Re: Topband: RFI ferrites

2013-05-18 Thread Jim Brown

On 5/17/2013 8:41 AM, Charlie Cunningham wrote:

Contact Lynne Frye at Kreger Components, Inc. Salem, VA.


I've done biz with Kreiger at least once and been pleased.  Do not waste 
your money and their time buying small quantities of ferrite parts. 
Appendix One of my RFI tutorial includes Fair-Rite part numbers of the 
useful parts, a list of known good vendors, and a worksheet to help hams 
decide how many they should buy based on their operating habits. If 
you're buying small quantity (less than a few boxes) it pays to call 
multiple distributors -- those with stock left over from a big order 
will be cheaper.


Organize a group purchase of your local club and get quantity discounts 
that make the parts you need very inexpensive.  I've been part of at 
least a half dozen such efforts over the years. I typically pay $4-$5 
for a 2.4-in o.d. toroid, and $10-$12 for the biggest clamp-ons (1-inch 
i.d.). Fair-Rite is easy to deal with if you hit their minimums and buy 
box quantities, and they will drop ship boxes to more than one locations.


A box of toroids is 100 pieces, and the biggest clamp-ons are 36 to a box.

We do want box quantities because there is much less breakage in full 
boxes packed by Fair-Rite.


73, Jim K9YC.
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Re: Topband: RFI ferrites

2013-05-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Very good points, Jim, and I agree!

As I said earlier, Lynne and the folks at Kreger can point us to the other
Fair-Rite distributors - but I expect that the same advice still applies!

In my past experience, I was dealing with substantial industrial quantities
for electricity meters etc. and the designer kits were generally supplied
free of charge to a large customer. Not to be expected here.

Charlie, K4OTV
Charles Cunningham, Jr. PE

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:13 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: RFI ferrites

On 5/17/2013 8:41 AM, Charlie Cunningham wrote:
 Contact Lynne Frye at Kreger Components, Inc. Salem, VA.

I've done biz with Kreiger at least once and been pleased.  Do not waste
your money and their time buying small quantities of ferrite parts. 
Appendix One of my RFI tutorial includes Fair-Rite part numbers of the
useful parts, a list of known good vendors, and a worksheet to help hams
decide how many they should buy based on their operating habits. If you're
buying small quantity (less than a few boxes) it pays to call multiple
distributors -- those with stock left over from a big order will be cheaper.

Organize a group purchase of your local club and get quantity discounts that
make the parts you need very inexpensive.  I've been part of at least a half
dozen such efforts over the years. I typically pay $4-$5 for a 2.4-in o.d.
toroid, and $10-$12 for the biggest clamp-ons (1-inch i.d.). Fair-Rite is
easy to deal with if you hit their minimums and buy box quantities, and they
will drop ship boxes to more than one locations.

A box of toroids is 100 pieces, and the biggest clamp-ons are 36 to a box.

We do want box quantities because there is much less breakage in full boxes
packed by Fair-Rite.

73, Jim K9YC.
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Topband: Thanks!

2013-05-18 Thread dospicos


  

Hi Folks; 

  

Thanks a bunch, to all those who responded with source possibilities for 31 mix 
toroids !  I will add a note here, after I actually make a purchase to 
designate the lucky victim of my small purchase. 



73 Dean  W5PJR 

Tijeras, NM 

  

  
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Topband: Titanex V160HD Sloppy Tube-Joints

2013-05-18 Thread Dave G4GED

Hi All and thanks for reading.

When I luffed-over my 6 year old V160HD for it's annual maintenance 
check, it struck me just how sloppy all the various jointed sections 
have become.
It's not that the securing bolts have become loose, they're still firm 
and tight.


As owners will know, there are two doughnut shaped shims per section 
joint to adjust for the difference in tube sizes and it's the play 
between these and the tube ends that's the problem. I don't remember 
there being between a half to one mm gaps around the circumference in 
the past?


I don't know whether new shims would fix it but Titanex no longer answer 
emails and I wouldn't know where to start trying to find an outsource 
willing to make me a few new ones to the required tolerances.

Adding any more guys than the set I have at 12m is also a no go.
The only thing I think may help, is to try increasing the tube overlap 
at each joint from the present  nominal 5 inch to say 10 inch or more?

Possibly adding an additional bolt at each joint also?

I wonder if any other Titanex owners have had this problem and have any 
advice to share please?


Many thanks in advance.
Dave G4GED
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Re: Topband: Thanks!

2013-05-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Good luck, Dean!!

I'm sure you can find what you need! (I've even thought about approaching  
Kreger Components about establishing a small dealership to serve the amateur 
community)  I think that Jim's comments about buying  box-sized lots to 
minimize damage, have merit, though.

Good luck in your quest - I'm sure that you can find just what you need!

Best regards,
Charlie, K4OTV
Charles Cunningham, Jr.  PE

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Hi Folks; 

  

Thanks a bunch, to all those who responded with source possibilities for 31 mix 
toroids !  I will add a note here, after I actually make a purchase to 
designate the lucky victim of my small purchase. 



73 Dean  W5PJR 

Tijeras, NM 

  

  
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Topband: Titanex 160HD

2013-05-18 Thread hodgson
They have also changed the diameters
of the tubes, so any spares that you buy
will not fit the older models.
I just used some aluminium shims plus
a bolt, and as long as you keep it tight
it seems to work ok.
I would also guy it twice.

You could also try contacting Steffen Freitag
DL6SFR as he has helped me in the past with
contacting Titanex.

73 Steve, ZC4Li.

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Re: Topband: Thanks!

2013-05-18 Thread Charlie Cunningham
Hi, Dean

Well good luck in your hunt.

Over the years I've found many uses for various Fair-Rite cores at HF. If you 
get the larger beads/tubes thatwill fit over RG-213 etc. you can make excellent 
1:1 current baluns by slipping them over the cable before putting the connector 
on. You can hold them in place with wire-ties. The ferrite is completely 
impervious to weather as far as I can tell.

I've also used Fair-Rite cores to construct the input matching transformer in 
my home-brew 3-500Z amp and I've used smaller binocular cores to wind matchng 
transformers for 160 receiving loops.

So, many applications for the cores - not just on Topband!  :-)

Have a good afternoon!

Charlie, K4OTV

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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 12:24 PM
To: Charlie Cunningham
Subject: Re: Topband: Thanks!


Hi Charlie:

Thanks for the infos and the good wishes.  Im looking at the fair-rite 
catalog and trying to come up with a good selection for experimentation when I 
run into RFI problems.

Not sure how much of a ham market there really is, outside of the lowbanders. I 
never hear anybody else complaining about it.  

I guess the buy bulk advice is good for somebody, but certainly didnt 
address my question. 

73 and TU again

Dean W5PJR
Tijeras, NM


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From: Charlie Cunningham charlie-cunning...@nc.rr.com
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Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:17:18 AM
Subject: RE: Topband: Thanks!

Good luck, Dean!!

I'm sure you can find what you need! (I've even thought about approaching  
Kreger Components about establishing a small dealership to serve the amateur 
community)  I think that Jim's comments about buying  box-sized lots to 
minimize damage, have merit, though.

Good luck in your quest - I'm sure that you can find just what you need!

Best regards,
Charlie, K4OTV
Charles Cunningham, Jr.  PE

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dospi...@q.com
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:38 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Thanks!



  

Hi Folks; 

  

Thanks a bunch, to all those who responded with source possibilities for 31 mix 
toroids !  I will add a note here, after I actually make a purchase to 
designate the lucky victim of my small purchase. 



73 Dean  W5PJR 

Tijeras, NM 

  

  
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