Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale
Well Dave it might be because that sort of tech has a limited audience. And lowband DXers are the prime audience. What's the harm? Steve, NN4T > On 07/06/2020 2:30 PM daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote: > > > Why do people insist on listing items for sale on this reflector? Is it > that damn difficult to sell your stuff on QTH.com, eBay, etc.? > > 73. . . Dave, W0FLS > > -Original Message- > From: ws6x@gmail.com > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2020 10:06 AM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: DXE NCC-1 for Sale > > The NCC-1 is sold. > (Sorry, Tree. Won't happen again!) > Jim - WS6X > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: Remote operation
Good morning. I wrote this in October 2019 in response to a thread on this site. A ghost in the machine, perhaps! 73, Steve > On February 7, 2020 at 11:29 PM daraym...@iowatelecom.net wrote: > > > Steve. . . "beating this dead horse." You're the one that brought it up. . > .hi. Also, if you waiting in anticipation of the "approaching low band > season" I regret to inform you it's half over. 73. . . Dave, W0FLS > > -Original Message- > From: STEVE DANIEL > Sent: Friday, February 07, 2020 9:31 PM > To: topband@contesting.com > Subject: Topband: Remote operation > > > Let's see. It has been at least five years since RHR's "remote operation for > the masses" hit the air waves. After several years of hand-wringing, teeth > gnashing and proclamations that the amateur world as we know it is ending > the ARRL made it clear that remote operations, so long as they adhere to the > rules of the licensing authority in the country of operation, count for ARRL > awards. > Can we not at least assume that before ARRL staff made that recommendation > to the Board that they reviewed the pertinent FCC rules and determined that > such action by the League would not be contrary to those rules? > It's a lovely fall day here in Tennessee. I am taking advantage of it to > check guy wires, coax connections and my eight beverages to make sure that I > am ready for the approaching low band season. Doesn't that sound like more > fun than beating this dead horse? > 73, Steve NN4T > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Remote operation
Let's see. It has been at least five years since RHR's "remote operation for the masses" hit the air waves. After several years of hand-wringing, teeth gnashing and proclamations that the amateur world as we know it is ending the ARRL made it clear that remote operations, so long as they adhere to the rules of the licensing authority in the country of operation, count for ARRL awards. Can we not at least assume that before ARRL staff made that recommendation to the Board that they reviewed the pertinent FCC rules and determined that such action by the League would not be contrary to those rules? It's a lovely fall day here in Tennessee. I am taking advantage of it to check guy wires, coax connections and my eight beverages to make sure that I am ready for the approaching low band season. Doesn't that sound like more fun than beating this dead horse? 73, Steve NN4T _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Fwd: Re: Remote operations
Is it really necessary to insult me Roger? I asked what I thought to be question that is both relevant to the discussion and simple. You win Roger. Congratulations. Steve Daniel, NN4T > -- Original Message -- > From: Roger D Johnson > To: STEVE DANIEL > Date: October 13, 2019 at 1:54 PM > Subject: Re: Topband: Remote operations > > You seem to have some trouble with English comprehension. Be sure to check > back after you've had some remedial training. > > Roger > > On 10/13/2019 2:36 PM, STEVE DANIEL wrote: > > Do you think the ARRL failed to do their due diligence as to whether their > > new policy was in harmony with the FCC rules? > > And of course this is about remote operations. > > Steve Daniel NN4T > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector > > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Remote operations
Do you think the ARRL failed to do their due diligence as to whether their new policy was in harmony with the FCC rules? And of course this is about remote operations. Steve Daniel NN4T _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: Remote operation
Let's see. It has been at least five years since RHR's "remote operation for the masses" hit the air waves. After several years of hand-wringing, teeth gnashing and proclamations that the amateur world as we know it is ending the ARRL made it clear that remote operations, so long as they adhere to the rules of the licensing authority in the country of operation, count for ARRL awards. Can we not at least assume that before ARRL staff made that recommendation to the Board that they reviewed the pertinent FCC rules and determined that such action by the League would not be contrary to those rules? It's a lovely fall day here in Tennessee. I am taking advantage of it to check guy wires, coax connections and my eight beverages to make sure that I am ready for the approaching low band season. Doesn't that sound like more fun than beating this dead horse? 73, Steve NN4T _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: cheating
Guy. You did it the "hard" way did you? I have been a ham and DXer since 1973 and have always encountered people like you. "You don't know how hard it was when I was your age. You have no idea how hard it was to work DX back then" Blah Blah Blah. It was BS then and it is BS now. The only thing that matters is if one works within the rules of the award or contest in which they compete. Technology evolves; rules evolve. Perhaps you and your ilk need to do the same. Look backward if you must. I choose to look in the other direction. Steve Daniel, NN4T > On January 15, 2018 at 6:28 PM Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av@gmail.com> wrote: > > > With apologies to Tree, who has asked that this subject be dropped... > > The question of the effect of a remote receiver or receivers has > already been dealt with by some contest organizers needing clarity and > consistency using current actual technical possibilities while > retaining the flavor and character of a contest. Probably the best > (IMHO) adjustment on remotes is that from Tree and Lew and the > inimitable BARC in the Stew Perry TBDC. > > The first part of their answer simply says remote RX *and* TX is fine, > and is treated like a very long electronic line from key and headset > to the station wherever it is. Grid square and possible required > xxn/callsign signing are from the remote location, which is the point > of record for scoring, standing, awards, etc. > > The second part is that using a local TX the receiver(s) may be > *entirely* co-located with the TX, or the RX facility may be > *entirely* sited at a single location 75 km or less from the TX > location. Using this provision, listening on the TX antenna is not > permitted during the contest. Although the rule uses the word > "receiver" in the singular, in their mind it does not preclude use of > a remote diversity RX, eg, K3 equipped with phase-locked diversity > subRX. > > Please remember that "cheating" with respect to ARRL DXCC has to do > with *ARRL* rules for same. Arguably some DXCC rules are so lax as to > be meaningless, but they are the ARRL's rules. It has nothing to do > with our being irritated or angered by someone who using modern > technical extensions claims the same status as ourselves when we have > gotten those numbers the HARD way, digging out countries through the > urban noise never heard up on those mountain or off-continent remotes. > > In the end someone whose status self-image depends on what others do > is inevitably doomed to anger. There will always, always be a cheat > among us somewhere. If we must compare, compare ourselves only to the > most noble examples. Or better yet BE that most noble example, knowing > God knows even if no one else does, and sleep well at night. > > 73, Guy K2AV > > > > On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:32 PM, Steve Daniel <n...@comcast.net> wrote: > > John, is the use of a remote receiver not allowed for DXCC? I don’t believe > > it is prohibited. I ask because your use of the word “cheating” suggests > > that it is. Is that what you are saying? Steve Daniel NN4T > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jan 15, 2018, at 12:31 PM, John Randall via Topband > >> <topband@contesting.com> wrote: > >> > >> Although I have never chased awards, I too am shocked at how easy it has > >> become for those so inclined to cheat the system, but not only the system > >> ,but themselves as well. Ofcourse not everyone will cheat but perhaps what > >> we should be discussing is how to detect those who do cheat. Perhaps a DIY > >> written document on how to to do this and what to look out for. This would > >> be of tremendous help for the new comers to the hobby and also us old > >> fogeys who have been around for a long time.Technology is a blessing and > >> also a curse. Perhaps one way to try and get back some control is force > >> all websdr's to enforce a full amateur call sign to its subscribers and > >> then to make the dbases available for scrutinity sothat the logs can be > >> compared to say the DXCC mechanisms. This is just a thought and worth > >> chewing over or other methods used. > >> Talking of which, has anyone noticed that the imfamous amaeteur in Spain > >> has been absent on the bands incl topband. > >> > >> 73John - M0ELS > >> _ > >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > > > _ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: cheating
John, is the use of a remote receiver not allowed for DXCC? I don’t believe it is prohibited. I ask because your use of the word “cheating” suggests that it is. Is that what you are saying? Steve Daniel NN4T Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 15, 2018, at 12:31 PM, John Randall via Topband > <topband@contesting.com> wrote: > > Although I have never chased awards, I too am shocked at how easy it has > become for those so inclined to cheat the system, but not only the system > ,but themselves as well. Ofcourse not everyone will cheat but perhaps what we > should be discussing is how to detect those who do cheat. Perhaps a DIY > written document on how to to do this and what to look out for. This would be > of tremendous help for the new comers to the hobby and also us old fogeys who > have been around for a long time.Technology is a blessing and also a curse. > Perhaps one way to try and get back some control is force all websdr's to > enforce a full amateur call sign to its subscribers and then to make the > dbases available for scrutinity sothat the logs can be compared to say the > DXCC mechanisms. This is just a thought and worth chewing over or other > methods used. > Talking of which, has anyone noticed that the imfamous amaeteur in Spain has > been absent on the bands incl topband. > > 73John - M0ELS > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: 4 square
Used both the 4 square and 8 circle array by DX Engineering. Both work but, in my thunderstorm environment, I spent many hours and as many dollars as the systems originally cost repairing them over three seasons. This is despite keeping the systems powered off, except when being used. The guys at DXE said doing so would protect the systems. Unfortunately that proved not to be the case at my middle Tennessee qth. Steve, NN4T Sent from my iPhone _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
