Re: Topband: Inverted L off tower?

2016-05-23 Thread Bob Lawson N6RW

Jim

I put up a 70 foot tower (Tashjian DX-70) with a SteppIR DB-36 Yagi 
about 5 feet above it last year.  I hung an IAC "Double Bazooka" 
Inverted L on it with 3 to 4 foot yardarm at the top of the tower.  The 
tower is on the highest peak of my property and none of the pine trees 
are high enough to run the "horizontal" part of the L horizontally, so 
it slopes around 45 degrees.  I also run my Yagi coax and control lines 
down an 18 inch yardarm that is 120 degrees away from the Inv. L in the 
horizontal plane. Some of the radials are 135 feet long, but most of 
them are 70 feet.  The IAC "Double Bazooka" design is quite broadband 
(less than 2:1 from 1.8 to 2.0 MHz) - similar to a cage design.  It's 
SWR is lowest when I set the SteppIR DB-36 to the low end of 80 meters.


The antenna gets out pretty well.  I get good reports from Europe from 
here in Arizona (even from guys I can't hear).  I was able to work 74 
countries in my first year on 160 with this antenna - including some of 
the major DXpeditions we had this year.  I hope to have a Hi-Z 4-square 
RX antenna up in time for next season, so I'll be able to hear more 
people that can hear me, but I currently have no plans to change the TX 
antenna.


73 de Bob N6RW


On 5/23/2016 7:34 AM, Jim Miller wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. My friend (not me...) is
considering his options.

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:


One of my friends is thinking about installing a 70 ft. tower with a
2-element shortened 40M yagi. He is thinking about installing the new tower
in a location where he now has a vertical used for 80M and 160M (i.e - the
existing radials will terminate at or close to the base of the new tower).
He is planning to relocate the 80M vertical to another location with other
radials. He would like to support an inverted L for 160M off of the new
tower, using the existing radials. His question is, how far must the
vertical leg of the inverted L be spaced from the new tower, with a view to
keeping it close enough to use the existing radials?


Thanks

jim ab3cv




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Topband: ma160v

2016-05-23 Thread w5jmw
Hi all.I currently have 1 cushcraft ma160v,as you all know this is a 
cushcraft 160 vertical.I just recently aqquired a second.Now,has 
anyonetried a rotatable dipole using 2 of these.The idea intrigues me.I 
could mount this on a 55 ft tower.The only other antennas are a m2 6 mtr 
2 klm's 2 mtr and a 432 m2.So there should not be any interaction.What 
does the group think? any ideas? a waste of time? your thoughts..73 john 
w5jmw


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Re: Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton

2016-05-23 Thread David Raymond
For those of us who couldn't make it this year, any photos or video from the 
Dayton Topband Dinner?  73. . . Dave, W0FLS


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From: "Hugh Valentine" 

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton



You beat me to it Barry.
It was a great time for all.  I'm sad I did not get to spend time with you 
as I haven't been to the dinner in about 15 or more years.

Tree and Tim put on a good show and thanks to George "UVZ".
It went by too fast.

Val

N4RJ
Still an "Uncured Ham"

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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:39 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton

It was great to see so many old 160 friends...  old being the operative
word. Tim Duffy and Tree did a good job and all the  rest who worked on 
the

event should be lauded for their effort. Nicely  done, gang.

73, Barry,  W9UCW
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Re: Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton

2016-05-23 Thread Hugh Valentine

You beat me to it Barry.
It was a great time for all.  I'm sad I did not get to spend time with you 
as I haven't been to the dinner in about 15 or more years.

Tree and Tim put on a good show and thanks to George "UVZ".
It went by too fast.

Val

N4RJ
Still an "Uncured Ham"

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From: W9UCW--- via Topband

Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 5:39 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton

It was great to see so many old 160 friends...  old being the operative
word. Tim Duffy and Tree did a good job and all the  rest who worked on the
event should be lauded for their effort. Nicely  done, gang.

73, Barry,  W9UCW
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Topband: Topband Dinner-Dayton

2016-05-23 Thread W9UCW--- via Topband
It was great to see so many old 160 friends...  old being the operative 
word. Tim Duffy and Tree did a good job and all the  rest who worked on the 
event should be lauded for their effort. Nicely  done, gang.
 
73, Barry,  W9UCW
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Re: Topband: Inverted L off tower?

2016-05-23 Thread Jim Miller
Thanks for all the feedback and suggestions. My friend (not me...) is
considering his options.

73

jim ab3cv

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 7:40 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:

> One of my friends is thinking about installing a 70 ft. tower with a
> 2-element shortened 40M yagi. He is thinking about installing the new tower
> in a location where he now has a vertical used for 80M and 160M (i.e - the
> existing radials will terminate at or close to the base of the new tower).
> He is planning to relocate the 80M vertical to another location with other
> radials. He would like to support an inverted L for 160M off of the new
> tower, using the existing radials. His question is, how far must the
> vertical leg of the inverted L be spaced from the new tower, with a view to
> keeping it close enough to use the existing radials?
>
>
> Thanks
>
> jim ab3cv
>
>
>
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Re: Topband: Inverted L off tower?

2016-05-23 Thread Herbert Schoenbohm
This may not be required if you do a three or 4 wire cage feed as the 
cage does most of the radiation and essential shields the coax and rotor 
cable  wires just as running them inside.



On 5/23/2016 8:26 AM, Jon Zaimes wrote:

and run all cabling from the bottom and inside the tower whether
guyed or self-supporting.


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Re: Topband: Inverted L off tower?

2016-05-23 Thread Jon Zaimes
Jim,

Why not just shunt feed the tower? 70 feet with that beam for top-loading is
a good height for 160. If it will be a guyed tower these would need to be
insulated, and run all cabling from the bottom and inside the tower whether
guyed or self-supporting.

Based on some discussion on the reflector a few months ago, the tower would
best be sited at the center point of the existing radial field. Offsetting
it along one of the radials would be like using only one radial.

73/Jon AA1K
www.aa1k.us

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From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Miller
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 7:41 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: Inverted L off tower?

One of my friends is thinking about installing a 70 ft. tower with a
2-element shortened 40M yagi. He is thinking about installing the new tower
in a location where he now has a vertical used for 80M and 160M (i.e - the
existing radials will terminate at or close to the base of the new tower).
He is planning to relocate the 80M vertical to another location with other
radials. He would like to support an inverted L for 160M off of the new
tower, using the existing radials. His question is, how far must the
vertical leg of the inverted L be spaced from the new tower, with a view to
keeping it close enough to use the existing radials?


Thanks

jim ab3cv
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