Topband: QRP Question...

2012-12-31 Thread Jim F.
Had so much fun in the Stew with an Elecraft K1 but it overloaded / 
desensitized with 
many strong signals.  It uses a NE602 equiv. Gilbert Cell product detector.
 
Am thinking about a KX-3 or TenTec 539.  Anyone have comments about
either on 160m ?   Or some other choice ?
 
73
 
Jim / W1FMR
 
 
 
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-13 Thread Roger D Johnson
My pet peeve is the use of QSL. It's supposed to indicate the receipt of a
message. A simple roger will suffice for the receipt of a signal report.

73, Roger (no ten impunded)

On 12/12/2011 4:06 PM, Carl Clawson wrote:
 Another constant irking remarks extant is the use of Roger
 in place of
 over or go ahead.  To which I always remark...my name is
 Herb, not
 Roger... Roger?



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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-13 Thread Ken

On Dec 13, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Roger D Johnson wrote:

 My pet peeve is the use of QSL. It's supposed to indicate the receipt of a
 message. A simple roger will suffice for the receipt of a signal report.


Roger is proper for phone use, it's the old phonetic for R.  Just a plain R 
is proper for CW or keyboard use.   

Ken WA8JXM
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-13 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Yes really. FCC does not rule the world and in this case
FCC is wrong.

Country designator is put before the callsign. This changed
way back in the 1970´ties

Not to confuse things if I go to England and work mobile
I could sign G3/SM2EKM/m or M3/SM2EKM/m, plain and simple
and not confusing.

Not to waist any more BW I will now QSY to a different QRG.

/Jim SM2EKM

On 2011-12-13 06:32, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 Really?

 FCC rules:

 (c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
 indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or
 by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is
 self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and
 after, the call sign.*No self-assigned indicator may conflict with any
 other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned
 to another country.*

 *M  England (M3xxx and M6xxx - Foundation Class Licence,
   All others - Full Licence Grade)   
 14  27*



 As I said nobody enforces this.  Your licensing may be different.

 Mike W0MU

 W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


 On 12/12/2011 10:21 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
 This is so wrong. Please please stop spreading this wrong stuff.

 It is a mobile designator and NO nothing else.

 /Jim SM2EKM
 -
 On 2011-12-12 18:21, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
 Legally signing /M is only legal if you are in England or one of the
 countries that uses the M prefix.  It is readily accepted as Mobile but
 is not a legal designator. I am not sure that most of the ones you
 listed are legal IARU or ITU call designators.  This could vary from
 country to country.



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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-13 Thread Tree
Guys - this QRP thread needs to die.

Thanks.

Tree

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Mike  Coreen Smith ve...@nbnet.nb.ca wrote:
 A very very few times, I have used /QRP,. but 99.9% of the time I don't-
 it's not me...

 I worked VK0IR on 20m SSB in the middle of the night using a couple watts.
 The op stopped, worked me, and we chatted for probably a good minute or two.
 He was quite surprised. No idea who the op was, but I am sure he'd remember,
 even to this day.   I had already worked them days earlier, as plain jane
 VE9AA, so I didn't want to appear in their log  as a dupe.  This was a
 super rare thing to hear my part of the work in the middle of the night on
 20m with 59 signalsthe rest of 20m was stone cold dead(Es link to F2
 I think) so he made a point to find out what was up.  He had been only
 working a very few EU's @ the time.

 If I thought my signal was super weak and the station was asking me for
 repeats, I am smart enough to drop the /QRP like a hot potato and move
 forward with my basic callsign.  It goes both ways.  A little intuitiveness
 goes a long way. (AKA common sense)

 HOWEVER, I don't get all worked up about others signing it to me.  It's
 perfectly fine.  Sometimes, if things are slow, I'll say NICE SIG /QRP OM
 or whatever, if it truly is a nice signal.  Maybe that QRP guy wants to know
 how well he's being heard.  In SSB contests (only if things are slow...) I
 might ask the guy what he's running for an antennahe's not working
 strings of UA0's, so he'll likely stop and tell you.  Relax people.  Let
 them sign what they want to sign.

 I do a lot of HF mobile and I have to sign /M...that's what we are told
 to do here. (nobody thinks I am in the UK, that's just plain silly)

 73 de Mike VE9AA/M

 Mike, Coreen  Corey Smith
 699 Rte 616 Keswick Ridge
 NB
 Canada
 E6L 1T1
  - Original Message -
  From: Jan Erik Holm
  To: topband@contesting.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Topband: QRP Question


  Yes really. FCC does not rule the world and in this case
  FCC is wrong.

  Country designator is put before the callsign. This changed
  way back in the 1970´ties

  Not to confuse things if I go to England and work mobile
  I could sign G3/SM2EKM/m or M3/SM2EKM/m, plain and simple
  and not confusing.

  Not to waist any more BW I will now QSY to a different QRG.

  /Jim SM2EKM
  
  On 2011-12-13 06:32, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
   Really?
  
   FCC rules:
  
   (c) One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each
   indicator must be separated from the call sign by the slant mark (/) or
   by any suitable word that denotes the slant mark. If an indicator is
   self-assigned, it must be included before, after, or both before and
   after, the call sign.*No self-assigned indicator may conflict with any
   other indicator specified by the FCC Rules or with any prefix assigned
   to another country.*
  
   *M              England (M3xxx and M6xxx - Foundation Class Licence,
                             All others - Full Licence Grade)
 14  27*
  
  
  
   As I said nobody enforces this.  Your licensing may be different.
  
   Mike W0MU
  
   W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
  
  
   On 12/12/2011 10:21 PM, Jan Erik Holm wrote:
   This is so wrong. Please please stop spreading this wrong stuff.
  
   It is a mobile designator and NO nothing else.
  
   /Jim SM2EKM
   -
   On 2011-12-12 18:21, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
   Legally signing /M is only legal if you are in England or one of the
   countries that uses the M prefix.  It is readily accepted as Mobile
 but
   is not a legal designator. I am not sure that most of the ones you
   listed are legal IARU or ITU call designators.  This could vary from
   country to country.
  
  
  
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Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread W0UCE


Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
like to learn something - Why? 

So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.  

The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
their call.

73,
Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Ken

On Dec 12, 2011, at 11:58 AM, W0UCE wrote:

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.  

I think it is a plea to accept their weak signal and work them.  Or an 
explanation as to why they are so weak.   

For some, it may be a brag.

Ken WA8JXM

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Ronald Raasch
To sign /qrp is unlegal. Bad behavior. There are only a few legal  
extensions. /p./a/m/am./1-0..Thats all i remember right  
now..

73 Ronald LA3ANA




Am 12.12.2011, 17:58 Uhr, schrieb W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com:



 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would  
 just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP  
 after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me  
 it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Legally signing /M is only legal if you are in England or one of the 
countries that uses the M prefix.  It is readily accepted as Mobile but 
is not a legal designator. I am not sure that most of the ones you 
listed are legal IARU or ITU call designators.  This could vary from 
country to country.

Sending  /qrp just takes up more time and adds more difficulty when 
signals are very very weak.

I also agree that those making contacts with QRP stations should be 
getting the bonuses for doing most of the work not the other way around.


Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 12/12/2011 10:07 AM, Ronald Raasch wrote:
 To sign /qrp is unlegal. Bad behavior. There are only a few legal
 extensions. /p./a/m/am./1-0..Thats all i remember right
 now..

 73 Ronald LA3ANA




 Am 12.12.2011, 17:58 Uhr, schrieb W0UCEw0...@nc.rr.com:


 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would
 just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP
 after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me
 it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Dave Heil
On 12/12/2011 16 58, W0UCE wrote:


 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

Jack,

I've had folks ask me to identify them as /QRP when QSLing them.  I 
tell them that I have to way to tell if they were QRP or not.  Only they 
hold the key to that.

Dave Heil K8MN



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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Thomas Hoeppe
Hello Jack!

I think it makes sense to use /QRP! As someone has written here before, 
there are some (good!) operators out here, who always come back to people 
sending /QRP first when they hear this extension. This helps a lot! I made 
some QRP QSOs with ZL on 40m during contest, in EU pile-up...and made it 
through. Why? The stations on the other side got my /QRP and transmitted 
QRX QRX QRX nw /QRP /QRP kn kn. Making QSOs (specially DX) with QRP is a 
challenge for the QRPers, but the greatest honour is at the station on the 
other side, picking out the QRPer thousands of miles away. And a /QRP is 
defining your output exactly: 5W or less in CW. 4 charcters! This is much 
faster to transport then doing it after the report (my pwr) But it's an 
old discussion. Some of the latest DX-peditions made QSOs with me using /QRP 
after my call in the confirmation, but had decided not lo log this 
extension. They left it away in their log. The Q's showed up in the DJ5RE 
log. I was pretty unhappy at first, but I found my piece concerning that 
problem in knowing what I used during the QSO. But I am happy about every 
QSO that has printed /QRP or /QRPP on it, when I used it. Crossing the 
atlantic with 100mW is still very exciting for me, and having it confirmed 
on a card is a great thing.

My 2 cents...

73s (and often 72s) from Bavaria!

Tom, DJ5RE

- Original Message - 
From: W0UCE w0...@nc.rr.com
To: topband@contesting.com
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 5:58 PM
Subject: Topband: QRP Question




 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would 
 just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP 
 after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
Many are just looking for an edge to be heard in a pileup and I have 
heard it work.  I don't listen for QRP or Mobile or whatever.  I just 
want a callsign.  Many times QRP stations are just as loud as the rest, 
same with mobiles.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 12/12/2011 10:23 AM, James Rodenkirch wrote:
 I have a crass answer (based on something heard in a movie that Bert Reynolds 
 starred in some years back) butthe short answer is, in my opinion, those 
 operators who do sign /qrp don't think much of themselves, their equipment or 
 their antenna!  Something has them thinking small about themselves and that 
 couldn't be a more in-accurate assessment of themselves or their equipment.

 But - can't help 'em




 From: w0...@nc.rr.com
 To: topband@contesting.com
 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:58:22 -0500
 Subject: Topband: QRP Question



 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Jack,

The great thing about chasing DX on TB is that soon one chooses to 
eschew superfluous or confusing  transmission of CW characters because 
they hinder.  I am glad you brought this issue up and  I believe the 
reason in some cases with QRPers could be that the flea power insecurity 
syndrome abounds and needs to be mollified.

Most experienced seasoned QRPers would never use the /QRP appendage but 
rather would personally cherish the contact they made with 5 watts or 
less.  No need to explain away anything.  There is also perhaps a 
feeling that a weak signal must be explained away so the QRP'er is held 
blameless for not having what it takes to be adequate,  or I am 
impotent because I choose not to be potent.

In the past days of amateur radio S1 or S2 was categorized as weak.  
(On160 with DX who cares in you can work them?) However, using the term 
weak is considered today to lack political correctness and unkind. 
Today the term hams use to describe a weak signal is You are light with 
me.

Another constant irking remarks extant is the use of Roger in place of 
over or go ahead.  To which I always remark...my name is Herb, not 
Roger... Roger?

The whole thing is now  turned upside down and some insist we no longer 
refer to each others as top-banders but instead we are instead 
'low-banders'.

73,

Herb KV4FZ




On 12/12/2011 12:58 PM, W0UCE wrote:

 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread w7dra
 to me running QRP in 160m contests is the great equalizer. my NC183 is
now the equal of the FT12000 MKVII MODXXX with 35 roofing filters. my
ARC5 with VR150 regulated voltage sounds no different than the K3
etcetcetc. all the electronic logging in the world doesn't do better than
a simple lead pencil if all you can make is 12 contacts in a CQWW
contest.

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread w7dra
i think i was M/W7DRA/P, ah yes, in Canterbury..if i
remember...


mike w7dra, back when i had money to travel

 
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:21:01 -0700 W0MU Mike Fatchett w...@w0mu.com
writes:
 Legally signing /M is only legal if you are in England or one of the 
 
 countries that uses the M prefix.  It is readily accepted as Mobile 
 but 
 is not a legal designator. I am not sure that most of the ones you 
 listed are legal IARU or ITU call designators.  This could vary from 
 
 country to country.
 
 Sending  /qrp just takes up more time and adds more difficulty when 
 
 signals are very very weak.
 
 I also agree that those making contacts with QRP stations should be 
 
 getting the bonuses for doing most of the work not the other way 
 around.
 
 
 Mike W0MU
 
 W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
 
 
 On 12/12/2011 10:07 AM, Ronald Raasch wrote:
  To sign /qrp is unlegal. Bad behavior. There are only a few legal
  extensions. /p./a/m/am./1-0..Thats all i remember 
 right
  now..
 
  73 Ronald LA3ANA
 
 
 
 
  Am 12.12.2011, 17:58 Uhr, schrieb W0UCEw0...@nc.rr.com:
 
 
  Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and 
 please note
  the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I 
 would
  just
  like to learn something - Why?
 
  So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send 
 /QRP
  after
  a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't 
 care if the
  station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.
 
  The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? 
 To me
  it
  makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or 
 /QRO after
  their call.
 
  73,
  Jack
 
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Don Kirk


Let me play the devils advocate and put a spin on why you might want to sign 
/qrp when calling CQ.


1)  If I work you and you sign /qrp, then I will send you a QSL card that says 
K9JWV/qrp (or whatever your call might be), but if you don't say you are qrp, 
then you will get a card that says K9JWV and no mention that I am confirming 
you worked me while you were running qrp.

2)  You also might want to sign /qrp when calling CQ if you are trying to 
attract other qrp operators.  If I hear someone sign /qrp when they call CQ, I 
often fire up my QRP rig since I suspect they will be able to hear me just as 
well as I am hearing them.

Don (wd8dsb)

 

 


 
 
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread James Rodenkirch

Well, Don - when I submit QSL cards to ARRL for an award such as my WAS QRP 
certificate the QSL cards don't say K9JWV/QRP on it - that's an attestation I 
have to send along when I apply for the certificate.here's another reason 
NOT to sign /QRP --- I work some fella, sign /QRP and he submits our QSO to 
LoTW as K9JWV/QRP and I submit mine to LoTW as a K9JWV QSO and LoTW won't 
recognize that QSOit'll be on of those zombies...

I do understand your comment about signing /QRP if searching other QRP 
operators, especially if you're at or near one of the QRP watering holes...


 To: topband@contesting.com
 From: wd8...@aol.com
 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 14:57:49 -0500
 Subject: Re: Topband: QRP Question
 
 
 
 Let me play the devils advocate and put a spin on why you might want to sign 
 /qrp when calling CQ.
 
 
 1)  If I work you and you sign /qrp, then I will send you a QSL card that 
 says K9JWV/qrp (or whatever your call might be), but if you don't say you are 
 qrp, then you will get a card that says K9JWV and no mention that I am 
 confirming you worked me while you were running qrp.
 
 2)  You also might want to sign /qrp when calling CQ if you are trying to 
 attract other qrp operators.  If I hear someone sign /qrp when they call CQ, 
 I often fire up my QRP rig since I suspect they will be able to hear me just 
 as well as I am hearing them.
 
 Don (wd8dsb)
 
  
 
  
 
 
  
  
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Bill Cromwell
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:58 -0500, W0UCE wrote:
 
 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
 like to learn something - Why? 
 
 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.  
 
 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.
 
 73,
 Jack
 
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Hi Jack,

I rarely attach /QRP to my call. The exceptions might be in a QRP
contest (sprint) where other hams are searching for QRP stations. I send
my call and see what happens next the same as everybody else. I started
working QRP with a brand new ham license in 1980 and I still haven't
exceeded 100 watts. All of my transmitters *CAN* produce more than 5
watts up to 100 watts for some of them. All of them can dial down under
one watt, too, and are most often under 30 watts. Sometimes QRPp is just
not appropriate. On the other hand, if I need to scream at full legal
power I would prefer to go play my music for a while. Or find a ham band
with better propagation.

If other QRP ops want to hang that /QRP on their call well that is their
choice and has no effect on me at all. If they're calling CQ and I hear
them I'm up for a chat.

73,

Bill  KU8H

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Carl Clawson
 Another constant irking remarks extant is the use of Roger 
 in place of 
 over or go ahead.  To which I always remark...my name is 
 Herb, not 
 Roger... Roger?

Heh heh. Good one, Herb.

Adhering to ITU phonetics one should say Romeo but I've never heard that. 

73, Carl WS7L

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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread James Rodenkirch

I don't know of ONE award (I'm speaking of ARRL awards now) that requires the 
QSL to have /qrp on it, Carl...can you state one instance of that being a 
requirement???  

I have QRP WAS and WAC and none of my QSL cards have a /qrp identifier anywhere 
on the card..I hope to have QRP WAS on 160 meters completed this winter and 
none of the QSLs sent to me list me as K9JWV/QRP...in fact, from an LoTW 
perspective, having a station I worked list me as K9JWV/QRP probably puts that 
record into the zombie status.

Regards, Jim R. K9JWV

 


 From: z...@jeremy.mv.com
 To: rodenkirch_...@msn.com; w0...@nc.rr.com; topband@contesting.com
 Subject: Re: Topband: QRP Question
 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:31:37 -0500
 
 Since there are QRP awards the QSL's have to include/QRP to be accepted.
 
 There are more illegal QRO ops than the few who cheat with /QRP so quit with 
 the silly bickering.
 
 How would you like it if the shoe was on the other foot?
 
 Carl
 KM1H
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: James Rodenkirch rodenkirch_...@msn.com
 To: w0...@nc.rr.com; topband@contesting.com
 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:23 PM
 Subject: Re: Topband: QRP Question
 
 
 
  I have a crass answer (based on something heard in a movie that Bert 
  Reynolds starred in some years back) butthe short answer is, in my 
  opinion, those operators who do sign /qrp don't think much of themselves, 
  their equipment or their antenna!  Something has them thinking small about 
  themselves and that couldn't be a more in-accurate assessment of 
  themselves or their equipment.
 
  But - can't help 'em
 
 
 
 
  From: w0...@nc.rr.com
  To: topband@contesting.com
  Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 11:58:22 -0500
  Subject: Topband: QRP Question
 
 
 
  Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
  the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would 
  just
  like to learn something - Why?
 
  So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP 
  after
  a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
  station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.
 
  The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me 
  it
  makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
  their call.
 
  73,
  Jack
 
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Re: Topband: QRP Question

2011-12-12 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Thank you very much Martin, I couldn´t have put i better myself.

And as an advice, if some QRP station wants to work me don´t
even try once with /qrp mickey mouse stuff, there will be no QSO.

/Jim SM2EKM
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On 2011-12-12 20:59, Martin Kratoska wrote:
 For sure, among worst violations of good operating practice is the (now
 very common and massive) use of /QRP, ie. OK1RR/QRP. There is no other
 reason than to attract more attention than others (using regular call
 sign). ITU RR recognizes only /P, /M, /MM and /AM, national authorities
 sometimes allowing a numbered ID indicating a region, ie. SM5ABC/4. All
 other call signs must be issued in accordance with the regular licensing
 mechanism (like OL1A/JP, Pope's visit in OK, there was a special call
 OL1A/JP, issued with the slash and the JP appendix). Some other IDs are
 issued in groups for limited time, like /J for Jamboree stations, /L for
 school stations etc.

 More
 http://www.ok1rr.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.57

 A trend to attract more attention than others is really one of the worst
 possible examples of bad behaviour and should be not tolerated (BTW
 nothing against possible penalization of /QRP users). I find /QRP very
 annoying in contests and pile-ups, it impedes a fast, hig rate operating.

 QRP is not your_call/QRP!

 73
 Martin, OK1RR

 Dne 12.12.2011 17:58, W0UCE napsal(a):


 Maybe and experienced QRP OP can answer a question for me and please note
 the question is not intended to anger anyone or start a flame. I would just
 like to learn something - Why?

 So here is the question:  Why do some using QRP continually send /QRP after
 a CQ, their call or a contest exchange?  In a contest I don't care if the
 station I work is QRP, LP or QRO - a QSO is a QSO.

 The same when calling CQ or during a rag chewing - Why send /QRP? To me it
 makes no more sense than someone sending /100w, /LP, /1500w or /QRO after
 their call.

 73,
 Jack

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