Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
I was speaking of spots related to DX across the Atlantic or out to the Pacific. Just woke up for the all nighters second night...not really much better. Did have the icing put on the cake though During our grayline we had KL7RA respond to one of our CQ's and wrap up WAS on 160 in two nightsI was ecstatic. It was a nice experience. Cecil K5DL - Original Message - From: "K4OWR" To: Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 9:34 AM Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation last evening > * Spots were very slim? What cluster were you connected to? I had a > steady stream to click and pounce on. > I was connected to Yankee Clipper. > BILL K4OWR* > > On 2/25/2012 2:07 PM, chacuff wrote: >> Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB >> contest? >> >> > From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very >> > slim as >> well... >> >> I'd be curious what others experienced... >> >> Cecil >> K5DL >> >> ___ >> UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK >> > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Was not in the contest, but stopped by the shack, a few times, over a 4 hour period. Worked 7 DX stations most in zone 15, one in zone 14, and one in zone 33-- CT3DL who was loud. 5 were above 1900KHZ , one on 1887 and one on 1848 KHZ. Also heard another W1 land station working a European that I could not copy.. Spotlight propagation ? 73 Bruce-K1FZ I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
* Spots were very slim? What cluster were you connected to? I had a steady stream to click and pounce on. I was connected to Yankee Clipper. BILL K4OWR* On 2/25/2012 2:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > > > From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > > > From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL It was poor at best. never heard anything beyond 2000-2200 miles, except the K7 fellow in CE. I worked a few Caribbean stations running without the amp; Just not worth the effort. At the beginning of the season I had great hopes of finally making DXCC on 160 this season as I just need 5 or 6, but with condx like they have been, I am having serious doubts. It is interesting to note that stuff out in the Pacific is usually stronger than the Caribbean. 73, Mike, W5UC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Don, it's that 'one way thingy' that happens on 160m for as long as I have operated on this band. You cannot determine your signal strength as his QTH based on his signal strength at your QTH. Doug/VA5DX >-Original Message- >From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband- >It never ceases to amaze/confuse me that when I'm searching and calling >stations, anyone that isn't fairly solid copy will virtually NEVER hear me. > Yet when I call CQ, I get stations answering me that are so weak I'd never >even consider calling them, yet they often comment on how loud I am. They >can't all be QRP > >73 Don >VE6JY ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Well, I might agree with you Jim, if all the states and provinces weren't multipliers. And that the strategy of winners for 160 contests is to WORK ANYTHING THAT MOVES. If you hear it, work it. Doesn't matter if it's east coast or west coast or DX. Personally my limiting factor is being able to hear weak stations. CQ and ARRL list winners by states and call areas and gives them certificates. Nice piece of paper. 73, Guy (If I can hear you I'll work you) K2AV On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: > > I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests > > either you can't be heard unless you run a kw > > or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds > > that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US > > or doesn't have an exotic call sign > > It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M > contests. > > It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast > stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for > DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU > from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, > yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three > or five, depending on the contest. > > The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, > but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it > because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 > scoring advantage? > > 73, Jim K9YC > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
Hey Sam, It was the poorest first night that I can remember going back 20 years to the first part of the '90's. For a LNG timethe only station we heard and worked out here in southwest NM was one TX superstation. And that is with HP and lots of radiating metal. This is the NI5T multi-op. It too us nearly 5 hours to get to 100 Q's. Only 330 or so for the entire night when normally the count in around 600 for the first night. Best DX was Al, K7CA in Chile and RC0F on Sakalin (sp) peninsula in eastern Russia. I like others am looking for the band to flip-flop tonight and give us a reasonably good shot. 73, and get on for a while after the 10 PM news. Milt, N5IA, one of the ops at NI5T -Original Message- From: Sam Morgan Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 1:03 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Propagation last evening I started about dark_30 here in West Texas all I could hear was 4 other TX stations calling CQ First I tried them with 5w, I wanted to work the contest QRP no responses so I went up to 100w, still nothing so I watched some TV until about 10pm lots of (stateside) stations all over the band by now again no responses to my attempts to answer their CQ's, again with 100w. all the stations I heard were in states I had worked b4 when running QRP in the previous CW contests conclusion reached I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign tisk tisk, their loss, but not to worry its the 1st weekend of the NASCAR season c all you cw ops again for the mid year Stew Perry -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB > contest? > >> From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim >> as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4831 - Release Date: 02/25/12 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
>From my landlocked 4 square in somewhat frozen and snowy Alberta, Friday was mostly what I'd call a normal evening, i.e. not very good. The bigger stations on the east coast are workable (VY2ZM and N4PN were consistently loud), Europe is a dream (and yes, we consider VO1/2 to be part of Europe for this one...) and the Carribean was workable but not many of them to pick from. I only called CQ here from almost 0800 thru 0930 and the best mults that answered were VE9HF and KH6AT but I listened a fair bit (and made a few Perseus recordings earlier) and gave out the multiplier to whomever heard me. It never ceases to amaze/confuse me that when I'm searching and calling stations, anyone that isn't fairly solid copy will virtually NEVER hear me. Yet when I call CQ, I get stations answering me that are so weak I'd never even consider calling them, yet they often comment on how loud I am. They can't all be QRP 73 Don VE6JY On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Steve wrote: > The only thing I heard last night was KH7Y and N4PN calling CQ...I > couldn't get Paul's attention > 73, Steve KH6/AA4V > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:07 AM, "chacuff" wrote: > > > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB > contest? > > > >> From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very > slim as > > well... > > > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > > > Cecil > > K5DL > > > > ___ > > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
* Gee, a lot of anger out there about this contest. In my opinion.running a KW or more on 160 is just required. It's the nature of the band, has been since Marconi. I'm a long time "SSB" op (56 years) and I listen so far down into the weeds my ears hurt. I also use separate rcv antennas, in several directions to help me overcome the noise and hear better overall. I really try to answer even the weakest stations. The 500 people I worked last night can attest to that. The attitude implied by several here is simply sour grapes from those who don't put forth the effort this band requires. I will continue to try to operate my station as best I can. As to the scoring rules.yes, they're unfair to US hams. This does not stop me from getting on and enjoying myself.* *BILL K4OWRjust changed from my original 1957 issued original call K2OWR, to try to "fit" in to my wonderful new home in TN.Y'all * On 2/25/2012 3:35 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: >> I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests >> either you can't be heard unless you run a kw >> or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds >> that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US >> or doesn't have an exotic call sign > It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M > contests. > > It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast > stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for > DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU > from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, > yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three > or five, depending on the contest. > > The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, > but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it > because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 > scoring advantage? > > 73, Jim K9YC > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
On 2/25/2012 12:03 PM, Sam Morgan wrote: > I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests > either you can't be heard unless you run a kw > or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds > that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US > or doesn't have an exotic call sign It's not much better on CW, which is why I no longer bother with 160M contests. It's long past time for scoring rules changes that cause east coast stations to want to work something besides DX. The excessive credit for DX QSOs and countries as multipliers simply does not make sense. EU from most of the east coast is only about 25% greater distance than W6, yet the W1--W6 or W1-W7 QSO counts one point and the EU QSO counts three or five, depending on the contest. The only 160M contest with reasonable scoring rules is the Stew Perry, but there's not nearly enough activity to make it much fun. Is it because the east coast guys don't like anything without their 5:1 scoring advantage? 73, Jim K9YC ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
I started about dark_30 here in West Texas all I could hear was 4 other TX stations calling CQ First I tried them with 5w, I wanted to work the contest QRP no responses so I went up to 100w, still nothing so I watched some TV until about 10pm lots of (stateside) stations all over the band by now again no responses to my attempts to answer their CQ's, again with 100w. all the stations I heard were in states I had worked b4 when running QRP in the previous CW contests conclusion reached I will not be wasting my time in any 160m SSB contests either you can't be heard unless you run a kw or ssb ops aren't listening for anything down in the weeds that isn't received on a beverage pointed away from the US or doesn't have an exotic call sign tisk tisk, their loss, but not to worry its the 1st weekend of the NASCAR season c all you cw ops again for the mid year Stew Perry -- GB & 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan On 2/25/2012 1:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > >> From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
I only got on for a very short time in the mid evening (8-10pm local ). Prop must have been kinda weird. Some EU's were over S9 yet I only made a couple of QSOs. I worked W9RE who was actually weak-ish (weird, in and of itself) on the QRG of OL7M who was over S9. I made a comment to W9RE that there was a very loud EU on his freq and nobody "out east" could hear him and he said he was not hearing them (the EU) at all. VY2ZM's son was on and working EU's I could not even hearbut that's just normal, hi hi ! Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Smith 699 Rte 616 Keswick Ridge NB Canada E6L 1T1 - Original Message - From: chacuff To: Topband@contesting.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 3:07 PM Subject: Topband: Propagation last evening Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? >From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as well... I'd be curious what others experienced... Cecil K5DL ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4226 - Release Date: 02/22/12 19:34:00 ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
We've had three contests in a row where Friday night 160 was really stinky. Will we have three in a row where Saturday night was a whole new deal? At least that long line of thunderstorms off shore that stretched from GA to New Brunswick will be gone with the front. In North Carolina the band sounded like mid-summer, with 20 over and 30 over QRN. 73, Guy. On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 2:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > > >From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim > as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
My first contest on 160, and really my first heavy activity session. The only DX I worked was a dozen or so Carribean, Mexico, and Canadian provinces 1,2,3,4,6 Also 43 states, no west coast though. I saw lots of DX spots, but heard almost none of it. I used YCCC dx cluster, but have no idea who was posting the spots...could have been Europeans. Did manage to work almost 500 stations this first night. I'm 35 miles west of Knoxville TN. BILL K4OWR On 2/25/2012 2:07 PM, chacuff wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > > > From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK > ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Propagation last evening
The only thing I heard last night was KH7Y and N4PN calling CQ...I couldn't get Paul's attention 73, Steve KH6/AA4V Sent from my iPhone On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:07 AM, "chacuff" wrote: > Anyone care to comment on last evenings propagation for the CQ SSB contest? > >> From the deep south there just was no DX going on. Spots were very slim as > well... > > I'd be curious what others experienced... > > Cecil > K5DL > > ___ > UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
