Hi Bill, Just to see what would happen I even took the top off with the blow touch right on the material and it would just glow and never ignite. I am thinking the material has gotten old and not longer wants to ignite. I would think the blow torch would be as hot as any spark. Any other comments welcome. I am going to try another container of the igniter but they have all been stored in the same area possibly 10 years. 73 Mike
From: topband-requ...@contesting.com Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:00 PM To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Topband Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19 Send Topband mailing list submissions to topband@contesting.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to topband-requ...@contesting.com You can reach the person managing the list at topband-ow...@contesting.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Topband digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: CADWELLS (Bill Wichers) 2. Re: CADWELLS (Art Snapper) 3. Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests (Kris Mraz) 4. Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests (Andy Blank) 5. Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests (Stan Stockton) 6. Re: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests (W0MU Mike Fatchett) 7. Fw: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests (k1fz) 8. Re: What IS troubling about this report (Walt) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 02:11:00 +0000 From: Bill Wichers <bi...@waveform.net> To: Cecil <chac...@cableone.net> Cc: TOPBAND <TOPBAND@CONTESTING.COM>, Mike Greenway <k...@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Topband: CADWELLS Message-ID: <2fb91b25-63dd-4b9a-931f-583d0e1ca...@waveform.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Just to add: the spark igniter is a flint-type unit. Those used for starting a torch would probably work too but would be more difficult to aim into the mold than the gun-like cadweld ones are. -Bill Sent from my iPhone On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:35 PM, "Cecil" <chac...@cableone.net> wrote: > There is a spark igniter that is used with cadweld...I've had trouble > lighting them off with a propane torch. Usually if they have been stored in > a dry location they are good for years. The blue tube is loaded with an > igniting compound in the bottom...so it is the last thing that goes into the > mold and a small amount of it is trailed over the edge to facilitate lighting > once the lid is closed. So just any of the powder won't light off you have > to light off the starter powder. > > Cecil > > Sent using recycled electrons. > >> On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:58 PM, "Mike Greenway" <k...@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> >> I some have old style Cadwell that require lighting off with a torch. I >> have had them for many years and apparently the chemical mixture has gotten >> too old to fire off as I tried one today and just no reaction. Has anyone >> run into this before? Don?t guess there anything easily mixed up to replace >> the thermo compound. 73 Mike K4PI >> _________________ >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:57:50 -0400 From: Art Snapper <a...@nk8x.net> Cc: TOPBAND <TOPBAND@contesting.com> Subject: Re: Topband: CADWELLS Message-ID: <CAH6Jzym390g=l0nmzcgxrybnhncbre7fespf65eqzpfb1up...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Sparklers (kids fireworks) can be an effective fuse for Cadwelds. It even works in the rain. 73 Art On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Bill Wichers <bi...@waveform.net> wrote: > Just to add: the spark igniter is a flint-type unit. Those used for > starting a torch would probably work too but would be more difficult to aim > into the mold than the gun-like cadweld ones are. > > -Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Mar 16, 2015, at 9:35 PM, "Cecil" <chac...@cableone.net> wrote: > > > There is a spark igniter that is used with cadweld...I've had trouble > lighting them off with a propane torch. Usually if they have been stored > in a dry location they are good for years. The blue tube is loaded with an > igniting compound in the bottom...so it is the last thing that goes into > the mold and a small amount of it is trailed over the edge to facilitate > lighting once the lid is closed. So just any of the powder won't light off > you have to light off the starter powder. > > > > Cecil > > > > Sent using recycled electrons. > > > >> On Mar 16, 2015, at 5:58 PM, "Mike Greenway" <k...@bellsouth.net> > wrote: > >> > >> I some have old style Cadwell that require lighting off with a torch. > I have had them for many years and apparently the chemical mixture has > gotten too old to fire off as I tried one today and just no reaction. Has > anyone run into this before? Don?t guess there anything easily mixed up to > replace the thermo compound. 73 Mike K4PI > >> _________________ > >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > > _________________ > > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 22:40:35 -0500 From: Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests Message-ID: <CAL386n=iamh4kh+tqcpwz3cvsvraa9geg9v8phmms2zfzxe...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 CQWW used to have the Xtreme category that allowed/encouraged remote internet stations. Seems like that's the place for those who want to use remote receivers. I haven't kept up with that category but I believe it was dropped in 2013. Kris, N5KM ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:27:53 -0400 From: Andy Blank <andyn...@gmail.com> To: Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests Message-ID: <CAP+eef+AXbNU_0O7cfedLnMMM50FhZYesuP8bkZo3mn=kbz...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Guys, please keep up this discussion. I am reading all the comments, and it helps to hear what people are thinking. I won't make any personal comments until after I digest it all. I will tell one little story about last night. Although I am not really a DXer, I happened upon the E30 on 1811 with a very strong signal. There was a huge pileup of USA calling, including me. He worked just a couple of EU stations, and no USA that I could tell. It occurred to me he should just dial into to a Web SDR and listen. But that is not a pure radio QSO.... If he has local noise they need to figure out a way to hear on site. Or maybe not... I am so confused. 73, Andy N2NT On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> wrote: > CQWW used to have the Xtreme category that allowed/encouraged remote > internet stations. > Seems like that's the place for those who want to use remote > receivers. I haven't kept up with > that category but I believe it was dropped in 2013. > > Kris, N5KM > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:56:01 -0500 From: Stan Stockton <wa5...@gmail.com> To: Andy Blank <andyn...@gmail.com> Cc: Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com>, "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com> Subject: Re: Topband: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests Message-ID: <c547be9a-d108-40d1-95c6-1c97e6bc0...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Andy, > But that is not a pure radio QSO.... If he has local noise they need to > figure out a way to hear on site. You were not confused with that thought. It was crystal clear thinking regarding what constitutes a valid two way QSO between two station locations without other communication methods involved. It's going to be 70 degrees today. Be the ball, Andy :-) 73...Stan, K5GO Sent from my iPad > On Mar 17, 2015, at 9:27 AM, Andy Blank <andyn...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Guys, please keep up this discussion. > I am reading all the comments, and it helps to hear what people are > thinking. > I won't make any personal comments until after I digest it all. > > I will tell one little story about last night. > Although I am not really a DXer, I happened upon the E30 on 1811 with a > very strong signal. > There was a huge pileup of USA calling, including me. > He worked just a couple of EU stations, and no USA that I could tell. > It occurred to me he should just dial into to a Web SDR and listen. > But that is not a pure radio QSO.... If he has local noise they need to > figure out a way to hear on site. Or maybe not... I am so confused. > > 73, Andy N2NT > > >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> CQWW used to have the Xtreme category that allowed/encouraged remote >> internet stations. >> Seems like that's the place for those who want to use remote >> receivers. I haven't kept up with >> that category but I believe it was dropped in 2013. >> >> Kris, N5KM >> _________________ >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 09:07:54 -0600 From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w...@w0mu.com> To: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests Message-ID: <5508434a.7040...@w0mu.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed We are are going to allow remote receivers, why not remote transmitters all over the world too...It if were legal. We might as well just get on any one of the messaging systems, Facebook, Apple, Hangouts, Skype and have contests and free up the airwaves for more important stuff. You need to hear my transmitter from your location and I need to hear yours from mine. I am a proponent of remote radio where ALL of the receiving and transmitting is done from the same SINGLE remote site with the same distance radius for that equipment to be in. Mike W0MU On 3/17/2015 8:27 AM, Andy Blank wrote: > Guys, please keep up this discussion. > I am reading all the comments, and it helps to hear what people are > thinking. > I won't make any personal comments until after I digest it all. > > I will tell one little story about last night. > Although I am not really a DXer, I happened upon the E30 on 1811 with a > very strong signal. > There was a huge pileup of USA calling, including me. > He worked just a couple of EU stations, and no USA that I could tell. > It occurred to me he should just dial into to a Web SDR and listen. > But that is not a pure radio QSO.... If he has local noise they need to > figure out a way to hear on site. Or maybe not... I am so confused. > > 73, Andy N2NT > > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> CQWW used to have the Xtreme category that allowed/encouraged remote >> internet stations. >> Seems like that's the place for those who want to use remote >> receivers. I haven't kept up with >> that category but I believe it was dropped in 2013. >> >> Kris, N5KM >> _________________ >> Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband >> > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 10:12:00 -0500 From: "k1fz" <k...@myfairpoint.net> To: <topband@contesting.com> Subject: Topband: Fw: Use of Remote Receivers During 160 Meter Contests Message-ID: <004201d060c4$b898c2e0$2e01a8c0@w1tjq> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Ham radio, like life in general, is evolving. With a lot of technology change, it's a good time to breath some fresh air and let it jell out. E30FB did work a few NA, but only on signal peaks. Other wise they had problems receiving in deep QRM. (Even VE1ZZ had to repeat his call). 73 Bruce-K1FZ www.qsl.net/k1fz/pennantnotes.html . Although I am not really a DXer, I happened upon the E30 on 1811 with a very strong signal. There was a huge pileup of USA calling, including me. He worked just a couple of EU stations, and no USA that I could tell. It occurred to me he should just dial into to a Web SDR and listen. But that is not a pure radio QSO.... If he has local noise they need to figure out a way to hear on site. Or maybe not... I am so confused. 73, Andy N2NT On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:40 PM, Kris Mraz <n5kilom...@gmail.com> wrote: > CQWW used to have the Xtreme category that allowed/encouraged remote > internet stations. > Seems like that's the place for those who want to use remote > receivers. I haven't kept up with > that category but I believe it was dropped in 2013. > > Kris, N5KM ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2015 11:22:04 -0400 From: "Walt" <k2wa...@gmail.com> To: <g...@ka1j.com> Cc: topband@contesting.com Subject: Re: Topband: What IS troubling about this report Message-ID: <7B26DEE897D94575ABF8729CF3F67423@K2WKHOME> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Gary, You took the words out of my mouth. I also listened on the calling QRG and found the same OTers calling, calling and calling w/o listening. One reason I like QSK so much is that I can stop calling as soon as I hear the station come back to someone, maybe even me. 73 de Walt - K2WK > -----Original Message----- > From: Topband [mailto:topband-boun...@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Smith > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 10:55 AM > To: Topband@contesting.com > Subject: Re: Topband: What IS troubling about this report > > What is sad to me is all of the bad things that have been mentioned > are seen affecting every DXpedetion or unusual DX working today. It's > not just the common experience of dealing with these LIDS, it is the > unrelenting, continuous experience of it. I'm sure there isn't one > example of stupidity in operation I can comment on that isn't > familiar to each of us. > > I was listening to a pileup from the E3 and some lid East NE from my > oceanside QTH kept calling; NA NA NA only NA NA NA ad nauseum. Then > came OBAMA OBAMA NA NA NA. It's obvious the guy is mentally disturbed > but that's tough to keep listening to when you're trying to hear a > faint DX signal through him. It sure would have been helpful if the > E3 would have shifted Tx freq a bit. Somebody sent something back to > the lid about his mother and amazingly the QRM stopped with that but > moments later so did the E3. The LID got his wish. > > As many have mentioned, the incessant calling when the the DX is not > calling to them is pervasive and also seemingly eternal, crosses > international sources and is by no means confined to new hams who > don't know the code. I was curious to listen to the people calling > the DX, as if I were the DX, and listened with the main & sub on the > K3, the DX in the left ear & the pileup in the right. > > It was incredible to hear so many older calls were completely > ignoring who the DX was trying to pull out; The DX calls AA2? and > W1..., KP4..., W5.. not to mention myriads of EU and SA are calling > in the pileup, calls that long predate any no-code licensing period. > These guys know exactly what they are doing and it is intentional QRM > of a different sort. I do feel rankled when people blame this on the > no-code licensees. I got my Extra back 35 years ago so I have no dog > in this no-code = bad CW operators in the pileups hunt. Seems to me > the vast majority of offenders are long term hams who have lost their > upbringing. > > One more thing I lament tremendously (non-pileup related), is the > lack of interest in name, real signal report & QTH with a QSO > now-a-days. I understand computer logging makes so much irrelevant > like name/QTH and that a signal report is sort of useless anyway as > someone with an indoor dipole in the basement won't give or get the > same report as a triband would give at the same QTH, but it is > tradition. For sure, only rarely with todays radios worldwide do I > hear bad signals. But... I feel badly when I make a non-DXpedetion Q > and I send 579 name is Gary QTH CT and get a TU CQ CQ CQ DE XYZ > in return. > > When I hear a bad signal on the air, I now-a-days send them an email > telling them date time freq & what their signal sounds like, I would > want to know if my signal was defective. Amazing how very few replies > I get back from those comments. Makes me wonder if they like that > situation as it makes their signal stand out over the clean ones. > > I heard JA1NUT CQing on 15M CW & remembered his QSL card from > ragchews long ago, gave him a call & had a45 minute ragchew with him, > the first CW ragchew I've had in years it seems. Our first QSO was in > 87, had a couple more till 97 and hadn't heard him till this this one > in 2014. During the QSO we both lamented the loss of CW ragchews and > the vogue contest-like/minimalist-style QSOs of today. I really > appreciated that QSO with him. > > One of the things I like about this and its brother-"contesting" > forums is what seems to be a common bond of interest in maintaining > dignity in Ham Radio, and achieving a station that hears well and > transmits well. I always look to see what new email comes into this > folder for I know that among us are the people that make Ham Radio > fun and something to share with newcomers to the hobby. > > These other people who don't listen or think when they transmit are > beyond my > comprehension. > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > > _________________ > Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Topband mailing list Topband@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/topband ------------------------------ End of Topband Digest, Vol 147, Issue 19 **************************************** _________________ Topband Reflector Archives - http://www.contesting.com/_topband