Re: Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread Steve Maki

On 07/06/20 16:53 PM, K4SAV wrote:

It's 
easy to remember the old days, but not so easy sometimes to remember 
that now those listings are no longer allowed.


It's the short term memory that goes first :-)

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Re: Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread Mike Waters
Hi Jerry (et. al.),

Yes, let's have some updated selling guidelines. Reasonable ones. And as
someone nicely pointed out, there are well-established websites (like
qrz.com or qth.com) if you want to sell your antique Morse code key or your
multiband linear.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed to me that:

1. Someone offered something for sale that was mainly of interest to
Topbanders. A famous Topbander (W8JI) designed it with Topbanders in mind.
I believe that ON4UN tacitly agreed by including it in his book.

2. However, that was quickly followed by more For Sale items that were *not*.
Those posts became the *real* issue, and nothing further would have been
said about the DXE NCC-1 *if* the other FS items had not followed.

3. There was nothing wrong with the NCC-1 listing, since so many Topbanders
either own or would love to own one. Right? (Rhetorical question.) This
entire issue erupted with the subsequent FS posts.

IMHO, *a few* *160m-specific* items --that would definitely interest a fair
number of us-- should be allowed here. (Some examples might be Beverage
antenna control boxes, 160m RX arrays, or even an occasional monoband
amplifier or filter, either RX or TX.) Any further communications about
such items should be off-reflector, except for an "Item is Sold" post.

Now, I hear what everyone is thinking: *it could get out of hand*. Well, if
and when that happens, then Tree --perhaps with other longtime Topband
Gentlemen™ here-- will address that for us in the future (which has not yet
arrived).

But let's speculate a little ...
 - Let's say there were too many matching transformers, etc. this
quarter? *Then
disallow items under a certain value.*
 - Many items for sale that are from newbies? *Then only allow long-time
members to sell items.*
* - *We could even disallow listings that include "Other items for sale,
contact me for a complete list".

It goes without saying that commercial FS listings have never been allowed,
and that's probably the way it should continue to be.

In summary: allowing an occasional FS item (as outlined above) is not going
to turn this fine reflector into a little qth.com.

This is my one-time $0.02 worth about this. I did not intend for it to be
an all-or-nothing or all-inclusive list; I only intended for this to be a
starting point for others to build on, if someone desires to. No private
replies please, they will be deleted (unless you are Tree. :-)

73, Mike
W0BTU

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 3:16 PM K4SAV  wrote:

> I just looked thru a bunch of old Topband messages and found 130
> messages pertaining to FOR SALE items.  Many of those were when the
> forum was under different management however.  Perhaps it is time to
> reissue the guidelines on FOR SALE  items.
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Re: Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread Tree
There is of course the "Info Page" that has addressed this for many years
(before I took over - so don't blame me):

http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband

"*Please do not post general topics like equipment wanted/for sale, work me
in the contest, E-mail addresses needed, etc.*"

Thanks!  Back to listening to 1610 kHz.

Tree



On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 1:55 PM K4SAV  wrote:

> On 7/6/2020 3:38 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Tree already posted that ads are not allowed on this list. The OP
> > apologized and promised to not do it again. Some lists do allow
> > relevant ads. Etiquette requires us to ask first.
> >
> > /relurk
> >
> Yes and I even read that message from Tree and it did not register when
> I wrote my message.  Many people that have been on this list for a long
> time probably remember when for sale listings were even encouraged.
> It's easy to remember the old days, but not so easy sometimes to
> remember that now those listings are no longer allowed.
>
> Jerry, K4SAV
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Re: Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread K4SAV

On 7/6/2020 3:38 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi,

Tree already posted that ads are not allowed on this list. The OP 
apologized and promised to not do it again. Some lists do allow 
relevant ads. Etiquette requires us to ask first.


/relurk

Yes and I even read that message from Tree and it did not register when 
I wrote my message.  Many people that have been on this list for a long 
time probably remember when for sale listings were even encouraged.  
It's easy to remember the old days, but not so easy sometimes to 
remember that now those listings are no longer allowed.


Jerry, K4SAV

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Re: Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread Bill Cromwell

Hi,

Tree already posted that ads are not allowed on this list. The OP 
apologized and promised to not do it again. Some lists do allow relevant 
ads. Etiquette requires us to ask first.


/relurk

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Topband: For sale?

2020-07-06 Thread K4SAV
I just looked thru a bunch of old Topband messages and found 130 
messages pertaining to FOR SALE items.  Many of those were when the 
forum was under different management however.  Perhaps it is time to 
reissue the guidelines on FOR SALE  items.


Jerry, K4SAV
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Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

2020-07-06 Thread STEVE DANIEL
Well Dave it might be because that sort of tech has a limited audience. And 
lowband DXers are the prime audience. What's the harm? Steve, NN4T
> On 07/06/2020 2:30 PM daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote:
> 
>  
> Why do people insist on listing items for sale on this reflector?  Is it 
> that damn difficult to sell your stuff on QTH.com, eBay, etc.?
> 
> 73. . . Dave, W0FLS
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: ws6x@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 10:06 AM
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale
> 
> The NCC-1 is sold.
> (Sorry, Tree. Won't happen again!)
> Jim - WS6X
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Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

2020-07-06 Thread Renee K6FSB
well in this case it appeared to be targeted and rightly so IMO to those 
of us on topband. you have a delete button yes then.
I have said too much.and this will drag on for ever if we all make 
comments.

Renée, K6FSB

On 7/6/20 12:30 PM, daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote:
Why do people insist on listing items for sale on this reflector?  Is 
it that damn difficult to sell your stuff on QTH.com, eBay, etc.?


73. . . Dave, W0FLS

-Original Message- From: ws6x@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 10:06 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

The NCC-1 is sold.
(Sorry, Tree. Won't happen again!)
Jim - WS6X

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Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

2020-07-06 Thread daraymond
Why do people insist on listing items for sale on this reflector?  Is it 
that damn difficult to sell your stuff on QTH.com, eBay, etc.?


73. . . Dave, W0FLS

-Original Message- 
From: ws6x@gmail.com

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 10:06 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

The NCC-1 is sold.
(Sorry, Tree. Won't happen again!)
Jim - WS6X

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Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale

2020-07-06 Thread ws6x.ars
The NCC-1 is sold.
(Sorry, Tree. Won't happen again!)
Jim - WS6X

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