Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-20 Thread Ed Sawyer
Personally, I did not observe commentary deserving of someone leaving a
reflector that they have enjoyed for 20 years.  I do believe that Tom got
tweaked by hearing opinions on RHR which questioned whether its ethically
used or potentially had liability for use of his station and didn't like it.
Sounds like he may be have some second thoughts about joining into that
fray.

 

73

 

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Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-20 Thread Tree
I think guessing why W8JI left is no longer really productive.

It also isn't the main purpose of this reflector.

Yes - Tom has a lot of value on this list.  It isn't the first time he left
the list - and it probably won't be the last.

73 Tree N6TR


On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Ed Sawyer  wrote:

> Personally, I did not observe commentary deserving of someone leaving a
> reflector that they have enjoyed for 20 years.  I do believe that Tom got
> tweaked by hearing opinions on RHR which questioned whether its ethically
> used or potentially had liability for use of his station and didn't like
> it.
> Sounds like he may be have some second thoughts about joining into that
> fray.
>
>
>
> 73
>
>
>
> Ed  N1UR
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Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-20 Thread Jerry (K3BZ)
Seemed to me Tom got annoyed at being quoted out of context, or 
misquoted entirely, or maybe both. People get careless about how they 
say things and end up questioning integrity of others.   The more one 
values integrity, the more important that can be.  I think Tom has a lot 
of integrity and it's damned important to him.  Got to be more careful 
in an email where intent is not always clear.  Everyone has a right to 
an opinion, but also are responsible for the consequences of how they 
express it.
We may have lost one of the very best.  Or maybe we'll get lucky and Tom 
will be back eventually.

Just my 2 cents, FWIW

73.Jerry K3BZ


On 1/20/2016 9:51 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:

Personally, I did not observe commentary deserving of someone leaving a
reflector that they have enjoyed for 20 years.  I do believe that Tom got
tweaked by hearing opinions on RHR which questioned whether its ethically
used or potentially had liability for use of his station and didn't like it.
Sounds like he may be have some second thoughts about joining into that
fray.

  


73

  


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Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-20 Thread Jerry (K3BZ)
Seemed to me Tom got annoyed at being quoted out of context, or 
misquoted entirely, or maybe both. People get careless about how they 
say things and end up questioning integrity of others.   The more one 
values integrity, the more important that can be.  I think Tom has a lot 
of integrity and it's damned important to him.  Got to be more careful 
in an email where intent is not always clear.  Everyone has a right to 
an opinion, but also are responsible for the consequences of how they 
express it.
We may have lost one of the very best.  Or maybe we'll get lucky and Tom 
will be back eventually.

Just my 2 cents, FWIW

73.Jerry K3BZ


On 1/20/2016 9:51 AM, Ed Sawyer wrote:

Personally, I did not observe commentary deserving of someone leaving a
reflector that they have enjoyed for 20 years.  I do believe that Tom got
tweaked by hearing opinions on RHR which questioned whether its ethically
used or potentially had liability for use of his station and didn't like it.
Sounds like he may be have some second thoughts about joining into that
fray.

  


73

  


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Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-19 Thread Mike Waters
I'm afraid so, Jim. :-(

I almost sent an email to Tom asking him to reconsider, but then I figured
that anything we said wouldn't bring him back. Not as long as ... well, I'd
rather not discuss this here anymore.

You can read what led up to it at
http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/2016-01/threads.html and search that
page for "w8ji".

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, James Rodenkirch 
wrote:

>
> NowI just read a couple of posts on the K5P operation where it was
> intimated that Tom, W8JI, was leaving this reflector!!
>
> Had that been confirmed??
>
> T bad - dang...technical prowess should be cultivated and
> encouraged to keep posting away.friggin' shame if true!
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Re: Topband: W8JI is bailing out of this reflector?

2016-01-19 Thread Matthew King - KK4CPS
All I know is this - I just read the "lead up" to Tom's self-removal from
the group and it didn't take me long to identify a couple of asshats that
owe him an apology. Larry? Check. Misquoting is unethical and you knew it
when you did it. Roger? You betcha. A snarky "Bye, Tom" is all you had to
say? Probably just as well.

As a fairly new and "nobody" ham trying to learn about the supposed
"gentleman's band," I've found Tom's posts very educational. I've learned
more from Tom and his website than most others.  Do either of you have free
websites aimed at educating hams new and old?  Maybe Google is broken, but
I couldn't find them. Being prolific operators I'll concede in both cases,
but what're your contributions past that? If y'all are the "gentlemen" that
I'm supposed to be working on topband, I'll go cut the coax to my measly
160 antenna now, thanks.

Tom's loss will be felt far more than whatever you two may bring to the
table, I'm quite sure.

Shame on you both.

To the rest of the list - I apologize for my impertinent behavior. I've
spoken my peace. I'll reign it in.


73

Matt
KK4CPS



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On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Mike Waters  wrote:

> I'm afraid so, Jim. :-(
>
> I almost sent an email to Tom asking him to reconsider, but then I figured
> that anything we said wouldn't bring him back. Not as long as ... well, I'd
> rather not discuss this here anymore.
>
> You can read what led up to it at
> http://lists.contesting.com/_topband/2016-01/threads.html and search that
> page for "w8ji".
>
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 3:44 PM, James Rodenkirch 
> wrote:
>
> >
> > NowI just read a couple of posts on the K5P operation where it was
> > intimated that Tom, W8JI, was leaving this reflector!!
> >
> > Had that been confirmed??
> >
> > T bad - dang...technical prowess should be cultivated and
> > encouraged to keep posting away.friggin' shame if true!
> >
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