Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread mikefurrey
Looking at the front cover brings to mind this web page. Yep, their ferrite 
rods are very expensive!

http://www.stormwise.com/

73, Mike WA5POK

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Waters
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:24 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

Speaking of ferrite RX loops...

I picked up the July 2012 issue of Popular Communications from the local
grocery store's magazine rack, just to see what the unusual antenna on the
front cover was all about. It's called a "ferrite sleeve loop", and is made
from a bunch of ferrite rods arranged into a cylinder with many turns of
wire --connected to a variable capacitor--  wrapped around the center of
it. You hold your little portable AM radio next to it to pick up signals
from Uranus, supposedly. ;-)

A photo is at 
http://www.popular-communications.com/pc_current_issue.html(for
now).

And a video of this thingy is at bit.ly/Ifhpiy .

Anybody ever see anything like this? What's the advantage (if any)?

And can you imagine what all those ferrite rods cost?!


73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread Mike Waters
Speaking of ferrite RX loops...

I picked up the July 2012 issue of Popular Communications from the local
grocery store's magazine rack, just to see what the unusual antenna on the
front cover was all about. It's called a "ferrite sleeve loop", and is made
from a bunch of ferrite rods arranged into a cylinder with many turns of
wire --connected to a variable capacitor--  wrapped around the center of
it. You hold your little portable AM radio next to it to pick up signals
from Uranus, supposedly. ;-)

A photo is at http://www.popular-communications.com/pc_current_issue.html(for
now).

And a video of this thingy is at bit.ly/Ifhpiy .

Anybody ever see anything like this? What's the advantage (if any)?

And can you imagine what all those ferrite rods cost?!

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com
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UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK


Re: Topband: small rx loops and ferrite

2012-07-03 Thread Rick Karlquist
Sam Morgan wrote:
> Since the topic of ferrite seems to be at the top of the lists focus
> I'd like to ask about what ferrite mix to use at the feed of a small rx
> loop I
> have built
>

You might want to look at the feed technique described here:

http://www.n6rk.com/loopantennas/NCJ_loop_antenna_N6RK.pdf

Although this article talks about a shielded loop, it will work
equally well on your unshielded loop.  The article recommends
Fair-Rite 67 material because it is very low loss at 160 meters.
This gives maximum antenna sensitivity.

If you want to broadband a loop, the thing to do is to
reduce the turns ratio on the transformer so that you
reduce the *loaded* Q.  This will result in better sensitivity
than simply adding loss to the system (ie reducing the *unloaded
Q*) by using a lossy ferrite core like 31.  That sort of "broadbanding"
reduces sensitivity at all frequencies, but reduces it
more at the center.

Rick N6RK


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