Re: Topband: 160 in daylight
Yes, VY2ZM on times is still S7-9 on 160m at 11:00 local time at my location in Germany on 160m. And VE1ZZ calls in around 21:00 local time when he is still in full day light, two hours before I hear any other station from NA. 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Mike Smith VE9AA Sent: Samstag, 13. Mai 2017 17:26 To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband: 160 in daylight Hi Bob, Welcome to 160m ! Milt Jensen N5IA (sk) used his huge array in the 160m contests to work thousands of miles east and west while he was in full sunlight. (In fact I believe he was the one who sponsored a plaque for daylight operation only in the Stew Perry Contests) For some of these exciting reports (too lengthy to reproduce here) go to 3830scores.com and type in N5IA. Look for the Stew Perry Contests (SPTDC) and his call N5IA(N7GP) then read his DAYLIGHT reports. Incidentally the first real exposure to daylight DX I personally experienced was from CY9AA in 1997 when myself, Doug, VE1PZ and Dennis, K7BV setup on that tiny rock in the Gulf of St. Lawrence (N. Atlantic area). We had a wonderful balloon supported 1/4wl wire vertical tied into a massive copper groundscreen (leftover from a VLF beacon) and a salt water Fresnel zone. With that setup and legal limit we were able to work EU a cpl hours before sunset on that desolate rock. An unforgettable experience. Big stations like VY2ZM, VE1ZZ, etc. do the same all the time. It still is exciting ! >From my home with a small-moderate sized 'array' of 2-inverted L's phased I can SOMETIMES work EU just a little before sunset (pre-grayline) here and have worked out as far as KH6/VK/ZL to a little after sunset here(post grayline). Hardly full sun, but it does show what can be done when you think it not possible. Have fun ! Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 160 in daylight
Hi Peter, The 'why not' only applies to the hams who don't want to chat with their 'neighbors' or anybody on the same continent. propagation does play into it and if you are a "DX only" ham 160 is much better at the greyline or at night. There is nothing wrong with being a DX only ham. But for the rest of us 160 is available all the time. The old saw about time and place gets "and band" added to it. It's just a matter of your intent. 73, Bill KU8H PS..my best antennas for 160 and 80 will never be better than a poor compromise. That is still much better than no antenna or radio at all. On 05/13/2017 10:54 AM, Peter Voelpel wrote: Sure it does, why not? 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob via Topband I live in Northeastern Pennsylvania, have only been on 160 a month. I hooked up with station in Lacona, NY which is about 200 miles from my QTH. We decided that the next day at 2pm we would meet on 1.965 MHz. Surprisingly we were able to have a QSO. SIGNALS VARIED FROM S1 TO S 5. iI guess this proves that 160 does WORK in the daytime hours. 73' Bob Reynolds WB3DYE _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- bark less - wag more _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 160 in daylight
Hi Gang, While working at a beginner level on 160, I have dabbled with the band for many years. The subject of daylight operations brought to mind on interesting occurrence. After I returned from Vietnam, in 1969, I setup a basic station which included 160. There was a total lunar eclipse for the East coast during that time in '69. One of the test being run on 160 was if the propagation would change to night time conditions during the eclipse. Worked beautifully, as the sun went away, the band got better. From my QTH in Northern Connecticut, I was hearing Florida stations at the peak. Since I was running low power and a marginal antenna, I was not able to contact anyone, but it was very interesting to hear the change. Several years later I was stationed in Northern California and again was on 160. There was some local daytime activity in the area. Again some interesting propagation occurred then too. I remember one station had a rapid QSB from S9 to S0 and back, and they were like 10 miles away. I figured it was the ground wave and possible sky wave interacting. Some afternoons I do get on JT65 and start listening and calling CQ several hours before sunset and I think it helps stir up activity. Bob, I am glad that you brought up this side of the Top Band. Art w1aer FN31ov On 5/13/2017 11:26 AM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote: Hi Bob, Welcome to 160m ! Milt Jensen N5IA (sk) used his huge array in the 160m contests to work thousands of miles east and west while he was in full sunlight. (In fact I believe he was the one who sponsored a plaque for daylight operation only in the Stew Perry Contests) For some of these exciting reports (too lengthy to reproduce here) go to 3830scores.com and type in N5IA. Look for the Stew Perry Contests (SPTDC) and his call N5IA(N7GP) then read his DAYLIGHT reports. Incidentally the first real exposure to daylight DX I personally experienced was from CY9AA in 1997 when myself, Doug, VE1PZ and Dennis, K7BV setup on that tiny rock in the Gulf of St. Lawrence (N. Atlantic area). We had a wonderful balloon supported 1/4wl wire vertical tied into a massive copper groundscreen (leftover from a VLF beacon) and a salt water Fresnel zone. With that setup and legal limit we were able to work EU a cpl hours before sunset on that desolate rock. An unforgettable experience. Big stations like VY2ZM, VE1ZZ, etc. do the same all the time. It still is exciting ! >From my home with a small-moderate sized 'array' of 2-inverted L's phased I can SOMETIMES work EU just a little before sunset (pre-grayline) here and have worked out as far as KH6/VK/ZL to a little after sunset here(post grayline). Hardly full sun, but it does show what can be done when you think it not possible. Have fun ! Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband -- Art Roberts W1AER Tariffville, CT FN31ov JT9 and JT65 _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: 160 in daylight
Hi Bob, Welcome to 160m ! Milt Jensen N5IA (sk) used his huge array in the 160m contests to work thousands of miles east and west while he was in full sunlight. (In fact I believe he was the one who sponsored a plaque for daylight operation only in the Stew Perry Contests) For some of these exciting reports (too lengthy to reproduce here) go to 3830scores.com and type in N5IA. Look for the Stew Perry Contests (SPTDC) and his call N5IA(N7GP) then read his DAYLIGHT reports. Incidentally the first real exposure to daylight DX I personally experienced was from CY9AA in 1997 when myself, Doug, VE1PZ and Dennis, K7BV setup on that tiny rock in the Gulf of St. Lawrence (N. Atlantic area). We had a wonderful balloon supported 1/4wl wire vertical tied into a massive copper groundscreen (leftover from a VLF beacon) and a salt water Fresnel zone. With that setup and legal limit we were able to work EU a cpl hours before sunset on that desolate rock. An unforgettable experience. Big stations like VY2ZM, VE1ZZ, etc. do the same all the time. It still is exciting ! >From my home with a small-moderate sized 'array' of 2-inverted L's phased I can SOMETIMES work EU just a little before sunset (pre-grayline) here and have worked out as far as KH6/VK/ZL to a little after sunset here(post grayline). Hardly full sun, but it does show what can be done when you think it not possible. Have fun ! Mike VE9AA Mike, Coreen & Corey Keswick Ridge, NB _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Re: Topband: 160 in daylight
Sure it does, why not? 73 Peter -Original Message- From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob via Topband I live in Northeastern Pennsylvania, have only been on 160 a month. I hooked up with station in Lacona, NY which is about 200 miles from my QTH. We decided that the next day at 2pm we would meet on 1.965 MHz. Surprisingly we were able to have a QSO. SIGNALS VARIED FROM S1 TO S 5. iI guess this proves that 160 does WORK in the daytime hours. 73' Bob Reynolds WB3DYE _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
Topband: 160 in daylight
I live in Northeastern Pennsylvania, have only been on 160 a month. I hooked up with station in Lacona, NY which is about 200 miles from my QTH. We decided that the next day at 2pm we would meet on 1.965 MHz. Surprisingly we were able to have a QSO. SIGNALS VARIED FROM S1 TO S 5. iI guess this proves that 160 does WORK in the daytime hours. 73' Bob Reynolds WB3DYE _ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband
