Re: Topband: Spring Stew Perry in a few more days

2016-03-02 Thread Bill Cromwell

Hi Jim,

Thanks. I started getting RF power out on transmit! I still have a lot 
to do. It's rude and crude! I spent enough time with the scope and 
generator today that as soon as I had some RF out of it I quit for the 
day. Staying at it too long leads to mistakes and frustration :)


Alignment, balancing, phasing are next. And oh by the way - nice to have 
some idea of operating frequency. The dial still needs repair. I can 
tell when I'm inside the ham band but more precision than that - not yet.


73,

Bill  KU8H

On 03/02/2016 01:37 PM, James Rodenkirch wrote:

I'll be lookin' for ya as a QRP contestant, BillGL getting that Atlas up 
and runnin'

71.5/72 de Jim R. K9JWV




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Topband: ARRL DX Phone Contest

2016-03-02 Thread Doug Ellmore
Given personal commitments for the weekend, I was considering operating the
ARRL DX contest 160m single band.

Given the recent discussion regarding the CQ 160m contest, I downloaded a
Top Ban World Allocations worksheet at
   http://www.qsl.net/n1eu/topband/

Given, the discussion, it looks like the place to be would be
  1.843-1.850 for much of the dx,

  1.830 to 2.000 for other DX.

As was discussed previously, makes for a small amount of spectrum for a
single band 160m contest.

But, please look for me.  I am starting to operate more on 160m for DXCC.
I will have an Inverted L and likely another TX antenna.  I hope to have a
BOG or two and maybe a K9AY deployed again.

73

Doug NA1DX
d...@ellmore.net

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Topband: Capacitors and Coil

2016-03-02 Thread Jim Murray via Topband
Hi all,Not trying to push a sale but thought someone on topband could use the 
variables and roller inductor I just put on sale on QRZ.
73,jim/k2hn
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Re: Topband: Spring Stew Perry in a few more days

2016-03-02 Thread James Rodenkirch
I'll be lookin' for ya as a QRP contestant, BillGL getting that Atlas up 
and runnin'

71.5/72 de Jim R. K9JWV


From: Topband  on behalf of Bill Cromwell 

Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 11:28 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Spring Stew Perry in a few more days

Hi,

Somebody mentioned the Stew is coming 'round again so I finally
remembered to look it up. It will be here a week from Saturday. I have
been 'on a roll' at my workbench getting the old radios operational
again. I am going to flog myself attempting to have the station ready to
get on the air with a patched up antenna (frost is still in the ground).
My Atlas 180 is coming along pretty well. I stopped using it about
twenty years ago (where did the time go!) and it has deteriorated just
sitting on the shelf. Magic? It is receiving pretty well now. Most of
the transmitter is trying to work now. It wouldn't even think about it
last week. No RX. No TX. Nada. I printed a copy of the voltage charts
and I'll use that to isolate the trouble. I can see that somebody in the
past made some "improvements" or at least some repairs. I suspect a
broken wire or a solder joint. Maybe one of those pesky electrolytic
caps. At high volume the RX audio is "raspy" and I have been ignoring
that - keep the volume down to just my garage.

And the DX-100 is wanting to work. It would be great to have both
available. The Kenwood R-599 has 160 on it and works as well as it ever
did. Just needs a TX to go with. The matching T-599 does NOT have Top
Band. What's up with that? I do have a real life aside from ham radio
(like most of us) so I will have to *focus* to be on 160 in time for the
Stew. I hope to see you on the air - *soon*.

73,

Bill  KU8H
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Topband: Spring Stew Perry in a few more days

2016-03-02 Thread Bill Cromwell

Hi,

Somebody mentioned the Stew is coming 'round again so I finally 
remembered to look it up. It will be here a week from Saturday. I have 
been 'on a roll' at my workbench getting the old radios operational 
again. I am going to flog myself attempting to have the station ready to 
get on the air with a patched up antenna (frost is still in the ground). 
My Atlas 180 is coming along pretty well. I stopped using it about 
twenty years ago (where did the time go!) and it has deteriorated just 
sitting on the shelf. Magic? It is receiving pretty well now. Most of 
the transmitter is trying to work now. It wouldn't even think about it 
last week. No RX. No TX. Nada. I printed a copy of the voltage charts 
and I'll use that to isolate the trouble. I can see that somebody in the 
past made some "improvements" or at least some repairs. I suspect a 
broken wire or a solder joint. Maybe one of those pesky electrolytic 
caps. At high volume the RX audio is "raspy" and I have been ignoring 
that - keep the volume down to just my garage.


And the DX-100 is wanting to work. It would be great to have both 
available. The Kenwood R-599 has 160 on it and works as well as it ever 
did. Just needs a TX to go with. The matching T-599 does NOT have Top 
Band. What's up with that? I do have a real life aside from ham radio 
(like most of us) so I will have to *focus* to be on 160 in time for the 
Stew. I hope to see you on the air - *soon*.


73,

Bill  KU8H
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Re: Topband: Ground screen ????

2016-03-02 Thread Jim Brown

On Wed,3/2/2016 8:02 AM, Joshua M. Arritt wrote:
Galvanized Fe material is problematic from an R standpoint as well 
(vs. Cu). This results in a "lossy" ground plane.   That condition has 
real impact the effectiveness of the antenna system, when compared to 
an all-Cu (or at least a lower-R metal) plane. 


That's insignificant because of the much greater surface area of the 
ground screen as compared to a conventional radial system of comparable 
size.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: Ground screen ????

2016-03-02 Thread Joshua M. Arritt
Galvanized Fe material is problematic from an R standpoint as well (vs. 
Cu).  This results in a "lossy" ground plane.   That condition has real 
impact the effectiveness of the antenna system, when compared to an 
all-Cu (or at least a lower-R metal) plane.


Immediately perceived consequence of the poor inter-section bonds is 
walking VSWR, but other factors (including rad efficiency) are also 
walking around.


Bonding of dissimilar metals (Cu <-> Fe) requires careful method 
consideration to hold corrosion at bay.  Whatever scheme is used to 
connect to this ground plane should keep that in mind.


The PIM issue was rightly treated from a TX standpoint by KZ1W. However, 
the PIM issue /may/ be more salient from an RX standpoint -- not 
necessarily as coherent intermod from surrounding transmitters per se, 
but rather as perceived as elevated RX noise.   Inv.L over a 
sectioned-Fe-plane-counterpoise may make a markedly worse RX antenna 
than the same Inv.L over a modest, well-constructed Cu plane.  The local 
ambient noise environment will be a factor in the magnitude of noise 
contribution from this issue (might be quiet vs. power lines, for 
instance). Certianly, one will want to investigate alternative RX 
antennae anyway.


I don't feel as though lightning protection is any bit a 
"more-complicated" an issue here; bonding the coax with a good low-Z 
method to earth before it enters the shack is an important first step.  
Including good common-mode elimination at the feedpoint should increase 
protection to some degree as well. There are methods beyond these steps 
-- situation-dependent -- which may help further reduce risk.  Risk 
/reduction/ is all we can do in this department anyway


All the problems in mind, a metal roof is better than no ground plane at 
all.  It's not an ideal situation by any means, but armed with the sound 
knowledge presented in this thread, I would not be "above" of employing 
just such a scheme if:

-  I were severely limited in land space,
- had a means of separate RX aerial operation,
- a willingness to forget tuner settings often for a given F(x), and
- a BIG bug bite for low band operation!

73,

  - Josh / KF4YLM



On 01.03.2016 22:09, Douglas Ruz (CO8DM) wrote:

Hi,

Need some ideas from your side...

I am trying to find a good solution for my 160/80m antenna.

I am thinking about some kind of Inv L with an 80m trap as a radiator for both 
bands.

But, what about the counterpoise...Unfortunately in my small city lot I can´t 
install radials and I can´t get parts for the FCP yet...what about a Ground 
screen ???...I have a galvanized roof...it is about 50 ft long and 16 ft 
wide...galvanized sheets are 3 by 8 ft long and all are bolted together. The 
roof is about 15 ft high.

Can I use this roof as a ground screen for the 160/80m antenna ???

Thoughts ?,

73Douglas, CO8DM
P.S:1- I finish my 50 ft tower installation.
2- Thanks for all QSO´s on 160m before ARRL CW contest with me and with 
our contest   station T48K.

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