Re: Topband: Personal decision

[Fortra]

Tree, thanks for voice of wisdom. Nermin S58DX

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.
  Original Message  
From: Tree
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 16:22
To: Pete Smith N4ZR
Cc: 160
Subject: Re: Topband: Personal decision

I also need to respond to this sentiment:

"it's more important at this moment to get the word out
to the Russian public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned
and despised by the majority of the world's people."

Perhaps - but I believe Vladimir Putin really is receiving that message
clearly already - and having some ham radio operators complain to him will
not really concern him.

This is a scary thing for everyone in the world - and the people in Russia
are just as scared as we all are. Maybe the best way to get the message
out to the Russian public is to engage with them where we can.

Tree

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:17 AM Tree  wrote:

> Guys - I need to step in here.
>
> This is not what ham radio people do.
>
> The Russian ham that you are pretending to punish is not the person
> responsible for what is happening in Ukraine.
>
> Think about the situation if you were a USA ham - and some other ham
> decided not to work you because they did not like the decisions someone in
> Washington had made.
>
> Throughout my ham career - I have enjoyed the opportunity to meet people
> in places that I was taught were bad places and become to understand that
> they were people just like me - and were perhaps more helpless to control
> their government than I can control mine.
>
> We all have worked Russians over the years - and I bet almost everyone
> here would be in the pileup if a station from North Korea came on the air.
>
> I will always feel the best hope for humanity is to get to know each other
> and understand each other's situation better and have some understanding.
> Ham radio is one way to break down the political barriers and get to know
> real people.
>
> I have kind of felt sorry for the stations currently using D1 as a
> prefix. They are just pawns in a chess game and through no fault of their
> own, ended up in a situation where they couldn't get a license. They came
> up with a work around that allowed them to get on the air. If I was in
> their situation, I would probably do the same thing.
>
> If Vladimir Putin were a ham, I could understand you deciding not to work
> him - but let's not pretend our friends who we have been working over the
> years are responsible.
>
> I will not tolerate anything less from the members of this list.
>
> 73 Tree N6TR
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 5:46 AM Pete Smith N4ZR 
> wrote:
>
>> Yup. Me too.
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
>> web server at.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> On 2/24/2022 8:03 AM, MU 4CX250B wrote:
>> > Good move, Mark. We all know the current assault on Ukraine is not the
>> > fault of our many good Russian ham buddies, and while I know we all
>> > wish them well, it's more important at this moment to get the word out
>> > to the Russisn public that their leader's ruthless behavior is scorned
>> > and despised by the majority of the world's people.
>> > 73,
>> > Jim w8zr
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Feb 24, 2022, at 5:33 AM, Mpridesti via Topband<
>> topband@contesting.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>> I plan to NOT work any Russian stations during the ARRL DX SSB
>> contest as
>> >>> I object to the in unprovoked war they started.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ukraine hams have already shut down.
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Mark, K1RX
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Re: Topband: New Modes, Systems, etc

[fortra]

Hi Roger,

yeah, you are my man..could not be
said better..

Nermin S58DX

-Izvorno sporočilo- 
From: Roger Kennedy

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 3:32 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: New Modes, Systems, etc


It's easy to appreciate why many people - who are passionate about the hobby
- get upset about some of the things they see as being very negative to the
hobby.

Here in Britain there were LOTS of well-respected Amateurs who were actively
involved in Jamming the VHF Repeaters when they first came on the air in the
1970s. I would never have done such a thing, but I appreciated why those
people were concerned about it having a negative effect on the hobby.
People could now not bother to put up a decent antenna for 2m, yet work
stations 50 miles away.

However, most new amateurs that did that very quickly got bored with the
hobby, as there was no sense of achievement, no reason to self-improve . . .
and disappeared off the air.  Those that got the satisfaction of working
stations further away through their own efforts were usually the ones that
sustained interest in the hobby.

(It's interesting that there is almost NO activity on the various Repeaters
here in Britain these days . . . which kind of confirms my point!)

I think it's the same logic that many of us apply to the computer-based
modes/protocols . . . that there is no skill involved, and so no real sense
of achievement, like there is when puling a really weak DX station out of
the noise . . . with the result that those people will very soon lose
interest in the hobby.

So those of you who are so keen on them, please at least understand our
motives . . . it's because of our passion for the hobby that we are against
these computer-based modes . . . in the same way as I personally am against
VHF Repeaters or accessing remote Transmitting or even Receiving sites.

Roger G3YRO

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Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

[fortra]

Hi guys,

as a former radio officer and a ham for 51
years, i firmly belive, that hearing is beliving..

Not the other way around, seeing is beliving...
We, hams has last word, ear, eye on modes...

Nermin S58DX

-Izvorno sporočilo- 
From: Cecil

Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:02 PM
To: Hans Hjelmström
Cc: Topband@contesting.com ; W0MU Mike Fatchett
Subject: Re: Topband: FT-8 Contest would be great for Topband

Some international diplomacy?

Save it!

K5DL

Sent from my iPad


On Jan 10, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Hans Hjelmström  wrote:

And its even not Ham  radio.Its fake PC Computer business.
Sorry.Its the end of Ham radio
Hans SM6CVX



10 jan 2020 kl. 20:06 skrev W0MU Mike Fatchett :

1.5 million hits for FT8? WOW!


On 1/10/2020 11:38 AM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote:
I know the purists will flame me for this but look at the
frequency conservation this would present and look at the activity
statistics for only the past couple of hours,

AIf the contest was designed well sub-channels could be recommended for 
the

various continents as Stew Perry use to urge for intercontinental QSO's
from 1825-1830.

Here are the amazing stats for only two hours.

Modes over last 2 hours
Mode Count
FT8 1549146
FT4 41733
JS8 7895
CW 6894
PSK31 433
JT65 383
OPERA 132
JT9 65
MSK144 37
OLIVIA 22
OLIVIA 8 22
JT6M 18
ROS 14
DOMINO 13
PI4 12
OLIVIA-8 9
PSK63 9
FSK441 8
JT65B 7
WSPR 6
RTTY 5
MT63-500 1
SIM31 1
THOR 1
THOR22 1
PSK 1
CONTESTI 1

What do you think?


Herb, KV4FZ




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Re: Topband: new style PL-259's with screw on back INSTRUCTIONS

[fortra]

Thanks Mike,

that is very usefull.

Nermin S58DX

-Izvorno sporočilo- 
From: MICHAEL ST ANGELO

Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2018 3:49 PM
To: Pete Michaelis - N8TR ; topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: new style PL-259's with screw on back INSTRUCTIONS

These are compression connectors similar to the N type compression 
connector.


I use them as well as crimp type UHF connectors because I don't like the 
solder type PL259 connectors for RG-8. RG-58 or LMR-400 type coax.


Pasternack offers a similar type connector. Their data sheet has assembly 
instructions. You can use it as a guide.




Mike N2MS


On December 5, 2018 at 12:34 AM Pete Michaelis - N8TR 
 wrote:



EBAY item 192225630585 looks similar to the Multicomp clamp
connector  discussed on
Towertalk early in 2011.   See:
http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/2011-02/msg00214.html

73, Pete - N8TR



At 09:45 PM 12/4/2018, terry burge wrote:

Hi Gary
Take a look at ebay 'UHF PL259 male clamp Plug lot connector for
LMR400 RG8 RG213 RG214 Coax cable' from 'superstore_dan'.
Terry
KI7M
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Re: Topband: 80-160M remote autotuner needed

[fortra]

Gary,

check Harris RF-615B, several of the hams in nearby area including me,
mine is not operational yet, use them to couple everything...it is a heavy 
beast though :)


Kr Nermin S58DX

-Izvorno sporočilo- 
From: Gary Marks

Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2016 4:24 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Topband: 80-160M remote autotuner needed

I am looking for a 80-160M remote automatic tuner that will tune my long
wire antenna. I know MFJ makes one (MFJ-998RT) that will handle 1500 watts
but I would like something of better quality. Seems the reviews are mixed
and warm at best for this tuner. Anyone have any suggestions ?

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Re: Topband: Book: The Amateur Radio Vertical Antenna Handbook Capt. Paul H. Lee 2nd Edition

[fortra]

Hi James,

i have both edition's..
What i can do, for you ??

kr Nermin S58DX

-Izvorno sporočilo- 
From: James Rodenkirch

Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 9:58 PM
To: Top Band Contesting
Subject: Topband: Book: The Amateur Radio Vertical Antenna Handbook Capt. 
Paul H. Lee 2nd Edition


If someone owns the subject book I'd like to chat with you about it, off 
line...tnx de Jim R. K9JWV

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Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances

[Fortra]

Dado Hi:)

Jim is right. Whenever we talk about figures/numbers, they have
different meaning from "ethics".
Regarding ethics, jeez that is such a broad subject, that broad, that i 
would not

dare to start it

I understand your concern, but this is utterly wrong to expect that someone
would pay my pleasureas i said previously, there are no free lunches...

So we better stop brag about it, and contribute to group of brave
operators and it's supporters...

73's Nermin S58DX


- Original Message - 
From: "Dragoslav Balaban" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers DX Expedition finances



>It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.


Garry





while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much to contribute to the

cost.


73, Jim K9YC




Funny that there is no comment abt this???

I also don't think something like that deserve any comment, but cant 
hold...




I suggest that for those, who support this Opinion,

that DX Mart or DX Supermarket  should be started, so only one who pay get
QSO, its a true HAM spirit.  and then pay again for QSL...



Maybe expedition even need not to go to the entity at all, why make cost,
waste time and money, etc???



also, who pay more should get QSO first, and/or more QSO, maye to charge 
by

Band / Mode...

and maybe, as Premium service, no need to work DX Exped at all, QSO would 
be

entered in LOG automatically,

and VIP QSL send, plus  LoTW confirmation and eQSL as free Bonus



I promise, will not call such Expedition ever, and I will not be angry and
make DQRM for sure...

I also promise, I will not charge for any QSO with E74AW, or QSL , except
usual practice, and will work as good DX Operating practice demand,

mean,  will not wait for daylight in NA, to call NA, and will not call EU 
in

my SR when is time to work NA, or will not work EU when is JA SR etc...



Its just my humble opinion, I do not ask anyone to agree or disagree with
me...

And Im not angry to anyone, ...



gl to all who think this kind of HAM radio should be



73 dado E74AW



-Original Message-
From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Larry
Sent: Friday, 06 February, 2015 04:28
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers



Someone did a more extensive analysis of several DXpeditions maybe 2 or 3
years ago. Basically the same conclusion. Typically  NA puts up the 
largest

percentage of the funds but doesn't get that percentage in Q's. I forget
which group it was posted in.



73, Larry  W6NWS



-Original Message-

From: Garry Shapiro

Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:43 PM

To:  <mailto:topband@contesting.com> topband@contesting.com

Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers



It appears to be the case that NA finances the big trips and EU gets the
Q's. That needs to be ironed out.



Garry



On 2/5/2015 11:32 AM, Jim Brown wrote:


On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:



jeez those numbers are worrying.







So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that have



gotten increasingly expensive. The only way to get on the island is



via a helicopter, and they have had to make many trips.







Some of my friends go on these trips (three are on Navassa), and all



of them complain that while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do



much to contribute to the cost. Take a look at the "News" tab on this



link, then the "Our Sponsors" tab, noting the breakdown by continent



for contributions from Clubs and individual hams.







 <http://www.navassadx.com/> http://www.navassadx.com/







All of that notwithstanding, some of the key players on this



expedition were also part of FT5ZM, which did a spectacular job of


filling logs everywhere, taking advantage of propagation and great 
station

engineering.


AA7JV and HA7RY are part of this trip. Their topband record is excellent.



And they're not the only guys who know how to work topband.







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Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers

[Fortra]

Jim, thanks for bringing it up.

As said " there are no free lunches",
whether it is economy, politics, everyday life
or hobby...

73's Nermin S58DX


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Brown" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers



On Thu,2/5/2015 8:29 AM, Fortra wrote:
jeez those numbers are worrying. 


So are the numbers for contributions to the cost of DX trips that have 
gotten increasingly expensive. The only way to get on the island is via 
a helicopter, and they have had to make many trips.


Some of my friends go on these trips (three are on Navassa), and all of 
them complain that while EU hams are very demanding, they don't do much 
to contribute to the cost. Take a look at the "News" tab on this link, 
then the "Our Sponsors" tab, noting the breakdown by continent for 
contributions from Clubs and individual hams.


http://www.navassadx.com/

All of that notwithstanding, some of the key players on this expedition 
were also part of FT5ZM, which did a spectacular job of filling logs 
everywhere, taking advantage of propagation and great station 
engineering. AA7JV and HA7RY are part of this trip. Their topband record 
is excellent. And they're not the only guys who know how to work topband.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers

[Fortra]

Hi Lou,

jeez those numbers are worrying.
Although, path from K1 or and 6Y5 is far more
easier to EU/US then EP to US

Got EP from 70' and Navassa as well :)

Sometimes it pays off, to be that long arround :)
Incidentally, this is one of the best location in Carrebian :)
I think that 6Y5 team set several WW on MM on Cw and QRPP
as well

Was there in eighties as YU3CR/MM for 9 month...

We will agree upon vine :)

73's Nermin S58DX


- Original Message - 
From: "KE1F Lou" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers


Nermin,

Lets wait for the final result from K1N.

We do have EP6T data:

68,045 QSO
69.6% Europe
9.8% North America
17.6% Asia.

I am willing to bet you a bottle of riesling, (Yellow Tail, my favored
fermented grape)
that K1N will do better with European stations than EP6T did with North
American
stations.

Are you on?

73 Lou  KE1F

On 2/5/2015 7:42 AM, Fortra wrote:

Lou,

is that what you have said, an argument ?
Let us wait a week, and then we will judge...

73's Nermin S58DX



- Original Message - From: "KE1F Lou" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers


To us EP6T was European QSO Party.

GL and 73 Lou  KE1F

On 2/5/2015 1:51 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:

Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local station almost.

Jeez how difficult can it be from the US, anybody with
100W and a wet noodle for an antenna can work it. On
80 I´m sure at least from the east coast they can be
worked all day long.

I don´t know about 160 since so far they haven´t been
stronger then S2 due to geo mag storm and poor propagation
66 degs north where I´m at but so far I´m very disappointed
in their 80m operation, they never listen for EU or any other
area, they work 99,5% NA, it is the USA/Canadian QSO party.
I would have expected a totally different action by that
bunch of operators, I´m very very sad and sorry to see
where it all has went to.

Now this might not be the case on 160, if I´m lucky propagation
might get better and I might get a shot at it.

73 Jim SM2EKM

On 2015-02-04 01:15, Hardy Landskov wrote:

I got up last night for my nightly bathroom ritual and just for grins
listened to 160. They were calling CQ and I worked them on 2 calls. Not
many trying to get them. This was 1035Z.
N7RT

- Original Message - From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist"

To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers



Why not call around 0700Z after the
band closes to EU and before it opens
to JA?  A bunch of us in CA got them
in the log last night fairly easily.

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Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers

[Fortra]

Lou,

is that what you have said, an argument ?
Let us wait a week, and then we will judge...

73's Nermin S58DX



- Original Message - 
From: "KE1F Lou" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers


To us EP6T was European QSO Party.

GL and 73 Lou  KE1F

On 2/5/2015 1:51 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:

Sorry if I´m a PITA right now but why even bother to
have this debate about K1N on 160, it´s not even DX
to NA, like a local station almost.

Jeez how difficult can it be from the US, anybody with
100W and a wet noodle for an antenna can work it. On
80 I´m sure at least from the east coast they can be
worked all day long.

I don´t know about 160 since so far they haven´t been
stronger then S2 due to geo mag storm and poor propagation
66 degs north where I´m at but so far I´m very disappointed
in their 80m operation, they never listen for EU or any other
area, they work 99,5% NA, it is the USA/Canadian QSO party.
I would have expected a totally different action by that
bunch of operators, I´m very very sad and sorry to see
where it all has went to.

Now this might not be the case on 160, if I´m lucky propagation
might get better and I might get a shot at it.

73 Jim SM2EKM

On 2015-02-04 01:15, Hardy Landskov wrote:

I got up last night for my nightly bathroom ritual and just for grins
listened to 160. They were calling CQ and I worked them on 2 calls. Not
many trying to get them. This was 1035Z.
N7RT

- Original Message - From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist"

To: ; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: Out-of-Turn Callers



Why not call around 0700Z after the
band closes to EU and before it opens
to JA?  A bunch of us in CA got them
in the log last night fairly easily.

Rick N6RK
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Re: Topband: tool for install radials

[Fortra]

Hi Jorge,

in one of the ARRL Antenna Compendium there was a guy who
simply bought a truckload of ground?? and put it over
the radial  filed :) Spread  with showel, add some grass seed and
voila :)

I like that solution, although never tried..

Nermin S58DX


- Original Message - 
From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2014 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: tool for install radials


Hi Herb

This will be ideal!

Is just n idea or you know about it? Some photos?

no rocks, only grass and agricultural land, could make a channel with a
shovel, but I'm looking for something more practical for many radial

Thanks,
Jorge


-Mensaje original-
De: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] En nombre de Herbert
Schoenbohm
Enviado el: martes, 09 de diciembre de 2014 12:42 p.m.
Para: topband@contesting.com
Asunto: Re: Topband: tool for install radials

Probably the best item for installing radials is a small vibrating plow on
the back of a lawn tractor.  Dig only one hole. put in the blade and the
radial wire on a spool above is fed through a hole in the hollow plow blade
which effortlessly drives along unspooling the wire and leaving only a small
slit in the ground which disappears in days.
However, it doesn't work well in rocky terrain. Some people I have heard use
a chain saw but you must be very careful with that method.


Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
On 12/9/2014 9:45 AM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote:

Hello



I think there´s a tool to make a line in the ground to put radials.



Couldn´t find it in website, don´t know the name in English



Could you please help me to find it or send me close up photos of
yours to try to ask someone locally to make one?



Thanks in advance



73,

Jorge

CX6VM/CW5W



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Re: Topband: Matching network info for 80 & 160M needed

[Fortra]

Hi Gary,

there was an article in recent issue of ARRL QST, A 20 and 40 meter Vertical 
on "Autopilot",
from QST september 2005 by Dan Richardson, K6MHE...same article ended up in 
ARRL"

" More vertical Antenna Classics :)

Use heavy duty compononets, treat 160 m vertical as 1/4 lambda and 80 meters 
as

1/2 lambda...let us know :)

You might have followeres..

Kr Nermin S58DX

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Marks" 

To: "Topband" 
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:48 PM
Subject: Topband: Matching network info for 80 & 160M needed


I have an Inverted-L antenna for 80M & 160M and would like to make or buy a 
remote matching system that would work on both ends of both bands that 
would accept full power.
I built a system many years ago from a Doug DeMaw, W1FB, article in the 
May 1985 issue of QST but it has never worked as well as I wanted for 
whatever reason.
If anyone is interested, this article can be found at the ARRL QST 
archives http://www.arrl.org/arrl-periodicals-archive-search  by entering 
W1FB , 1985, May, QST.


Anyone have an idea of a matching system that would do all of the above ?
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Re: Topband: Fixed capacitor source needed (150pf 5KV)

[Fortra]

Hi Herb,

same thing happened to me, and i have used Russian
doorknob capacitors very close in value ( i think i have combined
100 and 47 pf ). Try dr.Alex website for those...

A friend of mine, replaced ALL of the PCB capacitors and since that time
on, no problems...
Of course, do not push more then 1500 to 2000 watts at big mismatches :)

It is my favourite tuner,

Gl Nermin S58DX

- Original Message - 
From: "Herb Schoenbohm" 

To: "TopBand List" ; 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:45 PM
Subject: Topband: Fixed capacitor source needed (150pf 5KV)


I have a Drake MN2700 so I can at least get the amp to work above 
1870Khz during contests.  The tuner used some fixed flat 150pf 5KV 
capacitors to switch in from the front selector as increased capacity is 
need to make the tuner work.  I can't find any door knob substitutes at 
that value in my junk box. I am thus looking for a source for these 
values but so far have not found anything that I can use as a 
substitute. I presume I could make some out of sections of RG-8 mini 
roller up in a coIl but before I try this I am searching for a door knob 
source.  I have some 500pf at 5KV and three of them in series might be 
close enough but i still need the correct values.  If any reader to this 
knows of other ATU manufactures that use the copper teflon flat 
capacitor in their units maybe   could order 150 pf 5KV from them.



Your help on this would be appreciated.


Herb, KV4FZ
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Re: Topband: E-mail AH8DX

[Fortra]

Hi Bojan,
try :
ah...@msn.com

or direct 

Craig Maxey, 16550 SW Taft Court, Beaverton, OR 97007-6262, USA

rgds,

Nermin S58DX
- Original Message - 
From: "Bojan Sever" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 8:35 AM
Subject: Topband: E-mail AH8DX


> Hello !
> 
> Anybody has E-mail from AH8DX ?
> 
> TNX & 73 Bojan, S57M
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