Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Bill Cromwell]

Hi Bob,

Well I'm getting old so laundry is already a daytime chore. With just 
the two of us here and the covid out there laundry is less demanding. I 
just have to keep us in clean pajamas.


I was prepared to go into the new machines to install any needed 
partsvbut mine are behaving without that effort. Big signs on them say 
Made in the USA so maybe they already have the parts installed. I 
suppose I did pay a little more for them.


There are microcontrollers in just about everything these days - even 
toasters and coffee pots. We have to learn how to live with them whether 
we want to or not.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 4:21 PM, Robert Urban wrote:

Just discovered today, our new LG dryer wipes out the 160m band.
Washing clothes will have to be a daytime activity here.
Bob W9EWZ

On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Cromwell > wrote:


I have a large selection of tools and many decades of experience
wielding them. Some of my habits and attitudes I learned in the Navy
and
I assure that *nothing* is sailor-proof:)

73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 1:39 PM, Hugh Valentine wrote:
 > Beware!  A non Ham, Ham Widow, invented the electronics on the
dryers.
 >
 > There are designed to aggravate the low bands….specifically.
 >
 > Only two things can be done to cure the issue:
 >
 >  1. Beg for forgiveness and take the YL or XYL to the Jewelery (
this is
 >     only a Temporary cure).
 >  2. Operate the machine yourself (it can sense) and commit to do
all the
 >     Laundry in your house for 5 years or until you get out of Ham
 >     Radio.  There is a sensor that is infallible and can tell
when the
 >     Ham Licensed operator is at least 3 weeks ahead of the
QRN/RFI curve.
 >
 > Proceed accordingly….
 >
 > The patented algorithm crosses all makes and models and there is no
 > bypass….There is no escape.
 >
 > Val
 >
 > N4RJ
 >
 > Sent from Mail  for
 > Windows 10
 >
 > *From: *Bill Cromwell >
 > *Sent: *Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM
 > *To: *topband@contesting.com 
>
 > *Subject: *Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI
 >
 > Hi Joe,
 >
 > Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was
concerned
 > my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they
apparently
 > don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch
controls for
 > the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. They are
 > Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the hash:) I
 > mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters in
the mix.
 >
 > I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in
computers
 > here. It can be done.
 >
 > 73,
 >
 > Bill  KU8H
 >
 > bark less - wag more
 >
 > On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:
 >  > Steve,
 >  >
 >  > I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's
 > running. I have not checked on every band but I know it makes
noise on
 > 40 meters.  My noise level rises an S unit or so with RF hash
when it's
 > running.
 >  >
 >  > Joe
 >  > N3HEE
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >> On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband
 > mailto:topband@contesting.com>> wrote:
 >  >>
 >  >>
 >  >> Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes
Dryer? Any
 > RFI detected 160-6m?
 >  >>
 >  >> Please reply off list only.
 >  >>
 >  >> TU & 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Jeff Blaine]

I have a DLEX357OV front loading LG here.  About 3 years old? It's quit 
as far as I know although my antennas are about 250' from the house, and 
I put 3 big clamp-on type 31 ferrites at the cable exit from the dryer 
just as a token preventative.


73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com


On 11/21/20 1:52 PM, donro...@hiwaay.net wrote:

Amy other "RFI kit" experiences ?

I'm looking to replace a 5 ton R22 heat pump system.

Don W4DNR



Quoting Rick Kunath via Topband :

I also had 2 Trane air conditioning compressors and air handler/gas 
furnaces installed to replace failing older systems, all variable 
speed. I had contacted Trane about the RFI kits on both of the 
compressor units and both of the air handlers before I bought them. 
They installed these RFI kits for free and my installation company 
put those kits in at their shop before they came out and did the 
install. Also nice and quiet.


Rick Kunath, K9AO


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Topband: 7Q7RU heard and worked last night hr in central Ohio

[W3HKK]

Saw spots but didnt hear a peep UNTIL 0120z last night through l about
0235 ( his sunrise) when he dropped out. Saw mni spots earlier from
East Coast and ulf Coast stations but never hears the & until last
night. Three calls and he came back.

During that hour, slow QSB took him from noise level up to S5-6 at
times 

He was easier to work right about when he started coming in to Ohio.
As time passed the midwest pileup grew and he became more erratic in
his listening characteristics...ie staying on the same general freq
less, and jumping around more.

Ant: SAL30 rx antenna.
Tx Ant: 52 ft high 1/4 wave INV-L with 26 x 70 ft radials.

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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[donroden]

Amy other "RFI kit" experiences ?

I'm looking to replace a 5 ton R22 heat pump system.

Don W4DNR



Quoting Rick Kunath via Topband :

I also had 2 Trane air conditioning compressors and air handler/gas  
furnaces installed to replace failing older systems, all variable  
speed. I had contacted Trane about the RFI kits on both of the  
compressor units and both of the air handlers before I bought them.  
They installed these RFI kits for free and my installation company  
put those kits in at their shop before they came out and did the  
install. Also nice and quiet.


Rick Kunath, K9AO


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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Bill Cromwell]

Hi,

I operate the washer and dryer and yes I do remove the fuzz from the 
lint trap:)


I also do most of the other "house work". The XYL is sliding ever slowly 
deeper into Alzheimer's. I have her do as much as she can and when she 
can. Lots of good days left.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 2:24 PM, Mark - N5OT wrote:
Bill, you might check with your wife.  I bet she is cleaning the dryer's 
filter every time she uses it which might explain why you can't find the 
hash.


73 - Mark N5OT


On 11/21/2020 10:18 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was 
concerned my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they 
apparently don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch 
controls for the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. 
They are Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the 
hash:) I mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters 
in the mix.


I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in 
computers here. It can be done.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:

Steve,

I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's 
running. I have not checked on every band but I know it makes noise 
on 40 meters.  My noise level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when 
it's running.


Joe
N3HEE


On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband 
 wrote:


  Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? 
Any RFI detected 160-6m?


Please reply off list only.

TU & 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Rick Kunath via Topband]

I have a Whirlpool front loading washer and dryer here. I had the 
factory send a technician out and they installed the RFI suppression kit 
on both of them. They argued a bit with me about the installation and 
the cost of the parts. As I left it I paid for the kit and they did the 
install for free on both units. I can just barely hear the fact that 
they're running if I really listen and I am using an indoor loop. 
Outside I hear no difference. The service technician also told me that 
on these modern dryers unless you're going right from the vent outlet 
through the wall behind the dryer you need a booster blower inline. My 
dryer vents through a rooftop vent so I installed a blower-type booster 
inline with the vent in the attic. That made a huge difference in the 
dryer run time. It's pressure sensing so you install it and forget it. 
It comes with a small panel display you can mount if you want to and 
that lets you know it's started or if you ever need to clean it (I have 
never had to do that).


I also had 2 Trane air conditioning compressors and air handler/gas 
furnaces installed to replace failing older systems, all variable speed. 
I had contacted Trane about the RFI kits on both of the compressor units 
and both of the air handlers before I bought them. They installed these 
RFI kits for free and my installation company put those kits in at their 
shop before they came out and did the install. Also nice and quiet.


Rick Kunath, K9AO

On 11/21/2020 2:24 PM, Mark - N5OT wrote:
Bill, you might check with your wife.  I bet she is cleaning the 
dryer's filter every time she uses it which might explain why you 
can't find the hash.


73 - Mark N5OT


On 11/21/2020 10:18 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was 
concerned my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they 
apparently don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch 
controls for the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. 
They are Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the 
hash:) I mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters 
in the mix.


I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in 
computers here. It can be done.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:

Steve,

I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's 
running. I have not checked on every band but I know it makes noise 
on 40 meters.  My noise level rises an S unit or so with RF hash 
when it's running.


Joe
N3HEE


On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband 
 wrote:


  Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? 
Any RFI detected 160-6m?


Please reply off list only.

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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Bill Cromwell]

I have a large selection of tools and many decades of experience 
wielding them. Some of my habits and attitudes I learned in the Navy and 
I assure that *nothing* is sailor-proof:)


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 1:39 PM, Hugh Valentine wrote:

Beware!  A non Ham, Ham Widow, invented the electronics on the dryers.

There are designed to aggravate the low bands….specifically.

Only two things can be done to cure the issue:

 1. Beg for forgiveness and take the YL or XYL to the Jewelery ( this is
only a Temporary cure).
 2. Operate the machine yourself (it can sense) and commit to do all the
Laundry in your house for 5 years or until you get out of Ham
Radio.  There is a sensor that is infallible and can tell when the
Ham Licensed operator is at least 3 weeks ahead of the QRN/RFI curve.

Proceed accordingly….

The patented algorithm crosses all makes and models and there is no 
bypass….There is no escape.


Val

N4RJ

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*From: *Bill Cromwell 
*Sent: *Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM
*To: *topband@contesting.com 
*Subject: *Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was concerned
my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they apparently
don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch controls for
the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. They are
Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the hash:) I
mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters in the mix.

I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in computers
here. It can be done.

73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:
 > Steve,
 >
 > I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's 
running. I have not checked on every band but I know it makes noise on 
40 meters.  My noise level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when it's 
running.

 >
 > Joe
 > N3HEE
 >
 >
 >> On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband 
 wrote:

 >>
 >>
 >> Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? Any 
RFI detected 160-6m?

 >>
 >> Please reply off list only.
 >>
 >> TU & 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Mark - N5OT]

Bill, you might check with your wife.  I bet she is cleaning the dryer's 
filter every time she uses it which might explain why you can't find the 
hash.


73 - Mark N5OT


On 11/21/2020 10:18 AM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was 
concerned my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they 
apparently don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch 
controls for the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. 
They are Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the 
hash:) I mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters 
in the mix.


I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in 
computers here. It can be done.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:

Steve,

I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's 
running. I have not checked on every band but I know it makes noise 
on 40 meters.  My noise level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when 
it's running.


Joe
N3HEE


On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband 
 wrote:


  Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? 
Any RFI detected 160-6m?


Please reply off list only.

TU & 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Hugh Valentine]

Beware!  A non Ham, Ham Widow, invented the electronics on the dryers.

There are designed to aggravate the low bands….specifically.

Only two things can be done to cure the issue:

  1.  Beg for forgiveness and take the YL or XYL to the Jewelery ( this is only 
a Temporary cure).
  2.  Operate the machine yourself (it can sense) and commit to do all the 
Laundry in your house for 5 years or until you get out of Ham Radio.  There is 
a sensor that is infallible and can tell when the Ham Licensed operator is at 
least 3 weeks ahead of the QRN/RFI curve.
Proceed accordingly….

The patented algorithm crosses all makes and models and there is no 
bypass….There is no escape.
Val

N4RJ


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bill Cromwell
Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was concerned
my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they apparently
don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch controls for
the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. They are
Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the hash:) I
mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters in the mix.

I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in computers
here. It can be done.

73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's running. I have 
> not checked on every band but I know it makes noise on 40 meters.  My noise 
> level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when it's running.
>
> Joe
> N3HEE
>
>
>> On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? Any RFI 
>> detected 160-6m?
>>
>> Please reply off list only.
>>
>> TU & 73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Bill Cromwell]

Hi Joe,

Have you tried to do anything about the dryer? Filters? I was concerned 
my clothes dryer and washing machine might do that but they apparently 
don't. My poor dear wife cannot grasp operating the touch controls for 
the microcontrollers in those machines. They are not LG. They are 
Maytag. Maybe I am just looking  in the wrong places for the hash:) I 
mostly use 80, 40, and 30 meters with some 160 and 17 meters in the mix.


I have had occasion to tame some switch mode power supplies in computers 
here. It can be done.


73,

Bill  KU8H

bark less - wag more

On 11/21/20 10:39 AM, Joe Galicic wrote:

Steve,

I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's running. I have 
not checked on every band but I know it makes noise on 40 meters.  My noise 
level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when it's running.

Joe
N3HEE



On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband  wrote:

  
Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? Any RFI detected 160-6m?


Please reply off list only.

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Re: Topband: OT - LG Dryer RFI

[Joe Galicic]

Steve, 

I have a LG DLE-7300WE clothes dryer that makes RFI when it's running. I have 
not checked on every band but I know it makes noise on 40 meters.  My noise 
level rises an S unit or so with RF hash when it's running. 

Joe
N3HEE


> On 11/20/2020 5:12 PM Steve Lawrence via Topband  
> wrote:
> 
>  
> Please excuse the OT. Anyone using an LG DLG7301 Clothes Dryer? Any RFI 
> detected 160-6m?
> 
> Please reply off list only.
> 
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