Re: Topband: Spam:************, Re: Deployable radials for 80/160M

2014-06-26 Thread Herb Schoenbohm
Wish we had a Lowes here in the VI but I will look and see if Home Depot 
has a solid wire equivalent. They have THHN is stranded but I am not 
sure about solid insulated #14 as i have not ever seen that.


Herb, KV4FZ




On 6/26/2014 8:17 AM, Dave Heil wrote:
That seems a little too much work when Lowe's sells 500 foot spools of 
insulated #14 for $45.


73,

Dave K8MN

On 6/24/2014 19 46, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:

I found a great source for radial wire at home Depot where they have
100' rolls of 14-2 packaged for under $40.  Two conductors are insulated
and one of course is not after the easy job of striping them across a
bench jig or simple having a second person hold a pocket knife while you
pull the conductors apart you end up with 300 feet of higher quality
ground radial material. 2 each  100 foot insulated radials due to the VF
are very close to 1/4 wave consideration and the the shorter 100 foot
bare doesn't hurt either.  This of course brings up the issue of mixing
bare and insulated wire in any ground system so I use the bare conductor
for other 80 and 40 verticals.  Yet the sum of the three wires is
cheaper than buying them individually it seems.


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Re: Topband: Spam:************, Re: Deployable radials for 80/160M

2014-06-26 Thread MU 4CX250B
The best price I could find for THHN stranded 14AWG wire was from an
ordinary local electrical supply house. I bought three 2500 ft spools
for about $90 each (for sixty 120 ft radials). Lowes and Home Depot
only carried shorter lengths and were substantially more expensive.
73,
Jim W8ZR



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 On Jun 26, 2014, at 9:33 AM, Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net wrote:

 Wish we had a Lowes here in the VI but I will look and see if Home Depot has 
 a solid wire equivalent. They have THHN is stranded but I am not sure about 
 solid insulated #14 as i have not ever seen that.

 Herb, KV4FZ




 On 6/26/2014 8:17 AM, Dave Heil wrote:
 That seems a little too much work when Lowe's sells 500 foot spools of 
 insulated #14 for $45.

 73,

 Dave K8MN

 On 6/24/2014 19 46, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:
 I found a great source for radial wire at home Depot where they have
 100' rolls of 14-2 packaged for under $40.  Two conductors are insulated
 and one of course is not after the easy job of striping them across a
 bench jig or simple having a second person hold a pocket knife while you
 pull the conductors apart you end up with 300 feet of higher quality
 ground radial material. 2 each  100 foot insulated radials due to the VF
 are very close to 1/4 wave consideration and the the shorter 100 foot
 bare doesn't hurt either.  This of course brings up the issue of mixing
 bare and insulated wire in any ground system so I use the bare conductor
 for other 80 and 40 verticals.  Yet the sum of the three wires is
 cheaper than buying them individually it seems.

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Re: Topband: Spam:************, Re: Deployable radials for 80/160M

2014-06-26 Thread Matthew King - KK4CPS
Wouldn't stranded wire be preferred for such a use?  Maybe I'm missing
something, but it seems that solid wire would be more prone to breakage.

Matt
KK4CPS


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net
wrote:

 Wish we had a Lowes here in the VI but I will look and see if Home Depot
 has a solid wire equivalent. They have THHN is stranded but I am not sure
 about solid insulated #14 as i have not ever seen that.

 Herb, KV4FZ




 On 6/26/2014 8:17 AM, Dave Heil wrote:

 That seems a little too much work when Lowe's sells 500 foot spools of
 insulated #14 for $45.

 73,

 Dave K8MN

 On 6/24/2014 19 46, Herb Schoenbohm wrote:

 I found a great source for radial wire at home Depot where they have
 100' rolls of 14-2 packaged for under $40.  Two conductors are insulated
 and one of course is not after the easy job of striping them across a
 bench jig or simple having a second person hold a pocket knife while you
 pull the conductors apart you end up with 300 feet of higher quality
 ground radial material. 2 each  100 foot insulated radials due to the VF
 are very close to 1/4 wave consideration and the the shorter 100 foot
 bare doesn't hurt either.  This of course brings up the issue of mixing
 bare and insulated wire in any ground system so I use the bare conductor
 for other 80 and 40 verticals.  Yet the sum of the three wires is
 cheaper than buying them individually it seems.


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Re: Topband: Spam:************, Re: Deployable radials for 80/160M

2014-06-26 Thread mstangelo
Matt,

I started using surplus stranded high temperature teflon coated wire for my 
radial system because I got it at a good price. It is flexible and easy to work 
with but I noticed that if the ends were not sealed of if there were breaks in 
the insulation it would soak up water via capillary action. I needed more wire 
to finish my 36 radial system so I decided to try 14 gauge THHN insulated wire 
from Lowes. It is not as flexible but I should not have to worry about it 
absorbing water.

Most of my radial system is in the wooded area of by property. I have some 
radials on the grassy area of my yard that I move in the summer. I use the 
solid wire for the permanent installation and the stranded wire for the 
seasonal installation.



Mike N2MS

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Subject: Re: Topband: Spam:, Re: Deployable radials for 80/160M

Wouldn't stranded wire be preferred for such a use?  Maybe I'm missing
something, but it seems that solid wire would be more prone to breakage.

Matt
KK4CPS


On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Herb Schoenbohm he...@vitelcom.net
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