Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 107, Issue 28
Hi Barry But it's taking up a lot of band width for no apparent reason. in my own humble opinion, any further discussion is a waste of cyberspace. I, for one, have not found it boring. I don't believe we now know all there is to know, and text does not take much file space. Some just tune up and work 'em and some are more interested in the why and how. 73 Bob VE7BS ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 107, Issue 28
Some people would rather play with antennas than get on the air, if that's their thing go for it. ME I would rather get on the air and work stations. I just let my auto tuner make the rig happy losses on 160 are not that high. But then I remember a time when I needed a station on 24 Mhz so I made up a Dipole on the shack floor and climbed up to the 60 ft level of my tower in a snow storm and installed it as a sloped dipole. worked him on the first call I couldn't believe it !! ED K8OT In a message dated 11/19/2011 10:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, w9...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 11/19/2011 2:00:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, topband-requ...@contesting.com writes: K2AV olin...@bellsouth.net You know Guy, your diatribes are a sure cure for insomnia. I have a buddy who sez Stop measuring everything, tune up, and work 'em. I think at times he's right and yet I like to measure things. As for your subject, it's a moot point. Apparently a lot of others prefer to play your game rather than just tune up and work 'em. But it's taking up a lot of band width for no apparent reason. The moderator has been very lenient for some reason I don't understand. That's his choice. Guess he wants everyone to have their say, even if it is boring and doesn't change what they have to work with in their back yard. I prefer to read the classics on the subject that have the most to do with what is important to Hams that want to work DX on 160... like G3HRH,”The Ground Beneath Us,” RSGB June, 1966, pp.375-385, or perhaps G.H. Brown, “ The Phase and Magnitude of Earth Currents Near Radio Transmitting Antennas,” Proc. Of the IRE, February 1935, Volume 23, Number 2, or what you have been quoting, Brown, R.F. Lewis, J. Epstein, “Ground Systems as a Factor in Antenna Efficiency,” Proceedings Of the IRE, June, 1937, Volume 25, Number 6. Nothing much else has clarified the issues lately other than the work of A.C. Doty Jr., J.A. Frey, H.J. Mills, “Efficient Ground Systems for Vertical Antennas, ”QST, Feb., 1983 and R. Severns, “Experimental Determination of Ground System Performance for HF Verticals,”QEX, Jan/Feb 2009 through Jan/Feb 2010. After wading through those, any Ham should be able to make their own good decisions as to the compromises they want to make in their own stations. In my own humble opinion, any further discussion is a waste of cyberspace. Thanks for your great concern for everyone's success, Guy. Now why don't you just tune up and work 'em? 73, best DX, Barry ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 107, Issue 28
On 11/20/2011 5:58 PM, gedk...@aol.com wrote: Some people would rather play with antennas than get on the air, if that's their thing go for it. ME I would rather get on the air and work stations. I just let my auto tuner make the rig happy losses on 160 are not that high. But then I remember a time when I needed a station on 24 Mhz so I made up a Dipole on the shack floor and climbed up to the 60 ft level of my tower in a snow storm and installed it as a sloped dipole. worked him on the first call I couldn't believe it !! ED K8OT In a message dated 11/19/2011 10:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, w9...@aol.com writes: In a message dated 11/19/2011 2:00:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, topband-requ...@contesting.com writes: K2AVolin...@bellsouth.net You know Guy, your diatribes are a sure cure for insomnia. I have a buddy who sez Stop measuring everything, tune up, and work 'em. I think at times he's right and yet I like to measure things. As for your subject, it's a moot point. Apparently a lot of others prefer to play your game rather than just tune up and work 'em. But it's taking up a lot of band width for no apparent reason. The moderator has been very lenient for some reason I don't understand. That's his choice. Guess he wants everyone to have their say, even if it is boring and doesn't change what they have to work with in their back yard. I prefer to read the classics on the subject that have the most to do with what is important to Hams that want to work DX on 160... like G3HRH,”The Ground Beneath Us,” RSGB June, 1966, pp.375-385, or perhaps G.H. Brown, “ The Phase and Magnitude of Earth Currents Near Radio Transmitting Antennas,” Proc. Of the IRE, February 1935, Volume 23, Number 2, or what you have been quoting, Brown, R.F. Lewis, J. Epstein, “Ground Systems as a Factor in Antenna Efficiency,” Proceedings Of the IRE, June, 1937, Volume 25, Number 6. Nothing much else has clarified the issues lately other than the work of A.C. Doty Jr., J.A. Frey, H.J. Mills, “Efficient Ground Systems for Vertical Antennas, ”QST, Feb., 1983 and R. Severns, “Experimental Determination of Ground System Performance for HF Verticals,”QEX, Jan/Feb 2009 through Jan/Feb 2010. After wading through those, any Ham should be able to make their own good decisions as to the compromises they want to make in their own stations. In my own humble opinion, any further discussion is a waste of cyberspace. Thanks for your great concern for everyone's success, Guy. Now why don't you just tune up and work 'em? 73, best DX, Barry ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 107, Issue 28
Hi Everyone, There are good antennas and everything in between. But the big variable is propagation. I have been on this band for about 18 or 20 years. I can not tell you how many hours I have waited for the deep QSB fades to cease just to work a KP2 from AZ to get another mult. The bottom line is no matter what you have as an antenna, the propagation rules. GL 73 Hardy N7RT - Original Message - From: John Harden jh...@bellsouth.net To: topband@contesting.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 4:14 PM Subject: Re: Topband: Topband Digest, Vol 107, Issue 28 On 11/20/2011 5:58 PM, gedk...@aol.com wrote: Some people would rather play with antennas than get on the air, if that's their thing go for it. ME I would rather get on the air and work stations. I just let my auto tuner make the rig happy losses on 160 are not that high. But then I remember a time when I needed a station on 24 Mhz so I made up a Dipole on the shack floor and climbed up to the 60 ft level of my tower in a snow storm and installed it as a sloped dipole. worked him on the first call I couldn't believe it !! ED K8OT ___ UR RST IS ... ... ..9 QSB QSB - hw? BK
