Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
Ok...I guess that's a hint to shut up. 73 de Vince, VA3VF QRT. On 2017-05-21 5:07 PM, Dale Putnam wrote: Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy "Actions speak louder than words" 1856 - Abraham Lincoln _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
Have a great day, --... ...-- Dale - WC7S in Wy "Actions speak louder than words" 1856 - Abraham Lincoln From: Topband on behalf of DXer Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:38 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT QRP is not a mode per se, but after alot of 'pressure', the ARRL relented and now issues a DXCC QRP award, albeit unnumbered, and outside of the mainstream DXCC. Nobody has been forced to apply for one, as far as I know. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 2:28 PM, DXer wrote: > Hi JC, > > That's true, but it is an endorsement for WAS. > > And since the DXCC categories were not delivered to us a part of the 10 > commandments, it can change at any moment. :^) > > 73 de Vince, VA3VF > > On 2017-05-21 2:09 PM, JC wrote: >> JT is not CW and not SSB, why it is not a category by itself. SSB CW and >> Digital. >> >> DXCC JT modes. >> >> Regards >> JC >> N4IS _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband Topband Archives - Contesting Online Home<http://www.contesting.com/_topband> www.contesting.com Topband Mailing List Archives. Search String: [How to search] Display: ... _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
QRP is not a mode per se, but after alot of 'pressure', the ARRL relented and now issues a DXCC QRP award, albeit unnumbered, and outside of the mainstream DXCC. Nobody has been forced to apply for one, as far as I know. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 2:28 PM, DXer wrote: Hi JC, That's true, but it is an endorsement for WAS. And since the DXCC categories were not delivered to us a part of the 10 commandments, it can change at any moment. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 2:09 PM, JC wrote: JT is not CW and not SSB, why it is not a category by itself. SSB CW and Digital. DXCC JT modes. Regards JC N4IS _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
Hi JC, That's true, but it is an endorsement for WAS. And since the DXCC categories were not delivered to us a part of the 10 commandments, it can change at any moment. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-21 2:09 PM, JC wrote: JT is not CW and not SSB, why it is not a category by itself. SSB CW and Digital. DXCC JT modes. Regards JC N4IS _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
JT is not CW and not SSB, why it is not a category by itself. SSB CW and Digital. DXCC JT modes. Regards JC N4IS -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Sean Waite Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 12:47 PM To: Nick Maslon - K1NZ ; topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT In reality, this is why we have triple play and mode specific awards. The CW only people can stay on CW, sideband on sideband, etc. In a way, Joe Taylor and the wsjt developers are probably more in the spirit of amateur radio than someone running a shack in a box on CW. Pushing the limits and experimenting with new ways of communicating. Either way, this hobby is big enough for all of us. Sean WA1TE On Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:35 Nick Maslon - K1NZ wrote: > The way I see it, do what you enjoy. That's what's great about this hobby. > There are so many things you can do and digimodes and JT are just one > of them. > > Here's an example for you guys. Warwick, E51WL is, as far as I know, > the only active ham on one of the North Cook Islands. He only works JT > (that I'm aware of). Is my QSO on top band with him the other night > invalid? Do I have to wait potentially decades for the next dxpedition > to work someone on phone or CW for it to be a "real" QSO? Following > that logic, I guess I'm not a real ham because I'm a "ditless wonder" > (no code extra) and didn't walk uphill 20 miles in a blizzard to the > FCC office to take my novice test. > > I guess my point here is that we should be having fun and enjoying the > hobby. There are so many facets to this hobby. Play with the ones you > enjoy and keep you active. Other people have other interests and that > doesn't mean that they're any less of a ham. Hell, some of the digital > modes are bringing new, young, blood to an otherwise OM's hobby. > > I apologize for getting a little ranty. I'll crawl back into my hole now. > > 73 and the best of DX for everyone, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
In reality, this is why we have triple play and mode specific awards. The CW only people can stay on CW, sideband on sideband, etc. In a way, Joe Taylor and the wsjt developers are probably more in the spirit of amateur radio than someone running a shack in a box on CW. Pushing the limits and experimenting with new ways of communicating. Either way, this hobby is big enough for all of us. Sean WA1TE On Sun, May 21, 2017, 10:35 Nick Maslon - K1NZ wrote: > The way I see it, do what you enjoy. That's what's great about this hobby. > There are so many things you can do and digimodes and JT are just one of > them. > > Here's an example for you guys. Warwick, E51WL is, as far as I know, the > only active ham on one of the North Cook Islands. He only works JT (that > I'm aware of). Is my QSO on top band with him the other night invalid? Do I > have to wait potentially decades for the next dxpedition to work someone on > phone or CW for it to be a "real" QSO? Following that logic, I guess I'm > not a real ham because I'm a "ditless wonder" (no code extra) and didn't > walk uphill 20 miles in a blizzard to the FCC office to take my novice > test. > > I guess my point here is that we should be having fun and enjoying the > hobby. There are so many facets to this hobby. Play with the ones you enjoy > and keep you active. Other people have other interests and that doesn't > mean that they're any less of a ham. Hell, some of the digital modes are > bringing new, young, blood to an otherwise OM's hobby. > > I apologize for getting a little ranty. I'll crawl back into my hole now. > > 73 and the best of DX for everyone, > Nick K1NZ > > > On the Droid. > _ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: to JT or not to JT
The way I see it, do what you enjoy. That's what's great about this hobby. There are so many things you can do and digimodes and JT are just one of them. Here's an example for you guys. Warwick, E51WL is, as far as I know, the only active ham on one of the North Cook Islands. He only works JT (that I'm aware of). Is my QSO on top band with him the other night invalid? Do I have to wait potentially decades for the next dxpedition to work someone on phone or CW for it to be a "real" QSO? Following that logic, I guess I'm not a real ham because I'm a "ditless wonder" (no code extra) and didn't walk uphill 20 miles in a blizzard to the FCC office to take my novice test. I guess my point here is that we should be having fun and enjoying the hobby. There are so many facets to this hobby. Play with the ones you enjoy and keep you active. Other people have other interests and that doesn't mean that they're any less of a ham. Hell, some of the digital modes are bringing new, young, blood to an otherwise OM's hobby. I apologize for getting a little ranty. I'll crawl back into my hole now. 73 and the best of DX for everyone, Nick K1NZ On the Droid. _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: To JT or not to JT
This sounds like a question that will always be around. To me the great thing about all of this is the increase in activity on a band that does have some rough times with propagation. I know that for myself, using the JT modes along with my very inefficient antenna and 'low' power, has certainly helped me work many stations on a great band. It also has encouraged me to improve my station for 160. 73 es DX Art w1aer On 5/20/2017 1:51 PM, DXer wrote: Right! When we see some of issues that are popping up now, such as remotes being used outside ones entity but claimed as inside, to argue about which mode is worthy or not, is misguided. In addition, is not like 160 is a crowded band. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-20 1:25 PM, rick darwicki via Topband wrote: There is no question. get them anyway you can mixed. If you want an all CW, SSB or Digital, go for it but don't belittle guys that don't have 500 ft. beverages in 6 directions and full size 4 squares for transmitting. I have 91 countries on topband with an S-7/8 noise level and if it takes JT to get the last 9, so be it, then I'll worry about picking up the others on CW later. We don't hear whining that the all CW guys haven't gotten with the 21st century and don't know how to use modern technology, it the AM/SSB flap all over again. Next thing you know people will start complaining "he worked him in June, not the REAL DXer's season" hi hi hi Rick N6PE== There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Art Roberts W1AER Tariffville, CT FN31ov JT9 and JT65 _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: To JT or not to JT
Right! When we see some of issues that are popping up now, such as remotes being used outside ones entity but claimed as inside, to argue about which mode is worthy or not, is misguided. In addition, is not like 160 is a crowded band. :^) 73 de Vince, VA3VF On 2017-05-20 1:25 PM, rick darwicki via Topband wrote: There is no question. get them anyway you can mixed. If you want an all CW, SSB or Digital, go for it but don't belittle guys that don't have 500 ft. beverages in 6 directions and full size 4 squares for transmitting. I have 91 countries on topband with an S-7/8 noise level and if it takes JT to get the last 9, so be it, then I'll worry about picking up the others on CW later. We don't hear whining that the all CW guys haven't gotten with the 21st century and don't know how to use modern technology, it the AM/SSB flap all over again. Next thing you know people will start complaining "he worked him in June, not the REAL DXer's season" hi hi hi Rick N6PE== There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
