Re: Topband: JT65 Power and bandwidth

2017-03-18 Thread K4SAV

On 3/18/2017 2:42 PM, Mike Waters wrote:

I was wondering about just how narrow we can go on JT9, JT65, or WSPR.


Below is some information on the bandwidth required for JT-65.  This was 
copied from one of the JT-65 websites.


JT65A operators use USB VFO FREQUENCY for spots.
JT65A signal is about 1.3+kHz higher than the VFO frequency
The JT65A Passband is about 355Hz. Bandwidth is about 200Hz.
JT65A may be used in the 500Hz bandwidth segments of bandplans.
Normal operation of JT65A is a sync audio frequency of 1270.5Hz.
Sync tone is the reference mouse-click frequency for JT65.
JT65A signal bandwidth extends about 200Hz above 1270.5Hz sync.
The lowest tone of the JT65 signal is normally 1270Hz.
The system allows approximately +/-600Hz auto-tuning on receive.


WSPR requires that an SSB filter be used and the radio has to be set to 
the specified frequency for that mode.  You can change the bandwidth to 
anything your radio will give you but you can't change the dial 
frequency.  That will change the frequency of the tones and cause the 
decoding to stop.


PSK31 works OK down to 50 Hz bandwidth on my radio.  Although I would 
not recommend tuning around with that bandwidth.  Radio dial frequency 
can be anything that gets the signal in the bandwidth.


Jerry, K4SAV

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Re: Topband: JT65 Power and bandwidth

2017-03-18 Thread Mike Waters
I was wondering about just how narrow we can go on JT9, JT65, or WSPR. I
always believed that reducing it would actually degrade the RX. However,
the User's Guide (first link below) doesn't say that! Apparently, the
reason for a wide RX bandwith --up to 5 kHz-- is simply so that we can see
more signals in the wider waterfall.
physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html

Any more experiences about reducing the bandwith, even below 1300?


And we should encourage using JT9 whenever possible. The reasons are
well-known. Not only is JT9 significantly more sensitive on 160m, but you
can fit 10 JT9 signals in the same bandwidth as one JT65 signal. See
physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx.html

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Mar 18, 2017 1:48 PM, "Dennis W0JX via Topband" 
wrote:

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Regarding bandwidth, it is not necessary to run your SSB filter wide open
for JT65. On my K3, I adjust the width downward to about 1300 Hz. It really
helps with noise and QRM.
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Topband: JT65 Power and bandwidth

2017-03-18 Thread Dennis W0JX via Topband
FCC regs say you should use the minimum power necessary to establish 
communications. That might require more than 100 watts, perhaps even 1500 
depending on conditions, type of TX antenna, etc.

Regarding bandwidth, it is not necessary to run your SSB filter wide open for 
JT65. On my K3, I adjust the width downward to about 1300 Hz. It really helps 
with noise and QRM.

73 Dennis W0JX
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