Re: Topband: ALUMINUM

2013-03-09 Thread Tom W8JI
The life of aluminum not only depends on the environment and the particular 
aluminum alloy, but also the electrical potential it is connected to.  It 
can be especially bad in the presense of chloides, like near the sea, or 
with high galvanic potentials.


It disappears pretty fast at my house in contact with soil, either because 
my other ground systems form a battery through the soil, the iron in the 
soil, and/or the pH.


I use #9 aluminum fence wire for some antennas, and I'm planning on using it 
in a open wire feedline. I have had some breakage problems in aluminum wire 
antennas because of wind vibration or some other fatigue. Due to weight 
restrictions, I almost have to use aluminum wire in some places.


73 Tom 


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Re: Topband: FO8AJ - TX5K

2013-03-09 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Fri, 2013-03-08 at 23:15 -0700, James Rodenkirch wrote:
 Mike: re TX5K   I saw much of that behavior on 40 as well.  In fact,
  40 was the only HF band that I operate on that I did NOT work them on
  and felt like the number(s) of stations and the utterly rude behavior
  contributed to that non band happening!  I put out a decent signal
  on 40 so was surprised.
 
 Totally disgusting is the only way to describe the behavior of some of
  those 40 meter operators!
 
 Oh well, it's a hobby so you get what you get, I guess - or sumpin'
  like that.
 
 The Top Band crowd was, as usual, totally on the other of the spectrum
  - congenial, allowing the operator to run the show...no keying down on
  top of themsigh..wish all bands were like that.
 
 72, Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV


Hi Jim,

I was astonished when I heard them on 160 meters. My antenna is NOT the
very best. I have occasionally heard some DX stations on 160. I have
suspected that one reason I don't hear a lot of DX on the lower bands is
the QRM from their piles. To be honest I did hear some stations
transmitting on the DX's frequency. A quick up 3 and they actually
moved! That allowed even *me* to hear the DX.

The ice and snow is beginning to yield and soon enough I'll be out there
putting up some metal tubing (grin). Along with some better tools to
help sort them at the receiver and I should be in.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: ALUMINUM

2013-03-09 Thread ZR
I use CATV hardline everywhere here and have had some left over bare coils 
on the ground for the 24 years Ive been here. Except for staining from 
leaves, etc it is still fine appearing. The ground is mostly leaves, twigs 
and pine needles. The bare cable CATV runs in this town have been up even 
longer and Ive been told by installers the operational life is expected to 
be 25 years or longer, unless it is subject to physical damage of course 
which is SOP from storms.


Carl
KM1H


- Original Message - 
From: Hardy Landskov n...@cox.net

To: Bob Kirkeby wb0...@gmail.com; Mike Greenway k...@bellsouth.net
Cc: TOPBAND TOPBAND@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: ALUMINUM


Bob,
I had the same experience. I was using bare 75 ohm TV hardline as a matching
section on my 160 Delta loop and it was partially buried. But after 2 years,
the outer jacket was almost gone when I had to dig it up. My soil is just
regular sandy dirt.
So my advice to anyone that wants to bury aluminum cable or wire is make
sure it is insulated or jacketed.
73 Hardy N7RT
Phoenix


- Original Message - 
From: Bob Kirkeby wb0...@gmail.com

To: Mike Greenway k...@bellsouth.net
Cc: TOPBAND TOPBAND@contesting.com
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Topband: ALUMINUM


I have used solid #10 aluminum as radials buried 6 in alkaline soil. It
became badly corroded in 2 years; nearly disintegrated in spots. Not saying
it wouldn't be fine in other soils.
73
Bob
WBØDSF

On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Mike Greenway k...@bellsouth.net wrote:


From some feedback on the aluminum coated steel, I am thinking about
trying some regular aluminum, 14 gauge.  Anyone got a downside to this?
 Price, weight, conductivity are good and little if any stretch.  I will
use aluminum screws and nuts on the end terminations with No Ox.  73 Mike
K4PI
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