Re: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread Rob Atkinson
There are a number of ways of making a ball gap.  but more important
is arriving at the correct spacing for the gap.
The way rain is handled is usually by positioning the balls one above
the other so a water bridge doesn't form between the balls.

Read this by Mark Persons:
https://www.radioworld.com/tech-and-gear/understanding-arc-gaps-for-am-systems
Here's another treatment:
https://www.thebdr.net/articles/steel/twrs/LimitingStatic.pdf
Kintronic sells them
https://www.kintronic.com/shop/tower-ball-gap/

73
Rob
K5UJ
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Re: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread Lloyd - N9LB
See:  
https://www.qrz.com/DB/w9gl
( scroll down to 3rd picture )

Copper float balls available at any hardware, home improvement or plumbing 
supply store.



-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Blaine
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2019 1:28 PM
To: topband 
Subject: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

I need to add a spark gap of some sort onto my full-size 160m insulated-base 
tower.  Looking for ideas.

Making the spark gap is simple.  What has me asking for ideas is the weather 
element - we have a lot of snow, ice, rain here and a spark gap needs to keep 
that stuff off.  But put a little cover over it, right? Well, yes but if the 
cover is not fully enclosed, then you have wasps and spiders making nests 
there.  If it's enclosed, then you have condensation and ants.

I like the idea of W8JI's two balls close to each other - the surface area is 
large so accumulated pitting won't change the spacing and thus the BDV much.  
And the water will drain off away from the contact points.  But what does a guy 
make that out of if he does not have a set of brass balls in his junkbox.

73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com


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Re: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread donovanf
Just purchase them, they're not expensive. For example: 


www.antiquelampsupply.com/3-8-dia-brass-ball-tap-6-32f.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_auMy7GI5QIVho7ICh2C4wEvEAQYAyABEgJFGPD_BwE
 


73 
Frank 
W3LPL 

- Original Message -

From: "Jeff Blaine"  
To: "topband"  
Sent: Sunday, October 6, 2019 6:27:58 PM 
Subject: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower 

I need to add a spark gap of some sort onto my full-size 160m 
insulated-base tower. Looking for ideas. 

Making the spark gap is simple. What has me asking for ideas is the 
weather element - we have a lot of snow, ice, rain here and a spark gap 
needs to keep that stuff off. But put a little cover over it, right? 
Well, yes but if the cover is not fully enclosed, then you have wasps 
and spiders making nests there. If it's enclosed, then you have 
condensation and ants. 

I like the idea of W8JI's two balls close to each other - the surface 
area is large so accumulated pitting won't change the spacing and thus 
the BDV much. And the water will drain off away from the contact 
points. But what does a guy make that out of if he does not have a set 
of brass balls in his junkbox. 

73/jeff/ac0c 
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie 
www.ac0c.com 


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Re: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread Wes

Spark has been prohibited since 1934. :-)

On 10/6/2019 11:27 AM, Jeff Blaine wrote:
I need to add a spark gap of some sort onto my full-size 160m insulated-base 
tower.  Looking for ideas.


Making the spark gap is simple.  What has me asking for ideas is the weather 
element - we have a lot of snow, ice, rain here and a spark gap needs to keep 
that stuff off.  But put a little cover over it, right?  Well, yes but if the 
cover is not fully enclosed, then you have wasps and spiders making nests 
there.  If it's enclosed, then you have condensation and ants.


I like the idea of W8JI's two balls close to each other - the surface area is 
large so accumulated pitting won't change the spacing and thus the BDV much.  
And the water will drain off away from the contact points.  But what does a 
guy make that out of if he does not have a set of brass balls in his junkbox.


73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com


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Re: Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread JAYB1943
Hi Jeff – try toilet tank float balls..I think I have still seen them around 
in Copper ...73 jay NY2NY 
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Topband: spark gap construction ideas for 160m tower

2019-10-06 Thread Jeff Blaine
I need to add a spark gap of some sort onto my full-size 160m 
insulated-base tower.  Looking for ideas.


Making the spark gap is simple.  What has me asking for ideas is the 
weather element - we have a lot of snow, ice, rain here and a spark gap 
needs to keep that stuff off.  But put a little cover over it, right?  
Well, yes but if the cover is not fully enclosed, then you have wasps 
and spiders making nests there.  If it's enclosed, then you have 
condensation and ants.


I like the idea of W8JI's two balls close to each other - the surface 
area is large so accumulated pitting won't change the spacing and thus 
the BDV much.  And the water will drain off away from the contact 
points.  But what does a guy make that out of if he does not have a set 
of brass balls in his junkbox.


73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com


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Topband: RFI & What to do about it

2019-10-06 Thread Mark Schoonover
Following up from the heater RFI thread earlier this week, my RFI video is
posted:

https://ka6wke.net/videos/rfi-and-what-to-do-about-it/

73! Mark KA6WKE

Website: https://www.ka6wke.net
YouTube Live!: https://bit.ly/bench-therapy-live
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