Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread Jim Brown

On 7/6/2023 12:53 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:

The reader's digest version is that you can minimize the learning
curve by using a single action paddle.  This largely eliminates iambic
action (which you won't miss), even if the keyer supposedly supports
iambic.


Great advice. Especially with keyers that won't let you turn Iambic off!

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread Mark Lunday
Sorry, wrong link

http://www.schulheft-ottakring.eu/vane/afu/cw/CW%20Literatur/Banana%20Boat%20Swing.pdf

Mark Lunday
wd4...@outlook.com

From: Topband  on behalf of 
Mark Lunday 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 6:42 PM
To: Stephen Hawkins ; topband@contesting.com 

Subject: Re: Topband: Bugs

Steve

I have not heard that term in a very long time.

Interesting article on "banana boat swing"


From: Topband  on behalf of 
Stephen Hawkins 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 5:40 PM
To: topband@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: Bugs

All this talk about Bugs caused a phrase submerged deep in my brain to
come quietly to the surface.  50+ years ago I was a Navy Radioman.
However I was a Radioman on a Submarine. In 2.5 years I maybe sent 5
messages as we were almost always on radio silence.  We could
occasionally  listen for other then official traffic.  I would sometimes
listen to commercial ship to shore traffic from Merchant ships.  If
memory servers me correctly Merchant radio officers back then were
required to use a Bug.  A few of them had what my Chief Radioman called,
a "Banana Boat Swing".  Music once you got used to it. Boy that was 50
years ago and I have not thought of that term, or heard it used in a
very, very long time.

Steve NG0G


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Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread Mark Lunday
Steve

I have not heard that term in a very long time.

Interesting article on "banana boat swing"

http://www.9h1mrl.org/ukrae/arc_cd/extra/morse/html/c15.htm

Mark Lunday
wd4...@outlook.com

From: Topband  on behalf of 
Stephen Hawkins 
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 5:40 PM
To: topband@contesting.com 
Subject: Re: Topband: Bugs

All this talk about Bugs caused a phrase submerged deep in my brain to
come quietly to the surface.  50+ years ago I was a Navy Radioman.
However I was a Radioman on a Submarine. In 2.5 years I maybe sent 5
messages as we were almost always on radio silence.  We could
occasionally  listen for other then official traffic.  I would sometimes
listen to commercial ship to shore traffic from Merchant ships.  If
memory servers me correctly Merchant radio officers back then were
required to use a Bug.  A few of them had what my Chief Radioman called,
a "Banana Boat Swing".  Music once you got used to it. Boy that was 50
years ago and I have not thought of that term, or heard it used in a
very, very long time.

Steve NG0G

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Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread Stephen Hawkins
All this talk about Bugs caused a phrase submerged deep in my brain to 
come quietly to the surface.  50+ years ago I was a Navy Radioman.  
However I was a Radioman on a Submarine. In 2.5 years I maybe sent 5 
messages as we were almost always on radio silence.  We could 
occasionally  listen for other then official traffic.  I would sometimes 
listen to commercial ship to shore traffic from Merchant ships.  If 
memory servers me correctly Merchant radio officers back then were 
required to use a Bug.  A few of them had what my Chief Radioman called, 
a "Banana Boat Swing".  Music once you got used to it. Boy that was 50 
years ago and I have not thought of that term, or heard it used in a 
very, very long time.


Steve NG0G

On 7/6/23 2:53 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:

On 7/6/2023 10:38 AM, w3...@roadrunner.com wrote:

I stepped up to a keyer from my Lightning Bug in the early 90s' but
could never get the hang of both. My fist kept wanting to do the bug
W3HKK (since 1956)


First of all:  "its not your fault"

There are many different keyers available, and then there are
single and dual action paddles.  Some keyers have multiple
personalities to choose from.   This is a huge topic to
try to wrap your mind around.

The reader's digest version is that you can minimize the learning
curve by using a single action paddle.  This largely eliminates iambic
action (which you won't miss), even if the keyer supposedly supports
iambic.  Some built in keyers in rigs have an option to select
"A" or "B" iambic type.  On one rig I had, I absolutely could not
send with one of these selections, but the other one worked
fine for me.  On my current rig, A and B seem to be the same.
I only use a single action paddle (IE, "dot" and "dash" are
mutually exclusive).

Hope this helps.

73
Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist

On 7/6/2023 10:38 AM, w3...@roadrunner.com wrote:

I stepped up to a keyer from my Lightning Bug in the early 90s' but
could never get the hang of both. My fist kept wanting to do the bug
W3HKK (since 1956)


First of all:  "its not your fault"

There are many different keyers available, and then there are
single and dual action paddles.  Some keyers have multiple
personalities to choose from.   This is a huge topic to
try to wrap your mind around.

The reader's digest version is that you can minimize the learning
curve by using a single action paddle.  This largely eliminates iambic
action (which you won't miss), even if the keyer supposedly supports
iambic.  Some built in keyers in rigs have an option to select
"A" or "B" iambic type.  On one rig I had, I absolutely could not
send with one of these selections, but the other one worked
fine for me.  On my current rig, A and B seem to be the same.
I only use a single action paddle (IE, "dot" and "dash" are
mutually exclusive).

Hope this helps.

73
Rick N6RK

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Re: Topband: Bugs

2023-07-06 Thread W3HKK
I stepped up to a keyer from my Lightning Bug in the early 90s' but
could never get the hang of both. My fist kept wanting to do the bug
thing. And so I found a keyer exceedingly frustrating and sold it.
Now Im either keyboarding or using the bug ( which I find best for rag
chewing). 

Bob
W3HKK (since 1956)
ex: F7AL-5A3TG-9G1GS-ON8UD-W3HKK/PY8, W3HKK/PS7

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