Re: Topband: DX Engineering NCC-1 phase controller

2015-12-20 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist



On 12/19/2015 11:46 PM, Rune Øye wrote:

 a NCC-1 from Dx Engeneering. My plan is to use this

 with my SAL30  RX array on antenna port A and


73 Rune LA7THA


This isn't an answer to your question, but a
more straightforward way to accomplish what I
think you are trying to do would be to make an
array of two loops, where the azimuth of the
individual loops can be chosen so that they
null out the single point noise source that
you are trying to null out with the NCC-1.
The azimuth of the array can then be chosen
to enhance in the direction of the signal you
want to receive.  IOW, the orientation of
the loops is independent of the orientation
of the array.

The trouble with the SAL is that the null
of the loops is always at a 90 degree angle
to the angle of reception.  You can't choose
the angle.  The other trouble with the SAL
is that the spacing between the loops is
always very small, and you can't choose that
either.  If you increase the spacing, it
isn't a SAL any more, it's just ordinary loops
in phase.

Rick N6RK
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Topband: Detuning a nearby Tower

2015-12-20 Thread Carl Braun
Hello Topbanders

I have a two element array 1/8wl away from my 90' Skyneedle tower with Telrex 
yagi atop.  I want to electrically isolate this tower from the array by 
dropping a shunt wire from near the top of the tower down to the panel where I 
have an MFJ model 931 artificial ground (input) that then connects to my earth 
ground.  Tuning the 931 to eliminate the RF field strength induced from the 
array results in an invisible tower to the array...in theory.

In the past, I have used a similar method to shunt feed the tower on 160 ala 
vacuum variable tuning and radials.  When I tapped the tower I found a sweet 
spot at the ~70' level on the skyneedle that provided a fairly good 42 ohm 
match and, once tuned, it worked pretty well on TX.

Here is the concern...I would prefer to use this same tap point for my detuning 
experiment as it seems to make sense that the same point would induce the max 
coupling from the array...or at least be a good starting point.  ON4UN and 
others have implied that, when detuning a tower, you should tap it at the TOP 
of the tower structure and not ¼ of the way down from the top like I's 
considering.

Should I just run the 3' gamma arm off of the very TOP of the tower at the 90' 
level then down or am I better off tapping the gamma arm at the 67' level as I 
did when I shunt fed the tower for TX on 160?

Comments?

Carl

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Topband: SB-1000

2015-12-20 Thread Jim Murray via Topband

After a pretty thorough check on the ailing 160M section this what I have in 
mind and would appreciate any further suggestions.  All previous owner wiring 
is ok.  One missing connection is 10M mod. 160M Padding cap (170pf, 7500V 
doorknob) is shot.  Band switch appears to be still usable, no damage to 
contacts etc. Idea now is to replace the cap (with "corona washer") or good 
mica cap, new style parasitic suppressor, new (al-80a) plate choke and give it 
a whirl.

Regards,jim/k2hn 
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Re: Topband: DX Engineering NCC-1 phase controller

2015-12-20 Thread Kris Mraz
I use the MFJ-1025 (similar to the NCC-1) with my SAL-20. In my case I use my
TX antenna as the sense input. My xcvr (FTdx5000) internally feeds the
TX antenna to an
output connector while in receive. So I just feed that signal to the
MFJ-1025. Works
great on local powerline buzz as well as switching PS noise that may drift into
my receive BW. On 80m my TX antenna is a 4sq and on 160m it's a vertical.

Re: SAL pattern. The null is at 180 degrees if you have the delay line
and couplers
configured right. See the users manual and 4nec2 model. But this is
more appropriate
fodder for the sharedapexloop yahoo forum.

73,
Kris N5KM


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Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 08:09:43 -0800
From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" 
To: Rune ?ye ,"topband@contesting.com"

Subject: Re: Topband: DX Engineering NCC-1 phase controller
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On 12/19/2015 11:46 PM, Rune ?ye wrote:
>  a NCC-1 from Dx Engeneering. My plan is to use this
  with my SAL30  RX array on antenna port A and

> 73 Rune LA7THA

This isn't an answer to your question, but a
more straightforward way to accomplish what I
think you are trying to do would be to make an
array of two loops, where the azimuth of the
individual loops can be chosen so that they
null out the single point noise source that
you are trying to null out with the NCC-1.
The azimuth of the array can then be chosen
to enhance in the direction of the signal you
want to receive.  IOW, the orientation of
the loops is independent of the orientation
of the array.

The trouble with the SAL is that the null
of the loops is always at a 90 degree angle
to the angle of reception.  You can't choose
the angle.  The other trouble with the SAL
is that the spacing between the loops is
always very small, and you can't choose that
either.  If you increase the spacing, it
isn't a SAL any more, it's just ordinary loops
in phase.

Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: F-type connectors transmitting question

2015-12-20 Thread mstangelo
Gary, Tom,

Thanks for the information. I will stick with the compression UHF connectors.

Mike N2MS
- Original Message -
From: Tom W8JI 
To: Michael St. Angelo 
Sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2015 00:22:21 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Topband: F-type connectors transmitting question

F11 will handle at least 3 kW outside in the air.

Don't worry about the braid. The foil plus braid is good enough. You'll 
never notice any radiation from it.


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Re: Topband: F-type connectors transmitting question

2015-12-20 Thread Mike Waters
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Michael St. Angelo 
wrote:

>  I'd like to try F type connectors. Will the smaller center conductor pin
> of the F type connector handle power when transmitting?
>

I'll just answer this part of your question: YES. It will likely handle
whatever the coax is rated for. I have never had a problem running 1500
watts through an F connector. They don't even get warm.

A UHF connector will handle at least 10 kW.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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