Re: Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist

I was able to copy OE3DIA last night.  Any time
W6 can copy EU, conditions are at least "good".  He
had a huge pileup going and I didn't work him,
although I only called for a few minutes.
(If I had worked him, then I would say "great"
conditions, HI.)

BTW, I was copying on the TX vertical.  No RX
antennas at this time.

Rick N6RK

On 12/1/2017 2:39 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote:


Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . .

And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
Midwest states . . . brilliant!

However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
stations were active?

I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!

And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
stronger than that, when conditions are good.

(I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before, NO
Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
my RBN reports were way down)

Roger G3YRO


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Re: Topband: 160 inverted L radials question

2017-12-01 Thread Dennis W0JX via Topband
One way to use the current radial field would be to erect a 30 foot piece of 
freestanding  aluminum tube right in the center of the radial field and connect 
a wire to the top of the short vertical for the remaining length. The wire will 
have to slant away from the radial field but a substantial part of the antenna 
, carrying significant current, will be vertical.

This is the approach I use on my 80 meter elevated ground plane. The first 23 
feet is aluminum tubing and the remaining 44 feet slants toward limb on a very 
tall 85 foot dead ash tree. It works very well.

73, Dennis W0JX
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Re: Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
It was the best opening I have heard since getting on FT8.  I have 
missed plenty of nights though.


Here is a map of what was decoded.  That would be calls I decoded and 
stations that decoded my call.


It is interesting to see the opening in this manner.  I did not stay up 
long enough to catch the JA opening.  Those were stations I heard with 
the array pointed at EU so they must have been decent signals.


I tuned CW and did not hear any of the DX spotted.

W0MU


On 12/1/2017 3:39 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote:

Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . .

And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
Midwest states . . . brilliant!

However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
stations were active?

I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!

And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
stronger than that, when conditions are good.

(I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before, NO
Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
my RBN reports were way down)

Roger G3YRO


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Re: Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett

I forgot the link to the map

https://i.imgur.com/EnylEMd.png


On 12/1/2017 3:39 AM, Roger Kennedy wrote:

Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . .

And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
Midwest states . . . brilliant!

However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
stations were active?

I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!

And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
stronger than that, when conditions are good.

(I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before, NO
Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
my RBN reports were way down)

Roger G3YRO


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Re: Topband: Just not the results I'm used to.

2017-12-01 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
The band was open to EU at least on FT8 from Colorado last night.  It is 
the first opening I have been around for.  I worked about 7 stations but 
it took real 160m power even with FT8  most signals were -12 to -22 -24.


I was thrilled.  I still do not believe my circle array has been working 
right.  I just have not had time to work on it with our business move 
which is now finished.


W0MU


On 11/30/2017 10:36 PM, Gary Smith wrote:

I'm just not getting the results I had
when the 160M antenna was put up some 7-8
years ago, not as good as last year
either. I tried running QRP on 160 this
evening, lots of pre-contest activity and
only made three contacts and they were
relatively local. I've always considered
how well I do running QRP as evidence how
my system is doing.


The 35-40 (I don't recall the exact #)
130' radials are still connected, instead
of 360' of the regular coax from previous
years, I now have 7/8" hardline up to the
remote switch. I just replaced the 160
antenna when it came down after sustained
winds. Watt meter is showing the expected
output & SWR is 1.78 at 1.8300

Not asking for answers, surely just has to
be the conditions but I keep wondering if
I need to address something.

Good luck in the contest and have fun!

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread Mark K3MSB
Hi Roger

I would suspect activity.

This weened during the CQ WW CW contest our club worked 86 countries on
15M.  We were running 100W into a 3 element beam.   Nice openings to Africa
and a delightful long path opening to the Pacific around 2100Z Saturday.

The sun spot number was  0.

I commented to my team mates that if there was no contest I doubt you would
have heard any activity on 15M.

Looking forward to this weekend’s festivities…..I heard you calling CQ
last evening but a bunch of stations answered so I moved on down the band.

 73
Mark K3MSB

On Dec 1, 2017 9:03 AM, "Roger Kennedy" 
wrote:

>
> Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . .
>
> And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
> Midwest states . . . brilliant!
>
> However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
> stations were active?
>
> I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
> yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!
>
> And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
> just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
> stronger than that, when conditions are good.
>
> (I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before,
> NO
> Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
> my RBN reports were way down)
>
> Roger G3YRO
>
>
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Re: Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread Tim Shoppa
I was happy to work two “new to me” European callsigns on 160M last night and 
heard many of the EU topband regulars warming up for this weekends contest. 
Seemed decent enough conditions to me.

80M seemed particularly good last night to Asiatic Russia.

Tim N3QE

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 5:39 AM, Roger Kennedy  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . . 
> 
> And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
> Midwest states . . . brilliant!
> 
> However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
> stations were active?
> 
> I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
> yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!
> 
> And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
> just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
> stronger than that, when conditions are good.
> 
> (I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before, NO
> Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
> my RBN reports were way down)
> 
> Roger G3YRO
> 
> 
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Topband: Just not the results I'm used to.

2017-12-01 Thread Gary Smith
I'm just not getting the results I had 
when the 160M antenna was put up some 7-8 
years ago, not as good as last year 
either. I tried running QRP on 160 this 
evening, lots of pre-contest activity and 
only made three contacts and they were 
relatively local. I've always considered 
how well I do running QRP as evidence how 
my system is doing.


The 35-40 (I don't recall the exact #) 
130' radials are still connected, instead 
of 360' of the regular coax from previous 
years, I now have 7/8" hardline up to the 
remote switch. I just replaced the 160 
antenna when it came down after sustained 
winds. Watt meter is showing the expected 
output & SWR is 1.78 at 1.8300

Not asking for answers, surely just has to 
be the conditions but I keep wondering if 
I need to address something.

Good luck in the contest and have fun!

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Re: Topband: FT8 discussion

2017-12-01 Thread VK3HJ

Many people on Top Band want to work DX. Some use digital modes.

Remember there are countries outside the USA (that have different band 
plans). Not everyone has the full 1800 - 2000 kHz to use. For example, inn 
VK we have 1800 - 1875 kHz only.


73,

Luke VK3HJ

-Original Message- 
From: Chuck Dietz

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:09 PM
To: Mike Waters ; Tree
Cc: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: FT8 discussion

I know this has been “Discussed Out,” but I just want to ask why the window 
is in the 1840 area instead of the 1990 area? 


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Topband: Good Conditions or Just Activity?

2017-12-01 Thread Roger Kennedy

Well I came on 160 when I got in from a gig last night, around 23.30Z . . . 

And ended up working 35 NA stations!  Including across to Texas and several
Midwest states . . . brilliant!

However . . . was it good conditions?  Or just the fact that a lot of
stations were active?

I note that my reports from RBN stations were just the same as usual . . .
yet when calling CQ DX it often results in NO replies!

And the stations I worked last night weren't particularly strong - only one
just peaked S9, whereas the "big signals" historically would be much
stronger than that, when conditions are good.

(I also came on again just before sunrise . . . and as I've noted before, NO
Sunrise Peak!  Didn't hear any Europeans work any DX at this time . . . and
my RBN reports were way down)

Roger G3YRO


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Re: Topband: FT8 qrm & Bandplanning History on 160m

2017-12-01 Thread VK3HJ
The 160 m Band Plan was only fairly recently formalised in Australia, a 
decade or so ago.


We have 1800 - 1875 kHz, with the CW sub-band 1810 - 1840 kHz.

The digital narrow band modes seem to have established themselves on 1838 
here with no great problems, but there are few users of the band here.


At their recent meeting, IARU Region III directors agreed to consider how to 
bring the Region III band plans into closer alignment with the Region I and 
II band plans. It will be revisited at the next Region III Conference next 
year. (From TAC Notes by John VK3KM, in December AR).


So this is being looked at in IARU. It would be worthwhile contacting your 
IARU rep with constructive direction regarding Band Plans for 160 m.


From time to time I am irritated by someone testing their AM transmitter in 
the evening on 1825 kHz. There is an AM net in Melbourne at 11 am local on 
that frequency. Had there been any DX of interest around that frequency, I 
may have cause for complaint, but there generally isn't!


I turned off the radio and disconnected antennas here last weekend, due to 
thunderstorms. I will be doing the same this weekend for the same reason. We 
have a major weather event forecast for the east coast over the next three 
days. I have asked my local sawmill about Gopher Wood.


73,

Luke VK3HJ 


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Re: Topband: 160 inverted L radials question

2017-12-01 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Hi, Jimmy,

If the question is whether laying a single 30 foot wire on the ground from
a vertical feedpoint at the ground to the radial center is lossy, it is.
For At least two reasons.

First, a single wire carrying max antenna current is laying on the ground
for 30 feet.

Second, without the low net field device of the vertical wire against
radial wires eminating from the feedpoint, the lowest ten to twenty feet of
vertical loses with an unmitigated induction of lossy ground underneath.

For both the issue is heavy induction causing ground loss.

Either pull the vertical wire at a slant from the center of the existing
radial field, put down a new radial field or go to an elevated counterpoise
at 8 feet or higher. Given the simplicity of an FCP, and that it has worked
well at KP2M, that might free resources for other reconstruction without a
compromise related lossy cost involved.

73, Guy K2AV


On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:08 AM, StellarCAT  wrote:

> Hi folks:Iam in the process to reinstall an inverted L antenna. Due to the
> category 5 hurricane that passthru the island of ST.CROIX usvi i loss 2
> towers
> and antennas.one of the towers use to support and inverted L antenna for
> 160  with radials all over the tower. I will reinstall the  inverted L on a
> different location about 25 or 30 feet away from the original location.my
> question is could i use the same radials from the previous location just
> running one wire attach to the radial system to the new inverted Lground
> section?
> ThanksKP2BH/Jimmy
> _ Jimmy,The replies you are getting seem a bit over the
> top ... forgive me for saying that to those that replied “it won’t work”.
> We’re talking about160 here – so 30’ is what, 0.06 WL’s! I’d do it if that
> is what you can do ... and add to it in the opposite direction... I doubt
> seriously thatyou’re going to see any real disadvantage to doing it in this
> manner. You’ll have decreased losses where you have the more denseground
> field unless you can add to it going in the direction you’re moving it in
> which case it won’t really make that much difference. Gary   K9RX
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