and many others calling, calling, calling not because they can't hear...because they are too self-centered and inconsiderate to wait and let AD make his QSO and finish. It's disgusting behavior. What can we do? The dreaded ? sent by the DX station is an invitation for mayhem. I agree with you. If the DX station is sending a partial call, followed by ?, all stations not remotely resembling the partial should stand by. Hard to believe this even needs to be discussed. Paul, W9AC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
My first QSL was from the FCC. After two weeks of calling CQ on 40 with a bread boarded 6aq5 rig to no avail, FCC sent a postcard asking why as a Novice I was 20. I wound tank coil wrong and second harmonic got their attention. That was somewhat discreet but I hung it up in shack proudly as the monitor station was DX up in Canandaigua,, NY only miles from the border of exotic VE3 land. Sent from my iPad On Jan 22, 2012, at 11:40, mstang...@comcast.net wrote: I was taught to contact the station personally and notify him of the problem tactfully. Don't broadcast your gripe. Try to contact him (or her) and send an accurate signal report, such as 579K. Remember, K indicates clicks and C chirp. Contact him via an email or phone call and notify him of the issue. I remember starting as a novice in the late sixties. We were crystal controlled and we had to manually tune our rigs and chirps were common. I started out with an Ameco AC1 which was a MOPA (master oscilattor power amplifier) rig. I received an post card form an OO (official observer) notifying be of my chirp and offering assistance if necessary. I remember the note started off with something to the effect that This is not a violation notice or a 'bawling out, but one ham helping another fellow ham. I was impressed with the professionalism. Mike N2MS - Original Message - From: Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com To: W2PM w...@aol.com Cc: topband@contesting.com, wa3...@comcast.net Sent: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:17:34 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 08:07 -0500, W2PM wrote: But as someone else mentioned, if a station has a signal problem, and despite how beloved some of our colleagues are I have heard nasty stuff a number of times, there is nothing wrong mentioning it and people shouldn't be upset provided it's not said unconstructively. Sent from my iPad ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band
I've given out a few 598C or 557AC rst's over the years. 30 yrs ago, 95% of ops knew exactly what I was telling them. Sadly, I think it must be closer to 5% that know what I am telling them nowadays. VE9AA Mike, Coreen Corey Smith 699 Rte 616 Keswick Ridge NB Canada E6L 1T1 - Original Message - From: Bill Cromwell To: W2PM Cc: topband@contesting.com ; wa3...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 12:17 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Ticked over intentional interference on top band On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 08:07 -0500, W2PM wrote: But as someone else mentioned, if a station has a signal problem, and despite how beloved some of our colleagues are I have heard nasty stuff a number of times, there is nothing wrong mentioning it and people shouldn't be upset provided it's not said unconstructively. Sent from my iPad As a matter of fact... We have that 'uselss' T hanging out there on the end of RST (for CW ops). One year while on the way to Field Day a component lead broke in the bias supply filter in my transmitter. My first two contacts gave me a zero for the T and I retired the transmitter for the weekend. We really should mention it if we observe a problem. Hams should not feel offended if they get a report like that and reporters should be matter of fact about it and not insulting. My experiences with incidents like that are much better than what has been described in this thread. 73, Bill KU8H ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4156 - Release Date: 01/20/12 19:34:00 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: HK0NA
HK0NA was holding court on 1845 kHz last night - LSB. There was a bit of QRM from the NAQP SSB contest - but that ended at 0600Z. They were listening split - up 5. I ended being able to work them just before 0600Z. They were also on 80CW all evening. Perhaps tonight they will swap and be on CW on 160 meters. Good luck to all. Tree N6TR Boring, OR ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Topband: Need some Ferrite cores for common mode choke
I'm running LMR-400 from the shack out to the auto tuner at the base of my vertical and could use some #31 ferrite cores that handle the larger coax (connectors are already attached) so if'n anyone has extra snap on types (#31 or #43 type work, I believe) I'd appreciate an e-mail via my home address (not lookin' for a handout, will reimburse you if needed). Don't believe I'll have time prior to the CQ WW 160 contest to order and receive from a company...thanks, in advance, for your reply. 72, Jim Rodenkirch, K9JWV ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Intentional interference
While stations deliberately calling over the DX or the station he is working in a non-split pileup can really wreak havoc (making so much noise that even the offenders can't work the DX), I actually find this behavior slightly amusing when part of a split pileup. The lids are calling while the DX or the station he is working is transmitting. In that case, they aren't QRMing the DX (not on his frequency, split) or the station the DX is trying to work (the pileup is spread out enough that the stations can be separated); they are simply QRMing themselves. As the yahoos call out of turn, I am casing the pileup and determining the listening frequency and timing patterns of the DX station. I then take my mighty 100 watts and work the DX station with a minimum of trasmitting, often on first or second call. Nothing quite as effective as a little bit of listening. I must admit that I've see the above scenario much more frequently on the higher bands. Most 160M operators are indeed gentlemen. And the ones that aren't don't make as many contacts, now do they? 73, Trey KJ4FDV ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
