Re: Topband: Thanks
hi guys, you have me confused. 4U1ITU is easy from southern arizona. Bordered by France/Switzerland and Germany all are easily workable. I don't understand the "black hole" comments. Larry -Original Message- From: Wes To: topband Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2019 1:50 Subject: Re: Topband: Thanks Even blacker I think, but with the noise and SSB splatter, who can be sure? Wes N7WS On 2/24/2019 1:25 PM, w...@w5zn.org wrote: > The propagation into Arkansas on 160 meters from 4U1ITU is pretty much a > black > hole. I can only imagine what is like further west > > Joel W5ZN _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Thanks
Even blacker I think, but with the noise and SSB splatter, who can be sure? Wes N7WS On 2/24/2019 1:25 PM, w...@w5zn.org wrote: The propagation into Arkansas on 160 meters from 4U1ITU is pretty much a black hole. I can only imagine what is like further west Joel W5ZN _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Thanks
I hope so and that the operatior can stop EU wall 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W El dom., 24 feb. 2019 a las 12:56, Raymond Benny () escribió: > Tnx for the info. > > Wish someone else could put on 4U1ITU again but perhaps with a little > notice. It's even rarer on the West coast. > > Ray, > N6VR > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 7:01 AM wrote: > > > Last night Dave, K1ZZ, who is in Geneva at the Conference Preparatory > > Meeting in advance of this fall's WRC, was able to fire up 4U1ITU on CW. > > 4U1ITU is still a much needed DXCC entity in North America. Obviously, > > the CQWW 160 SSB contest was this weekend. There is considerable noise > > on 160 meters at 4U1ITU as you can imagine. Not to help matters, once > > the tram fires up in Geneva it adds to the hash noise on the band thus > > the decision to focus on CW rather than struggle even harder with SSB in > > the contest. > > > > Dave chose to operate low in the band, on 1811 KHz initially listening > > up 1, in an effort to avoid as much of the contest traffic as possible. > > Later in the night he shifted to listening down at 1805 KHz to avoid > > some SSB splatter from EU a little higher up. > > > > Dave was able to give about 40 USA stations a new one, mostly from > > around 0500z to 0630z when we had some decent propagation. > > > > During the evening there were around 10 stations that came on 1811, or > > close enough to disrupt the ability to hear 4U1ITU, who were politely > > asked to QSY and everyone did. As someone who needed 4U1ITU for a new > > DXCC on 160, and on behalf of the others, I want to thank you all for > > understanding and being accommodating. It was greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > -- 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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Rich K7ZV was reporting he was hearing Dave very light from his hilltop place in southern OR. He was unable to make the Q. I have a pretty high noise floor at the moment and did not hear anything except a ping or 2 at some 200 miles North of Rich. Sigh, Lee K7TJR OR -Original Message- From: Topband On Behalf Of w...@w5zn.org Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 12:26 PM To: Tree Cc: 160 ; Raymond Benny Subject: Re: Topband: Thanks The propagation into Arkansas on 160 meters from 4U1ITU is pretty much a black hole. I can only imagine what is like further west Joel W5ZN _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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The propagation into Arkansas on 160 meters from 4U1ITU is pretty much a black hole. I can only imagine what is like further west Joel W5ZN On 2019-02-24 11:09, Tree wrote: Back in 1990, I lived about 30 minutes from 4U1ITU and put about 25K QSOs in their log during my 14 month stay. I remember operating the ARRL 160 contest and giving out a few QSOs. They each were like pulling teeth. 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:281 K5NA/2 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:322 W1PH 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:443 K1ZM 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:014 KZ2S 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:195 NK1K 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:216 G0AWF 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:257 K2WI 599 The QTH is no doubt very noisy - even more than before. I don't remember a tram back then. The other issue with the station is the path towards the USA is pretty poor. There are the Jura mountains right in the way. Lake Geneva is nestled between the Jura and the Alps. The QTH I had at home was right against the Alps - and I have better success working the West Coast long path on 40 than I did short path. For us on the West coast - it would take one of those nights where we can work several layers deep into Europe - which is a pretty rare event. Then - that would have to be coupled with someone being focused on the band on the other end. Probably the best hope would be for some European station who is normally active on 160 to be able to commute to the station when they are aware conditions are excellent. This was a possibility when Pierre, HB9AMO was on the band some 30 years ago (Pierre was the first signal I ever heard from Europe back in 1986 from Oregon - I heard "9AMO"). Sadly - that sort of puts it in the same class as working C31 or 3A - which would probably take a DX-pedition to with big antennas to make it out West and focused operating over a two week period during good conditions. Tree N6TR/7 Manning, OR On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:56 AM Raymond Benny wrote: Tnx for the info. Wish someone else could put on 4U1ITU again but perhaps with a little notice. It's even rarer on the West coast. Ray, N6VR On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 7:01 AM wrote: > Last night Dave, K1ZZ, who is in Geneva at the Conference Preparatory > Meeting in advance of this fall's WRC, was able to fire up 4U1ITU on CW. > 4U1ITU is still a much needed DXCC entity in North America. Obviously, > the CQWW 160 SSB contest was this weekend. There is considerable noise > on 160 meters at 4U1ITU as you can imagine. Not to help matters, once > the tram fires up in Geneva it adds to the hash noise on the band thus > the decision to focus on CW rather than struggle even harder with SSB in > the contest. > > Dave chose to operate low in the band, on 1811 KHz initially listening > up 1, in an effort to avoid as much of the contest traffic as possible. > Later in the night he shifted to listening down at 1805 KHz to avoid > some SSB splatter from EU a little higher up. > > Dave was able to give about 40 USA stations a new one, mostly from > around 0500z to 0630z when we had some decent propagation. > > During the evening there were around 10 stations that came on 1811, or > close enough to disrupt the ability to hear 4U1ITU, who were politely > asked to QSY and everyone did. As someone who needed 4U1ITU for a new > DXCC on 160, and on behalf of the others, I want to thank you all for > understanding and being accommodating. It was greatly appreciated. > > Thanks again. > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: T31EU on 160 - It's pretty easy.......
Hi All Russian supermen show records : https://clublog.org/charts/?c=T31EU 86 QSOs with Europe at 160 m. 72 QSOs of this belongs to Russia ! The best team of WEB SDR from Lipetsk : RU3GB, UA3GT, RU3GF, UC5G, UA3GAF, UA3GFX. ARRL Awards Committee - you will have a lot of work :-(( Nick, UY0ZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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Back in 1990, I lived about 30 minutes from 4U1ITU and put about 25K QSOs in their log during my 14 month stay. I remember operating the ARRL 160 contest and giving out a few QSOs. They each were like pulling teeth. 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:281 K5NA/2 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:322 W1PH 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 05:443 K1ZM 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:014 KZ2S 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:195 NK1K 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:216 G0AWF 599 160CW 1-Dec-90 06:257 K2WI 599 The QTH is no doubt very noisy - even more than before. I don't remember a tram back then. The other issue with the station is the path towards the USA is pretty poor. There are the Jura mountains right in the way. Lake Geneva is nestled between the Jura and the Alps. The QTH I had at home was right against the Alps - and I have better success working the West Coast long path on 40 than I did short path. For us on the West coast - it would take one of those nights where we can work several layers deep into Europe - which is a pretty rare event. Then - that would have to be coupled with someone being focused on the band on the other end. Probably the best hope would be for some European station who is normally active on 160 to be able to commute to the station when they are aware conditions are excellent. This was a possibility when Pierre, HB9AMO was on the band some 30 years ago (Pierre was the first signal I ever heard from Europe back in 1986 from Oregon - I heard "9AMO"). Sadly - that sort of puts it in the same class as working C31 or 3A - which would probably take a DX-pedition to with big antennas to make it out West and focused operating over a two week period during good conditions. Tree N6TR/7 Manning, OR On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 7:56 AM Raymond Benny wrote: > Tnx for the info. > > Wish someone else could put on 4U1ITU again but perhaps with a little > notice. It's even rarer on the West coast. > > Ray, > N6VR > > > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 7:01 AM wrote: > > > Last night Dave, K1ZZ, who is in Geneva at the Conference Preparatory > > Meeting in advance of this fall's WRC, was able to fire up 4U1ITU on CW. > > 4U1ITU is still a much needed DXCC entity in North America. Obviously, > > the CQWW 160 SSB contest was this weekend. There is considerable noise > > on 160 meters at 4U1ITU as you can imagine. Not to help matters, once > > the tram fires up in Geneva it adds to the hash noise on the band thus > > the decision to focus on CW rather than struggle even harder with SSB in > > the contest. > > > > Dave chose to operate low in the band, on 1811 KHz initially listening > > up 1, in an effort to avoid as much of the contest traffic as possible. > > Later in the night he shifted to listening down at 1805 KHz to avoid > > some SSB splatter from EU a little higher up. > > > > Dave was able to give about 40 USA stations a new one, mostly from > > around 0500z to 0630z when we had some decent propagation. > > > > During the evening there were around 10 stations that came on 1811, or > > close enough to disrupt the ability to hear 4U1ITU, who were politely > > asked to QSY and everyone did. As someone who needed 4U1ITU for a new > > DXCC on 160, and on behalf of the others, I want to thank you all for > > understanding and being accommodating. It was greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks again. > > > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
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Tnx for the info. Wish someone else could put on 4U1ITU again but perhaps with a little notice. It's even rarer on the West coast. Ray, N6VR On Sun, Feb 24, 2019, 7:01 AM wrote: > Last night Dave, K1ZZ, who is in Geneva at the Conference Preparatory > Meeting in advance of this fall's WRC, was able to fire up 4U1ITU on CW. > 4U1ITU is still a much needed DXCC entity in North America. Obviously, > the CQWW 160 SSB contest was this weekend. There is considerable noise > on 160 meters at 4U1ITU as you can imagine. Not to help matters, once > the tram fires up in Geneva it adds to the hash noise on the band thus > the decision to focus on CW rather than struggle even harder with SSB in > the contest. > > Dave chose to operate low in the band, on 1811 KHz initially listening > up 1, in an effort to avoid as much of the contest traffic as possible. > Later in the night he shifted to listening down at 1805 KHz to avoid > some SSB splatter from EU a little higher up. > > Dave was able to give about 40 USA stations a new one, mostly from > around 0500z to 0630z when we had some decent propagation. > > During the evening there were around 10 stations that came on 1811, or > close enough to disrupt the ability to hear 4U1ITU, who were politely > asked to QSY and everyone did. As someone who needed 4U1ITU for a new > DXCC on 160, and on behalf of the others, I want to thank you all for > understanding and being accommodating. It was greatly appreciated. > > Thanks again. > > 73 Joel W5ZN > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Thanks
Last night Dave, K1ZZ, who is in Geneva at the Conference Preparatory Meeting in advance of this fall's WRC, was able to fire up 4U1ITU on CW. 4U1ITU is still a much needed DXCC entity in North America. Obviously, the CQWW 160 SSB contest was this weekend. There is considerable noise on 160 meters at 4U1ITU as you can imagine. Not to help matters, once the tram fires up in Geneva it adds to the hash noise on the band thus the decision to focus on CW rather than struggle even harder with SSB in the contest. Dave chose to operate low in the band, on 1811 KHz initially listening up 1, in an effort to avoid as much of the contest traffic as possible. Later in the night he shifted to listening down at 1805 KHz to avoid some SSB splatter from EU a little higher up. Dave was able to give about 40 USA stations a new one, mostly from around 0500z to 0630z when we had some decent propagation. During the evening there were around 10 stations that came on 1811, or close enough to disrupt the ability to hear 4U1ITU, who were politely asked to QSY and everyone did. As someone who needed 4U1ITU for a new DXCC on 160, and on behalf of the others, I want to thank you all for understanding and being accommodating. It was greatly appreciated. Thanks again. 73 Joel W5ZN _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
