Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Larry via Topband]

hi milt,


nothing heard in tucson and listened for hours. i was using a beverage pointed 
directly to them.


just started messing around and heard them with a beverage pointed at 200 deg. 
never loud enough to call but they were there. try that direction, it may work 
better for you as it did for me. 


worked SS many years ago so not to concerned but need SG so kind of getting 
familiar with the propagation. band seemed pretty good as i worked quite a few 
SA stations.


good luck to the needy.


73, larry n7dd  



-Original Message-
From: Milt <miltn...@gmail.com>
To: topband <topband@contesting.com>; W7RH <midnigh...@cox.net>
Sent: Sun, Jan 24, 2016 6:16 am
Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

Bob,

I concur that this might be the reason that Top Band has been so difficult 
for propagation to our area.

I heard them the first night at Q4, right at our sunset.  They were working 
EU so I didn't call.  They promptly faded away, not to be heard again that 
night, or since.

I just finished nearly 6 hours under the earphones and I heard not a single 
dit the entire evening from VP8 STI.

And this evening there were some posts, including one by you, that said his 
signal was becoming discernable to the posters from out west.  Here; 
NADA

Anyway, it is fun, and the ol' lady sure has a bag of tricks.  I doubt we 
will ever know and understand all the vagaries of 160 Meter propagation.

73, and good night.  GL with your quest.

de Milt, N5IA


-Original Message- 
From: W7RH
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:42 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

Congrats to those out West that have VP8STI in the log. You guys
certainly had the good draw and the right angle. I did work them on 80m
using OMNI short vertical and 100W. They however were not even moving
the S meter.

I offer my theorem on why Western US contacts are infrequent in this
case. Using my station and beam heading to the SE I worked CE1/K7CA
using QRP. I could do that from early darkness until his sunrise.
considering I've worked all of south America with 100W the extra 1500
miles should not be difficult especially being a trans equatorial QSO.
The conditions would also have to be very disturbed with no direct polar
region influence.

Looking at the VP8STI website they provide topographic and satellite map
of their physical location which is located on Thule Island to provide
safe harbor. I note to NW is Mt Larsen about 2 miles away. It rises some
2500 ft and the terrain effectively disrupts everything below 15 degrees
or nearly half of their vertical beam-width. This antenna is not in salt
water and a good guess would be that it has about 30 1/4 wave plus
radials. They have a clean shot to Europe in the far field. The NW path
is broken by Thule Mountain and along the way is going to pass through
the Andes Mountains. I would suggest the ground reflection element in
this case is scattering, which also causes increased path loss. This is
much like attenuation cause by the Rocky Mountains to Europe from
western US. Of course this the height of the F layer is a factor as well.

Responding to an earlier post by K7TJR regarding K7ZV mountain location.
I will take a QTH with extensive wide open flat land or slightly sloping
down hill over a mountain top any day. The curvature of the earth and
far field reflection is important (slight far field gain). I am not
saying that a mountain top won't work for 160. Heck, it might be
possible to build an antenna that is flexible on take off angle.

73

Bob

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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Lee STRAHAN]

Rich uses the Hi-Z 4-8 Pro

Lee

From: Mike Waters [mailto:mikew...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:06 AM
To: Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com>
Cc: 160 <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

Exactly what antenna was he using? All we know is that it wasn't the Hi-Z 8A.
73, Mike
www.w0btu.com<http://www.w0btu.com>

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Lee STRAHAN 
<k7...@msn.com<mailto:k7...@msn.com>> wrote:
 he was using one of my own antennas invented ... I am doubly crushed that it 
was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me so soundly.

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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Dave Pascoe]

Data sets consisting of one observation are highly suspect. But when it's
all the data you have, ...   :-)

In other news, 225 miles can definitely make a difference on 160m.

Dave KM3T


On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Mike Waters <mikew...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks. Assuming for a minute that it wasn't the location, how might that
> antenna have been superior?
>
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Rich uses the Hi-Z 4-8 Pro
> >
> >
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:* Mike Waters [mailto:mikew...@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:06 AM
> > *To:* Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com>
> > *Cc:* 160 <topband@contesting.com>
> > *Subject:* Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma
> >
> >
> >
> > Exactly what antenna was he using? All we know is that it wasn't the Hi-Z
> > 8A.
> >
> > 73, Mike
> >
> > www.w0btu.com
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> >  he was using one of my own antennas invented ... I am doubly crushed
> that
> > it was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me so soundly.
> >
> >
> >
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Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Lee STRAHAN]

   Well, it was not as if I did not know it was going to happen someday, I had 
remained pretty cheeky until this time. I had often knew it was sure to come. I 
have remained pretty self-content that I had invented the ultimate DX antenna 
for the state of Oregon. The Hi-Z 8A. In the hours that I had spent trying to 
work DX on 160 I had remained convinced that I could hear everything that 
anyone else in Oregon could hear. After all I had taken 5 years out of my early 
retirement life inventing surely in my mind the monster of all receiving 
antennas for 160. But it was last night the 22nd of January 2016 when I was 
finally humbled by my friend in Grants Pass Oregon some 225 highway miles 
Southwest of me.  I knew it was coming someday. I had my earphones plugged into 
to my trusty Orion 1 transceiver when I saw a post from my friend that he was 
hearing the VP8 very well and of all the nerve he was using one of my own 
antennas invented right here in this little town of 1360 people wi
 th no stop lights. Of all the nerve. Well I said to myself the VP8 will clear 
up here any moment. I listened and tuned the Old Orion, which by the way I 
still think is better at 160 than the K3, sure enough I could hear a character 
or 2 of the VP8. I listened and listened and it never got but little better. I 
called a few times when I was convinced I might just squeak through but alas I 
thought he may have come back to me but horrors, maybe I remain in the group 
reported to have been called and not heard. And so it is here on the morning of 
the 23rd I remain crushed by my own ego and at my own hand. Congratulations 
Rich K7ZV, I covet your mountain top location now because you have answered the 
question I have pondered for a long time. Now I am truly convinced that the 
mountain top locations really must be better on the low frequencies like 160. I 
am doubly crushed that it was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me 
so soundly. And so it is with my mind turning at t
 op speed today, which one of my antennas or how many should I place at this 
1250 foot peak just 2 miles due South of my QTH with NO power lines and would 
it be worth the effort. Hmmm of course it would after all I have what I read a 
long time ago on Tree's web stuff. I am inflicted, yes you guessed it the 
dreaded 160 disease. Hmmm wonder if I could hear 630 meters up there. So it is 
now I thank my friend Rich which took the smile off my face last eve and left 
me with Hmmm why not, that peak sure is appealing and it belongs to the Federal 
grass lands.  Surely I could get a grazing permit for some signal hungry 
aluminum  and inconvenienced electrons corralled in some suitable enclosures. I 
need to call my friend whom is a digital guy and pick his brain about wifi 
remoting. I gotta go guys, got lots to do to prepare for next year. Granted my 
health, I am in.

Congratulations to all whom have made it. I will try until they leave. It was 
better last night, surely it will be better tonight.

Lee  K7TJR   Central Oregon


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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Mike Waters]

Exactly what antenna was he using? All we know is that it wasn't the Hi-Z
8A.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Lee STRAHAN  wrote:

>  he was using one of my own antennas invented ... I am doubly crushed that
> it was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me so soundly.
>
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Mike Waters]

Thanks. Assuming for a minute that it wasn't the location, how might that
antenna have been superior?

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com> wrote:

> Rich uses the Hi-Z 4-8 Pro
>
>
>
> Lee
>
>
>
> *From:* Mike Waters [mailto:mikew...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 23, 2016 11:06 AM
> *To:* Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com>
> *Cc:* 160 <topband@contesting.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma
>
>
>
> Exactly what antenna was he using? All we know is that it wasn't the Hi-Z
> 8A.
>
> 73, Mike
>
> www.w0btu.com
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>  he was using one of my own antennas invented ... I am doubly crushed that
> it was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me so soundly.
>
>
>
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Tom]

Thanks Lee,,, your dialogue made me feel much better!! I too listened while 
Rich worked him and thought for sure my location in Arizona DM34, would be next 
for them to pop out of the noise, but then hearing the KH6's work them,  and 
still just bits and pieces here, I knew last night was not my night,,,I am 
throwing together a BOG today to try and snag them tonight, ,,, one interesting 
note,,, I heard them twice at 559 for their complete sequence, about 15 min 
before their SR,,  when they were working some 4's,,, but lasted maybe 3 
seconds, then they were back in the noise,,, reminded me of Airplane scatter on 
the Uhf/microwave bands, or meteor scatter,, 160 is truly an interesting and 
challenging band and as Forrest Gump put it," its like a box of 
chocolates,, you never know what ya gonna get" !! 
Congrats to all that worked them  and see the rest of you tonight  for 
another round!! 
73's 
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Lee STRAHAN <k7...@msn.com>
Sender: "Topband" <topband-boun...@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:56:05 
To: '160'<topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Topband: VP8STI  Humor, Design engineer trauma

   Well, it was not as if I did not know it was going to happen someday, I had 
remained pretty cheeky until this time. I had often knew it was sure to come. I 
have remained pretty self-content that I had invented the ultimate DX antenna 
for the state of Oregon. The Hi-Z 8A. In the hours that I had spent trying to 
work DX on 160 I had remained convinced that I could hear everything that 
anyone else in Oregon could hear. After all I had taken 5 years out of my early 
retirement life inventing surely in my mind the monster of all receiving 
antennas for 160. But it was last night the 22nd of January 2016 when I was 
finally humbled by my friend in Grants Pass Oregon some 225 highway miles 
Southwest of me.  I knew it was coming someday. I had my earphones plugged into 
to my trusty Orion 1 transceiver when I saw a post from my friend that he was 
hearing the VP8 very well and of all the nerve he was using one of my own 
antennas invented right here in this little town of 1360 people wi
 th no stop lights. Of all the nerve. Well I said to myself the VP8 will clear 
up here any moment. I listened and tuned the Old Orion, which by the way I 
still think is better at 160 than the K3, sure enough I could hear a character 
or 2 of the VP8. I listened and listened and it never got but little better. I 
called a few times when I was convinced I might just squeak through but alas I 
thought he may have come back to me but horrors, maybe I remain in the group 
reported to have been called and not heard. And so it is here on the morning of 
the 23rd I remain crushed by my own ego and at my own hand. Congratulations 
Rich K7ZV, I covet your mountain top location now because you have answered the 
question I have pondered for a long time. Now I am truly convinced that the 
mountain top locations really must be better on the low frequencies like 160. I 
am doubly crushed that it was one of my second tier designs that had whipped me 
so soundly. And so it is with my mind turning at t
 op speed today, which one of my antennas or how many should I place at this 
1250 foot peak just 2 miles due South of my QTH with NO power lines and would 
it be worth the effort. Hmmm of course it would after all I have what I read a 
long time ago on Tree's web stuff. I am inflicted, yes you guessed it the 
dreaded 160 disease. Hmmm wonder if I could hear 630 meters up there. So it is 
now I thank my friend Rich which took the smile off my face last eve and left 
me with Hmmm why not, that peak sure is appealing and it belongs to the Federal 
grass lands.  Surely I could get a grazing permit for some signal hungry 
aluminum  and inconvenienced electrons corralled in some suitable enclosures. I 
need to call my friend whom is a digital guy and pick his brain about wifi 
remoting. I gotta go guys, got lots to do to prepare for next year. Granted my 
health, I am in.

Congratulations to all whom have made it. I will try until they leave. It was 
better last night, surely it will be better tonight.

Lee  K7TJR   Central Oregon


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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Brad Rehm]

Lee,

No one's mentioned the "Spotlight" phenomenon, which occasionally happens
on 160.  The signal comes shining down from the "upper layers" and
illuminates a very small area.  Stations lucky enough to be in the covered
spot get to work the DX.  Everyone else, well...

Can't remember where I read about this, but it would mean that your being
250 miles from the other station might place you well out of the covered
area.  You'd never hear the DX, regardless of how many antennas you had.

Brad  KV5V

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Mike Waters  wrote:

> Agreed. Thanks.
>
> 73, Mike
> www.w0btu.com
>
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Lee STRAHAN  wrote:
>
> > ... Bear in mind the fact that one can never have enough receiving
> > antennas at any given time. The ionosphere is a fickle beast at best.
> >
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,1/23/2016 2:07 PM, Brad Rehm wrote:

No one's mentioned the "Spotlight" phenomenon, which occasionally happens
on 160.


Huh? Did you miss mine this morning, or the half dozen replies?

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Mike Waters]

Agreed. Thanks.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Lee STRAHAN  wrote:

> ... Bear in mind the fact that one can never have enough receiving
> antennas at any given time. The ionosphere is a fickle beast at best.
>
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Yuri Blanarovich]

More in the category of ducting.
http://www.k3bu.us/propagation.htm

Yuri, K3BU.us
 
 
 On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 05:07 PM, Brad Rehm wrote:
 
 > Lee,


No one's mentioned the "Spotlight" phenomenon, which occasionally 
happens

on 160.  The signal comes shining down from the "upper layers" and
illuminates a very small area.  Stations lucky enough to be in the 
covered

spot get to work the DX.  Everyone else, well...

Can't remember where I read about this, but it would mean that your 
being
250 miles from the other station might place you well out of the 
covered
area.  You'd never hear the DX, regardless of how many antennas you 
had.


Brad  KV5V

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Mike Waters  wrote:


Agreed. Thanks.

73, Mike
www.w0btu.com

On Sat, Jan 23, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Lee STRAHAN  wrote:


... Bear in mind the fact that one can never have enough receiving
antennas at any given time. The ionosphere is a fickle beast at 
best.



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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Lee STRAHAN]

Hello again Mike, Thanks for the question,
I have had as many as 4 of the directional Hi-Z and a new undisclosed 
design experimental Low impedance element arrays running at one time for 
comparisons. Some over 1000 feet apart.
  From the plots of Eznec there is scant 1.4 dB RDF difference between the 4-8 
Pro and the superior all active 8A. Also what I have observed and have nothing 
but anecdotal evidence for is that the all active 8A seems to outplay to the 
ears what Eznec or 4NEC2 predicts using RDF alone. These NEC comparisons are at 
a 20 degree angle of incoming signal elevation. If you look at the 3D plot 
comparisons at http://www.hizantennas.com/receiving_antennacomparison_char.htm  
you will see that the side lobes put there purposely to get the RDF up in the 
8A are very very low in elevation.  I have always conjectured that this was the 
reason that the 8A would outplay the 4-8Pro Eznec comparisons  in my fields. 
Assuming that local noise and noise in general is higher  angles these low 
elevation side lobes would not pick up the high angle noise. This could be 
responsible for an observed increase over RDF performance. There are a lot of 
variables involved so it remains conjecture at this time.
  The slightly narrower forward beam of the 8A may also be responsible. When 
you start using antennas with this kind of pattern squeezing to make high RDF 
it is absolutely imperative to be at least 1000 or more feet away from power 
lines and TX antennas as it takes so little coupling to change the pattern and 
resultant RDF. This makes comparisons very difficult.
For instance, it is theoretically possible to take the same 8 element 200 
foot diameter circle and get over 15 dB of RDF with a 31 degree beamwidth, a 
horrible looking pattern, and 22 dB front to back. The absolute maximum 
directivity according to MT Ma and his book.  It takes enormous precision in 
everything involved with this design including likely impossible electronics, 
cabling, ground incontinuities and environmental differences. Not to mention 
the narrow beamwidth making the need for 16 elements in this footprint to cover 
the entire azimuth. I do not believe that you could make this antenna work 
without a mile or better separation from other objects of any kind.

Short answer, 8A is 1.4 dB RDF better by Eznec.

Bear in mind the fact that one can never have enough receiving antennas at any 
given time. The ionosphere is a fickle beast at best.

Lee  K7TJR  Central Oregon


Thanks. Assuming for a minute that it wasn't the location, how might that 
antenna have been superior?
73, Mike
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[W7RH]

Congrats to those out West that have VP8STI in the log. You guys 
certainly had the good draw and the right angle. I did work them on 80m 
using OMNI short vertical and 100W. They however were not even moving 
the S meter.


I offer my theorem on why Western US contacts are infrequent in this 
case. Using my station and beam heading to the SE I worked CE1/K7CA 
using QRP. I could do that from early darkness until his sunrise. 
considering I've worked all of south America with 100W the extra 1500 
miles should not be difficult especially being a trans equatorial QSO. 
The conditions would also have to be very disturbed with no direct polar 
region influence.


Looking at the VP8STI website they provide topographic and satellite map 
of their physical location which is located on Thule Island to provide 
safe harbor. I note to NW is Mt Larsen about 2 miles away. It rises some 
2500 ft and the terrain effectively disrupts everything below 15 degrees 
or nearly half of their vertical beam-width. This antenna is not in salt 
water and a good guess would be that it has about 30 1/4 wave plus 
radials. They have a clean shot to Europe in the far field. The NW path 
is broken by Thule Mountain and along the way is going to pass through 
the Andes Mountains. I would suggest the ground reflection element in 
this case is scattering, which also causes increased path loss. This is 
much like attenuation cause by the Rocky Mountains to Europe from 
western US. Of course this the height of the F layer is a factor as well.


Responding to an earlier post by K7TJR regarding K7ZV mountain location. 
I will take a QTH with extensive wide open flat land or slightly sloping 
down hill over a mountain top any day. The curvature of the earth and 
far field reflection is important (slight far field gain). I am not 
saying that a mountain top won't work for 160. Heck, it might be 
possible to build an antenna that is flexible on take off angle.


73

Bob

--
W7RH DM35OS

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not 
sure about the former.

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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,1/23/2016 10:15 PM, Milt wrote:
73, and good night.  GL with your quest. 


And to you, Milt.  Not a dit here either. I wrote down calls of several 
dozen stations who called, mostly for brief periods. I took that to mean 
that 1) they worked them or 2) they no longer heard them. :) I heard Bob 
calling and then give them a report, then call later and give them a 
report. I heard that with several stations.


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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Milt]

Bob,

I concur that this might be the reason that Top Band has been so difficult 
for propagation to our area.


I heard them the first night at Q4, right at our sunset.  They were working 
EU so I didn't call.  They promptly faded away, not to be heard again that 
night, or since.


I just finished nearly 6 hours under the earphones and I heard not a single 
dit the entire evening from VP8 STI.


And this evening there were some posts, including one by you, that said his 
signal was becoming discernable to the posters from out west.  Here; 
NADA


Anyway, it is fun, and the ol' lady sure has a bag of tricks.  I doubt we 
will ever know and understand all the vagaries of 160 Meter propagation.


73, and good night.  GL with your quest.

de Milt, N5IA


-Original Message- 
From: W7RH

Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2016 10:42 PM
To: topband
Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

Congrats to those out West that have VP8STI in the log. You guys
certainly had the good draw and the right angle. I did work them on 80m
using OMNI short vertical and 100W. They however were not even moving
the S meter.

I offer my theorem on why Western US contacts are infrequent in this
case. Using my station and beam heading to the SE I worked CE1/K7CA
using QRP. I could do that from early darkness until his sunrise.
considering I've worked all of south America with 100W the extra 1500
miles should not be difficult especially being a trans equatorial QSO.
The conditions would also have to be very disturbed with no direct polar
region influence.

Looking at the VP8STI website they provide topographic and satellite map
of their physical location which is located on Thule Island to provide
safe harbor. I note to NW is Mt Larsen about 2 miles away. It rises some
2500 ft and the terrain effectively disrupts everything below 15 degrees
or nearly half of their vertical beam-width. This antenna is not in salt
water and a good guess would be that it has about 30 1/4 wave plus
radials. They have a clean shot to Europe in the far field. The NW path
is broken by Thule Mountain and along the way is going to pass through
the Andes Mountains. I would suggest the ground reflection element in
this case is scattering, which also causes increased path loss. This is
much like attenuation cause by the Rocky Mountains to Europe from
western US. Of course this the height of the F layer is a factor as well.

Responding to an earlier post by K7TJR regarding K7ZV mountain location.
I will take a QTH with extensive wide open flat land or slightly sloping
down hill over a mountain top any day. The curvature of the earth and
far field reflection is important (slight far field gain). I am not
saying that a mountain top won't work for 160. Heck, it might be
possible to build an antenna that is flexible on take off angle.

73

Bob

--
W7RH DM35OS

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not 
sure about the former.


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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[bob hervatine]

Absolute zilch heard on TB tonight here at my QTH in central CA (DM06) until 
the last 30 minutes before VP8STI s/r, when I was blessed with a few random and 
brief periods (of perhaps 10 seconds or less) of 'something' bubbling just 
below my ability to copy. Last trace of anything was right at STI's s/r. 

This is slightly better than the previous evening, when I had two brief 'almost 
copy' rises.

VP8STI was near armchair copy on 80CW most of the evening when I'd go up there 
to check. Still had cpy on 80m 30 minutes after VP8STI s/r.

Rx antenna here is a K9AY loop, but I'm not convinced a BOG or above ground 
beverage would have helped that much the past two evenings.

(BTW, I am NOT the 'Bob' referred to by K9YC. I never tx-ed tonight.)

Congrats to all who DID make it tonight, and GL to those of us still hunting.

Bob N2NS
(central California DM06)

> To: topband@contesting.com
> From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
> Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2016 22:45:13 -0800
> Subject: Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma
> 
> On Sat,1/23/2016 10:15 PM, Milt wrote:
> > 73, and good night.  GL with your quest. 
> 
> And to you, Milt.  Not a dit here either. I wrote down calls of several 
> dozen stations who called, mostly for brief periods. I took that to mean 
> that 1) they worked them or 2) they no longer heard them. :) I heard Bob 
> calling and then give them a report, then call later and give them a 
> report. I heard that with several stations.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Topband: VP8STI Humor, Design engineer trauma

[Jim Brown]

On Sat,1/23/2016 11:02 PM, bob hervatine wrote:

(BTW, I am NOT the 'Bob' referred to by K9YC. I never tx-ed tonight.)


I was referring to W7RH, a good guy I met at Visalia some years ago with 
a nice remote station in the AZ desert that he can operate locally 
(usually for contests) or from his home in/near Las Vegas.


73, Jim K9YC


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