Re: Topband: Airports

2012-09-02 Thread ZR
There has been a private grass strip at the farm that stretches about 250 
acres from directly behind me to almost 3/4 miles down the road.


When I first put up the 160' tower which is about 450' from the property 
line they raised the roof to the town, CAA, FAA, FCC and anyone else that 
would listen. All came to look and listen and hear both sides and walked 
away never to return.
When they told the FAA that they did their turn right over where my house 
and tower is the inspector just looked and said make the turn further out. 
When they said that all their friends were used to that turn he said write 
them a letter. Privately I told them if they were that low over my house 
they best be able to dodge lead. They were coming over at about 100'.


They were also incensed that I didnt get a building permit or ask for their 
permision, neither of which was required. When I had storm damage to the top 
section and went to 180' they didnt say a word.


Thats long past and we are all friendly these days.

Carl
KM1H


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From: Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com

To: TopBand List topband@contesting.com
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:07 PM
Subject: Topband: Airports


On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Lucky me there is no HOA where I live. Mention HOA and everybody says
huh? No way. I am about 4000 feet from the nearest runway but that is
for small aircraft and the 4000 feet is from my home to the *side* of
runway. The tallest tree on my place is about 40 feet high and I don't
want to go very much past that due to that runway AND to just keep a low
profile.



Keep in mind there is no distance restriction for private fields. Item 1 
is particularly important. There are several small fields around me, none 
of which have FAA registration as a public field.


Only the following are restricted:

(1) A public use airport listed in the Airport/Facility Directory, Alaska 
Supplement, or Pacific Chart Supplement of the U.S. Government Flight 
Information Publications;


(2) A military airport under construction, or an airport under 
construction that will be available for public use;


(3) An airport operated by a Federal agency or the DOD.

(4) An airport or heliport with at least one FAA-approved instrument 
approach procedure.




73 Tom

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Topband: Airports

2012-08-31 Thread Tom W8JI
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 6:47 PM, Bill Cromwell wrcromw...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Lucky me there is no HOA where I live. Mention HOA and everybody says
huh? No way. I am about 4000 feet from the nearest runway but that is
for small aircraft and the 4000 feet is from my home to the *side* of
runway. The tallest tree on my place is about 40 feet high and I don't
want to go very much past that due to that runway AND to just keep a low
profile.



Keep in mind there is no distance restriction for private fields. Item 1 is 
particularly important. There are several small fields around me, none of 
which have FAA registration as a public field.


Only the following are restricted:

(1) A public use airport listed in the Airport/Facility Directory, Alaska 
Supplement, or Pacific Chart Supplement of the U.S. Government Flight 
Information Publications;


(2) A military airport under construction, or an airport under construction 
that will be available for public use;


(3) An airport operated by a Federal agency or the DOD.

(4) An airport or heliport with at least one FAA-approved instrument 
approach procedure.




73 Tom

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Re: Topband: Airports

2012-08-31 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:07 -0400, Tom W8JI wrote:

 
 Keep in mind there is no distance restriction for private fields. Item 1 is 
 particularly important. There are several small fields around me, none of 
 which have FAA registration as a public field.
 
 Only the following are restricted:
 
 (1) A public use airport listed in the Airport/Facility Directory, Alaska 
 Supplement, or Pacific Chart Supplement of the U.S. Government Flight 
 Information Publications;
 
 (2) A military airport under construction, or an airport under construction 
 that will be available for public use;
 
 (3) An airport operated by a Federal agency or the DOD.
 
 (4) An airport or heliport with at least one FAA-approved instrument 
 approach procedure.
 
 
 
 73 Tom

Hi Tom,

I have several private messages and some of them tell me that my 4000
foot distance from the side of that runway alone is enough to make it
irrelevant. I don't know about the official status of the airport but I
did find it in an online chart and I can see and measure the distance to
my house on that same chart. The airport is not owned by a private
individual and planes from out yonder land and take off from there daily
(for whatever that is worth). There are also higher objects including a
100 foot tree nearby. Unfortunately that tree is two lots over and no
way to get access. The other local airport is bigger and can handle
twins but is several miles away across the lake - completely irrelevant.

It is evolving that I might put up a metal pole with an 80 meter trap at
the top and add the 160 parts above that. I will use other, smaller
antennas for 40 meters and down. Thanks to everybody for the helpful
comments on and off list.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: Airports

2012-08-31 Thread Tom W8JI

I have several private messages and some of them tell me that my 4000
foot distance from the side of that runway alone is enough to make it
irrelevant. I don't know about the official status of the airport but I
did find it in an online chart and I can see and measure the distance to
my house on that same chart. The airport is not owned by a private
individual and planes from out yonder land and take off from there daily
(for whatever that is worth). There are also higher objects including a
100 foot tree nearby. Unfortunately that tree is two lots over and no
way to get access.


The full text is at this link:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfrsid=f7780e4d527cd2a76a520fe6606ebc9drgn=div5view=textnode=14:2.0.1.2.9idno=14#14:2.0.1.2.9.2.1.3

If the link fails, search FAA CFR Title 14 Part 77.9

At 4000 feet, if the airport qualifies exactly as they specify (not just 
on-line), and the longest runway is over 3200 feet, the slope is 50:1 
4000/50 = 80 feet. Anything below 80 feet, or below trees or other 
obstructions, is not a concern.


If the runway is over 3200 feet, and if the airport is registered as they 
describe (not just on-line), the slope is 100:1. That's 40 feet, but again 
any existing obstructions around you shield your antenna.


73 Tom


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