Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
Hi everyone, Well it looks like Jesus EC1KR was right, the conditions were very strange and I couldnt hear the pile up calling me but I could hear USA just fine. Anyhow, good thing that the antennas are still working good. 73's and cu everyone in ARRL DX SSB as CR6K CT1ILT Filipe Lopes Citando Jesus EC1KR jesusec...@terra.es: Hi all. Filipe we had the same problem during last CQ 160M SSB in our Team ED1R located in central Spain, when many EU stations calling us and we not listen clear his signals. A friend out of the Contest in EA4 informed us that he listen on Internet from a SDR in HB9 who many stations calling us and from each 3 or 4 stations that calling us we only copy 1, and with many problems, and always saying few times Again, Again, Again :-( We used a Vertical T Inv. with 100 radials and RX Beverages Antenas EU, NA, OC and SA from 180m aprox. Each one. Is very strange because we copy very clear many NA stations and they not copy us, we calling big times to many stations in NA and we worked only 30 or 35 stations aprox. They was working NA-NA only and not listen EU callings. For other part in EU beverages the noisy was very strong, constant and a big problem to listen LP/QRP stations in EU. We have very near a electric tower in EU beverage direction probably was the problem, but in other contest we havent this problem, and we think also that our problem is that our beverages are very short (only 180m aprox.) and we need to have 300m aprox. Or the 3º option is that we had very poor conditions in EA1-EA4/CT during last CQ 160M SSB. 73 to all and see you During next contest. 73 de Jesus EC1KR (ED1R) Blog. www.ec1kr.com -Mensaje original- De: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] En nombre de ct1...@sapo.pt Enviado el: lunes, 27 de febrero de 2012 15:41 Para: topband@contesting.com Asunto: Topband: RX Antenna advice Hi everyone, This past weekend I made a few CQs on 160m in the CQ 160 Contest and while talking to my friend Braco E77DX he told me that I was not hearing well, I had huge pile up coming from Europe but I could not hear a single soul calling. I tried all the antennas available (110m beverage to 10º, 130m beverage to 45º/225º not terminated) and even with the TX antennas (T Vertical and Dipole) I could not hear anyone, the maximum signal I got was with the W6 Beverage (170m). I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? West Beverage work very well but the terrain is either sloping to USA or flat. My question is weather should I give a try on another type of RX antenna just for Europe / ASIA? G3XGC Coaxial Loop ? pennant? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
Beverage antenna running up the mountain to intended direction does not inspire confidence for some number of reasons. What kind of soil is underneath it? Pennant, K9AY, or an array of same, something that rejects back and side, and hears high angle well would seem better suited. Maybe Waller Flag? 73, Guy. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, ct1...@sapo.pt wrote: Hi everyone, This past weekend I made a few CQs on 160m in the CQ 160 Contest and while talking to my friend Braco E77DX he told me that I was not hearing well, I had huge pile up coming from Europe but I could not hear a single soul calling. I tried all the antennas available (110m beverage to 10º, 130m beverage to 45º/225º not terminated) and even with the TX antennas (T Vertical and Dipole) I could not hear anyone, the maximum signal I got was with the W6 Beverage (170m). I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? West Beverage work very well but the terrain is either sloping to USA or flat. My question is weather should I give a try on another type of RX antenna just for Europe / ASIA? G3XGC Coaxial Loop ? pennant? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
Hi Guy, thanks for answer, the soil is pretty bad. Very dry, rocky soil. Filipe Citando Guy Olinger K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net: Beverage antenna running up the mountain to intended direction does not inspire confidence for some number of reasons. What kind of soil is underneath it? Pennant, K9AY, or an array of same, something that rejects back and side, and hears high angle well would seem better suited. Maybe Waller Flag? 73, Guy. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, ct1...@sapo.pt wrote: Hi everyone, This past weekend I made a few CQs on 160m in the CQ 160 Contest and while talking to my friend Braco E77DX he told me that I was not hearing well, I had huge pile up coming from Europe but I could not hear a single soul calling. I tried all the antennas available (110m beverage to 10º, 130m beverage to 45º/225º not terminated) and even with the TX antennas (T Vertical and Dipole) I could not hear anyone, the maximum signal I got was with the W6 Beverage (170m). I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? West Beverage work very well but the terrain is either sloping to USA or flat. My question is weather should I give a try on another type of RX antenna just for Europe / ASIA? G3XGC Coaxial Loop ? pennant? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
Is this a new Beverage antenna, and can you tell us more about it? How are you feeding and grounding it? How steep is the mountain? I've heard of some Beverages running up and/or down some pretty steep slopes that still work fine. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com/Beverage_antennas.html On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:41 AM, ct1...@sapo.pt wrote: I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
Hi all. Filipe we had the same problem during last CQ 160M SSB in our Team ED1R located in central Spain, when many EU stations calling us and we not listen clear his signals. A friend out of the Contest in EA4 informed us that he listen on Internet from a SDR in HB9 who many stations calling us and from each 3 or 4 stations that calling us we only copy 1, and with many problems, and always saying few times Again, Again, Again :-( We used a Vertical T Inv. with 100 radials and RX Beverages Antenas EU, NA, OC and SA from 180m aprox. Each one. Is very strange because we copy very clear many NA stations and they not copy us, we calling big times to many stations in NA and we worked only 30 or 35 stations aprox. They was working NA-NA only and not listen EU callings. For other part in EU beverages the noisy was very strong, constant and a big problem to listen LP/QRP stations in EU. We have very near a electric tower in EU beverage direction probably was the problem, but in other contest we havent this problem, and we think also that our problem is that our beverages are very short (only 180m aprox.) and we need to have 300m aprox. Or the 3º option is that we had very poor conditions in EA1-EA4/CT during last CQ 160M SSB. 73 to all and see you During next contest. 73 de Jesus EC1KR (ED1R) Blog. www.ec1kr.com -Mensaje original- De: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] En nombre de ct1...@sapo.pt Enviado el: lunes, 27 de febrero de 2012 15:41 Para: topband@contesting.com Asunto: Topband: RX Antenna advice Hi everyone, This past weekend I made a few CQs on 160m in the CQ 160 Contest and while talking to my friend Braco E77DX he told me that I was not hearing well, I had huge pile up coming from Europe but I could not hear a single soul calling. I tried all the antennas available (110m beverage to 10º, 130m beverage to 45º/225º not terminated) and even with the TX antennas (T Vertical and Dipole) I could not hear anyone, the maximum signal I got was with the W6 Beverage (170m). I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? West Beverage work very well but the terrain is either sloping to USA or flat. My question is weather should I give a try on another type of RX antenna just for Europe / ASIA? G3XGC Coaxial Loop ? pennant? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice
I use a 450 ft terminated beverage that follows the terrain and slopes downhill by about 50 ft. Seems to work well, but I have nothing to compare it too. 73 Gregg W6IZT -Original Message- From: topband-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger K2AV Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:35 AM To: ct1...@sapo.pt Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: RX Antenna advice Beverage antenna running up the mountain to intended direction does not inspire confidence for some number of reasons. What kind of soil is underneath it? Pennant, K9AY, or an array of same, something that rejects back and side, and hears high angle well would seem better suited. Maybe Waller Flag? 73, Guy. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 9:41 AM, ct1...@sapo.pt wrote: Hi everyone, This past weekend I made a few CQs on 160m in the CQ 160 Contest and while talking to my friend Braco E77DX he told me that I was not hearing well, I had huge pile up coming from Europe but I could not hear a single soul calling. I tried all the antennas available (110m beverage to 10º, 130m beverage to 45º/225º not terminated) and even with the TX antennas (T Vertical and Dipole) I could not hear anyone, the maximum signal I got was with the W6 Beverage (170m). I conclude that somehow my RX antennas are not working properly towards Europe, could it be that the beverages to europe doesnt work well running up the mountain? West Beverage work very well but the terrain is either sloping to USA or flat. My question is weather should I give a try on another type of RX antenna just for Europe / ASIA? G3XGC Coaxial Loop ? pennant? Any advice would be welcome. Thanks Filipe Lopes CT1ILT aka CR6K ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
