Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread W2PM
I'm done with external drives and now use cloud based backup services. Never 
worry now about the timelinness and availability of the backups. 

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 26, 2012, at 8:18, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote:

 I was distracted for a week trying to recover a lost disk but I put the SSD 
 in place again yesterday. This time I wrapped the SSD in aluminium foil and 
 put 2 clamp on cores on the SATA cable. I fired up my system, and the extra 
 measures had no noticeable improvement on the birdie situation. The
 birdies appear as soon as I power up the drive.
 
 A local Ham, who has not particularly good wiring in his shack and 
 close-by antennas, uses SS drives without reporting issues.
 
 Are your drives inside the computer? Have you run checks to see what the 
 point of egress from the computer, or ingress to the receiving system, are?
 
 I'm not a big fan of throwing beads at noise issues, or wrapping things. 
 Usually that isn't a good solution. Running a series of tests to locate the 
 point of leakage is usually faster and better.
 
 Are there any good articles on how to run tests that anyone is aware of?
 
 73 Tom 
 
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Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:38 -0400, W2PM wrote:
 I'm done with external drives and now use cloud based backup services. Never 
 worry now about the timelinness and availability of the backups. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 

Hi,

I can't get past the fact that in the cloud I would be entrusting
complete strangers with *everything* I have on record including the
privacy of my data. I just don't trust any big city strangers that much.
If the security and safety of your data doesn't matter that much why
bother about the expense of the cloud? YMMV.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Bob K6UJ
I'm with Bill,  I still use external drives for backups for the same reason, 
but am tempted with the cloud
Maybe our worries are unfounded ?  Do the cloud systems back up the data  (on 
external hard drives, :-)   ?

Bob
K6UJ

On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:59 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

 On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:38 -0400, W2PM wrote:
 I'm done with external drives and now use cloud based backup services. Never 
 worry now about the timelinness and availability of the backups. 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I can't get past the fact that in the cloud I would be entrusting
 complete strangers with *everything* I have on record including the
 privacy of my data. I just don't trust any big city strangers that much.
 If the security and safety of your data doesn't matter that much why
 bother about the expense of the cloud? YMMV.
 
 73,
 
 Bill  KU8H
 
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Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise! off topic material moved off list

2012-07-06 Thread Bill Cromwell
Hi,

I have moved comments with interested people regarding backups and
clouds, etc off list. I got into this thread because I too was getting
intolerable interference form a desktop computer power supply. All the
rest moved quickly off topic.

On another note, I have had an opportunity to sniff around for my
computer on top band and was pleased to NOT find it. The addition of the
EMI filter in my power supply worked after two attempts to get it right
(better ground for the filter) worked very well.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: Noise in the Shack - A new noise!

2012-07-06 Thread Mike Waters
I don't know about you, but we have data that is far too important not to
make multiple backup copies ourselves. Think about whether you are willing
to take a of risk losing it all because the cloud had a glitch or closed
their doors.

A large cloud service corporation has made news headlines more than once
because they permanently lost some of their customer's data. The cloud
might be a convenient addition to external hard drives and optical media,
but I would never trust my data exclusively to any third party regardless
of how they backup the data.

We have years of work and our means of living backed up on several external
drives, DVDs/CD-ROMs, and memory sticks (some of which are in a safe
deposit box). Not everyone needs all that, I realize. But if the data you
have on your computers is important enough that it needs to be backed up, I
suggest that you don't solely rely on any third party.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Bob K6UJ k...@pacbell.net wrote:

 I'm with Bill,  I still use external drives for backups for the same
 reason, but am tempted with the cloud
 Maybe our worries are unfounded ?  Do the cloud systems back up the data
  (on external hard drives, :-)   ?

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