Topband: XR0ZRC
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Topband: XR0ZRC
My contact with XR0ZRC on 160m from the far north last night at 0448 has been confirmed on the latest Club Log update. Doug/VA5DX "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
Hi all, I started calling them around 0315z when they were peaking S9. That's very loud considering the beverage has no noise. Using all of my learned skills I just could not work them. I was using the second receiver, listening dual and trying to find a frequency that seemed clear. The operator was working European stations that I could not hear and then I heard him return to WA7NS who is loud here. He came back to him twice and WA7NS responded both times but no joy. He then came back to a PA2 station. Some minutes later he came back to WA7NS once again and completed the QSO. I followed suite, called on the WA7 freq and slowed down to 15 WPM. Immediate return. Normally I would send at the same speed the DX is using but in this case the slower speed worked better. Surprising to me is that "tail-ending" worked also. Hint to the wise. I do not believe that they are hearing very well, working one station (last night) about every two to three minutes. Good luck.LarryN7DD -Original Message- From: Wes To: topband Sent: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 22:31 Subject: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? I was copying them last night on 160 about Q4 through the static crashes, but judging by the size of the pileup on the panadaper screen and their widely known receiving problems I didn't bother to call with my peanut whistle. Of course conventional wisdom says that I should not hear them without a RX antenna. Their operators seem to be a mixed bag. On 40 meters about two weeks ago, they were actually changing frequency every so often. I would think, where did they go and then see on the scope they moved down a few dozen Hz. Unfortunately, they did this in the middle of what I thought was our QSO. Wes N7WS On 3/26/2019 12:37 PM, W7RH wrote: > IMHO. Not just one but several Dxpeditions recently have had what seems like > vacation style operating while promoted as full time full efforts. Some from > hotels and resorts and some from less comfortable environments but subject to > big city noise. With the decrease in solar activity you would think a little > more low band effort would be in order. I don't think FT8 is the answer for > them either. If they can't hear on CW their noise floor will be an issue in > FT8 mode too. I'm sure someone will argue that point but if you can't work at > least --18 then forget it. > > The XR0ZRC ops had a decent signal to the SW the last two evenings which was > really their first major show on CW. I was able to copy them for more than 2 > hours each night until giving up. > > My thought is if you are going to run a KW and carry one along, then it would > only make sense they carry some wire, coax and transformers in a bag as well. > Shoot, even a K9AY could be carried in 3ft travel bag. While we can't make up > for TS QRN man made noise is another and sometimes challenging issue. IMHO > > RX firstTX second > > 73 bob, W7RH > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
I was copying them last night on 160 about Q4 through the static crashes, but judging by the size of the pileup on the panadaper screen and their widely known receiving problems I didn't bother to call with my peanut whistle. Of course conventional wisdom says that I should not hear them without a RX antenna. Their operators seem to be a mixed bag. On 40 meters about two weeks ago, they were actually changing frequency every so often. I would think, where did they go and then see on the scope they moved down a few dozen Hz. Unfortunately, they did this in the middle of what I thought was our QSO. Wes N7WS On 3/26/2019 12:37 PM, W7RH wrote: IMHO. Not just one but several Dxpeditions recently have had what seems like vacation style operating while promoted as full time full efforts. Some from hotels and resorts and some from less comfortable environments but subject to big city noise. With the decrease in solar activity you would think a little more low band effort would be in order. I don't think FT8 is the answer for them either. If they can't hear on CW their noise floor will be an issue in FT8 mode too. I'm sure someone will argue that point but if you can't work at least --18 then forget it. The XR0ZRC ops had a decent signal to the SW the last two evenings which was really their first major show on CW. I was able to copy them for more than 2 hours each night until giving up. My thought is if you are going to run a KW and carry one along, then it would only make sense they carry some wire, coax and transformers in a bag as well. Shoot, even a K9AY could be carried in 3ft travel bag. While we can't make up for TS QRN man made noise is another and sometimes challenging issue. IMHO RX firstTX second 73 bob, W7RH _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
IMHO. Not just one but several Dxpeditions recently have had what seems like vacation style operating while promoted as full time full efforts. Some from hotels and resorts and some from less comfortable environments but subject to big city noise. With the decrease in solar activity you would think a little more low band effort would be in order. I don't think FT8 is the answer for them either. If they can't hear on CW their noise floor will be an issue in FT8 mode too. I'm sure someone will argue that point but if you can't work at least --18 then forget it. The XR0ZRC ops had a decent signal to the SW the last two evenings which was really their first major show on CW. I was able to copy them for more than 2 hours each night until giving up. My thought is if you are going to run a KW and carry one along, then it would only make sense they carry some wire, coax and transformers in a bag as well. Shoot, even a K9AY could be carried in 3ft travel bag. While we can't make up for TS QRN man made noise is another and sometimes challenging issue. IMHO RX firstTX second 73 bob, W7RH -- W7RH DM35os "It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity." - Albert Einstein _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
That is not the problem here in the Midwest Paul. Every band I have worked XR0ZRC, they have been loud even on TB. All of the other bands they seemed to have no problems hearing stations to work except TB. I do use a small 3 element Hi-Z array for receiving. Hearing them has been no problem at all. Two nights ago when all the storms were raging along the southern US was the only time I wasn't hearing them well because of the 20 over constant static crashes. I am sure it must be just as frustrating to them to not be able to hear all the stations calling as it is for all of us not to be heard there on TB. Such is life though and it seems to be something that is out of our control at this point. Maybe they will find a way to improve the SNR on their end before they leave. 73 Tim, K9CQ -Original Message- From: Paul Kiesel via Topband Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 12:14 PM To: Topband Reflector Subject: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? I worked 3G0Z in 2001. It was a six-meters only DXpedition. They had two stations operating then. One was located in a local's house located on the western shore of San Juan Bautista and the other was located on the eastern shore at an inn. The reason for having both locations was that the station at the local's place would be effectively blocked to North America while the station at the inn would be blocked to Europe and South America. Both locations are in close proximity to steep mountains. If the XR0ZRC station is located on the western shore, that probably would explain why signals are so weak in North America. I found that I could barely detect them. Once in a while I could catch pieces of their call, but that was it for me. Paul, K7CW On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 9:26:26 AM PDT, wrote: I spent 3 hours last night listen and trying to work XR0.. when they were decent copy IN AZ about 0400,, when there were Many NA, stations calling along with a lot of Eu,, but VERY few made it into their log..Then about 0500 or so,, they started asking for EU only..and the band was FULL of EU up at least 3 KHz...but again very few making it into the log,,,BUT ZR0 was good copy for me the whole EU run.. Then about O600 they stopped asking for EU, and then the NA stations that were still on the band started calling,, I heard them work WA7NS about 90 miles north of me,, and I called them right after a few times and worked them about 0620...they were a real 569 to me from 0500 till they stopped calling CQ not long after I worked them... they were definitely struggling to hear.. MANY "BIG" gun stations both NA and EU,, did not make it last nite,, It took perseverance last nite,, and a LOT of Luck for those of us that made it into their log.. That's My report from AZ... Tom N7GP ex WA8WZG On 2019-03-26 09:13, David Olean wrote: Herb, I have a dedicated beverage aimed at 180 degrees and it works great. Nice and quiet and about 900 ft long. I do not have anything for Bouvet at 140 degrees or so. I better get to work! Dave On 3/26/2019 2:32 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: David, You would need a Beverage for XR0WRC favoring the south to SSW from your location. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM David Olean wrote: I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a DXpedition. It is not. My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is
Topband: XR0ZRC TB report from AZ last night
To all.. I spent 3 hours last night listen and trying to work XR0.. when they were decent copy IN AZ about 0400,,.. when there were Many NA, stations calling along with a lot of Eu,, but VERY few made it into their log..Then about 0500 or so,, they started asking for EU only..and the band was FULL of EU up at least 3 KHz...but again very few making it into the log,,,BUT ZR0 was good copy for me the whole EU run.. Then about O600 they stopped asking for EU, and then the NA stations that were still on the band started calling,, I heard them work WA7NS about 90 miles north of me,, and I called them right after a few times and worked them about 0620...they were a real 569 to me from 0500 till they stopped calling CQ not long after I worked them... they were definitely struggling to hear.. MANY "BIG" gun stations both NA and EU,, did not make it last nite,, It took perseverance last nite,, and a LOT of Luck for those of us that made it into their log.. That's My report from AZ... Tom N7GP ex WA8WZG _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
I worked 3G0Z in 2001. It was a six-meters only DXpedition. They had two stations operating then. One was located in a local's house located on the western shore of San Juan Bautista and the other was located on the eastern shore at an inn. The reason for having both locations was that the station at the local's place would be effectively blocked to North America while the station at the inn would be blocked to Europe and South America. Both locations are in close proximity to steep mountains. If the XR0ZRC station is located on the western shore, that probably would explain why signals are so weak in North America. I found that I could barely detect them. Once in a while I could catch pieces of their call, but that was it for me. Paul, K7CW On Tuesday, March 26, 2019, 9:26:26 AM PDT, wrote: I spent 3 hours last night listen and trying to work XR0.. when they were decent copy IN AZ about 0400,, when there were Many NA, stations calling along with a lot of Eu,, but VERY few made it into their log..Then about 0500 or so,, they started asking for EU only..and the band was FULL of EU up at least 3 KHz...but again very few making it into the log,,,BUT ZR0 was good copy for me the whole EU run.. Then about O600 they stopped asking for EU, and then the NA stations that were still on the band started calling,, I heard them work WA7NS about 90 miles north of me,, and I called them right after a few times and worked them about 0620...they were a real 569 to me from 0500 till they stopped calling CQ not long after I worked them... they were definitely struggling to hear.. MANY "BIG" gun stations both NA and EU,, did not make it last nite,, It took perseverance last nite,, and a LOT of Luck for those of us that made it into their log.. That's My report from AZ... Tom N7GP ex WA8WZG On 2019-03-26 09:13, David Olean wrote: > Herb, > > I have a dedicated beverage aimed at 180 degrees and it works great. > Nice and quiet and about 900 ft long. I do not have anything for > Bouvet at 140 degrees or so. I better get to work! > > Dave > > On 3/26/2019 2:32 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: >> David, You would need a Beverage for XR0WRC favoring the south to SSW >> from >> your location. >> >> Herb, KV4FZ >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM David Olean >> wrote: >> >>> I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a >>> major >>> effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none >>> from >>> them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them >>> but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy >>> almost >>> impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was >>> hard >>> for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other >>> days, >>> I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear >>> nil >>> and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. >>> (?) >>> (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud >>> in >>> the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said >>> something >>> like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the >>> strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to >>> wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were >>> working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between >>> crashes. >>> I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my >>> sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. >>> >>> I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that >>> they >>> are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet >>> accessibility. I >>> understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear >>> them >>> QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just >>> wonder >>> what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a >>> complaint >>> about a DXpedition. It is not. >>> >>> My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and >>> Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators >>> attached >>> to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, >>> and hard, that I cannot get to them! >>> >>> >>> Dave K1WHS >>> >>> _ >>> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >>> Reflector >>> >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector >> > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
I spent 3 hours last night listen and trying to work XR0.. when they were decent copy IN AZ about 0400,, when there were Many NA, stations calling along with a lot of Eu,, but VERY few made it into their log..Then about 0500 or so,, they started asking for EU only..and the band was FULL of EU up at least 3 KHz...but again very few making it into the log,,,BUT ZR0 was good copy for me the whole EU run.. Then about O600 they stopped asking for EU, and then the NA stations that were still on the band started calling,, I heard them work WA7NS about 90 miles north of me,, and I called them right after a few times and worked them about 0620...they were a real 569 to me from 0500 till they stopped calling CQ not long after I worked them... they were definitely struggling to hear.. MANY "BIG" gun stations both NA and EU,, did not make it last nite,, It took perseverance last nite,, and a LOT of Luck for those of us that made it into their log.. That's My report from AZ... Tom N7GP ex WA8WZG On 2019-03-26 09:13, David Olean wrote: Herb, I have a dedicated beverage aimed at 180 degrees and it works great. Nice and quiet and about 900 ft long. I do not have anything for Bouvet at 140 degrees or so. I better get to work! Dave On 3/26/2019 2:32 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: David, You would need a Beverage for XR0WRC favoring the south to SSW from your location. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM David Olean wrote: I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a DXpedition. It is not. My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and hard, that I cannot get to them! Dave K1WHS _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
Point is, why not try 160 in early morning, prior to their sunrise... Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Tree wrote: > > They were on 80 and 160 at the same time last night. > > Tree > >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:17 AM WW3S wrote: >> I’m not sure why they won’t try 160 closer to their sunrise.every >> morning they are on 80, and lately have been begging, with good signals, and >> seem to hear ok on 80, but their rate is slow due to not many >> calling.why not try 160 then, rather than 80 ?!?!?! >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Mar 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, David Olean wrote: >> > >> > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major >> > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from >> > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but >> > their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost >> > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for >> > me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw >> > many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a >> > check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) >> > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in >> > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something >> > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the >> > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, >> > and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were working >> > between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my >> > receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I >> > worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. >> > >> > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they >> > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I >> > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them >> > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder >> > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint >> > about a DXpedition. It is not. >> > >> > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and >> > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to >> > them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and >> > hard, that I cannot get to them! >> > >> > >> > Dave K1WHS >> > >> > _ >> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector >> >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
They were on 80 and 160 at the same time last night. Tree On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 9:17 AM WW3S wrote: > I’m not sure why they won’t try 160 closer to their sunrise.every > morning they are on 80, and lately have been begging, with good signals, > and seem to hear ok on 80, but their rate is slow due to not many > calling.why not try 160 then, rather than 80 ?!?!?! > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, David Olean wrote: > > > > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them > on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their > signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. > I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy > much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots > from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the > Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, > a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a > couple hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to > describe their signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for > "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At > my shack I could not tell who they were working between the static > crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my receiving setup is > working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from > here in Maine. > > > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV > on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is > going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a > DXpedition. It is not. > > > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to > them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and > hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > > > > Dave K1WHS > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
I’m not sure why they won’t try 160 closer to their sunrise.every morning they are on 80, and lately have been begging, with good signals, and seem to hear ok on 80, but their rate is slow due to not many calling.why not try 160 then, rather than 80 ?!?!?! Sent from my iPad > On Mar 26, 2019, at 10:00 AM, David Olean wrote: > > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them > on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their > signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. I > think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy much > of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots from > hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the Reverse > Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, a few > stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple > hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to describe their > signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for "booming", but it > must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not > tell who they were working between the static crashes! I copied fragments > between crashes. I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later > near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they are > plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV > on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is > going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a > DXpedition. It is not. > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and Bouvet! > Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to them are > stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and hard, that I > cannot get to them! > > > Dave K1WHS > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
Yes, Herb, and I'm afraid that the Bouvet expedition is going to have similar QRN problems. Fingers crossed! 73, Ken - K4XL On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:55 AM Herbert Schoenbohm < herbert.schoenb...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ken, I will gladly attest to that as XR0ZR was work here from 160-6 all > modes including RTTY with pipeline condition. I even work them on 6 meters > 6 different times when we had time to chit chat and the mainland wasn't > heard yet. ig difference. > > Herb, KV4FZ > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kenneth Grimm wrote: > >> The big difference, as I recall, between XR0ZR and XR0ZRC is the timing. >> ZR was in November, a month that was better for all concerned with regard >> to QRN as their 160 total demonstrates. >> 73, >> Ken - K4XL >> >> On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM ok1tn wrote: >> >> > XR0ZRC the signal in Eu is strong but listening is reduced by strong >> > interference from the lights of the port. >> > ok1tn >> > -- >> > 73 Slavek Zeler >> > https://www.okdxf.eu/ >> > "Telegraph Key Collector". >> > >> > -- Původní e-mail -- >> > Od: Tim Shoppa >> > Komu: David Olean >> > Datum: 26. 3. 2019 15:21:48 >> > Předmět: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? >> > "David, some stats from Clublog below: >> > >> > In 2013, XR0ZR made a major 160M effort, in South American summer: >> > 160: 1050 Q's >> > 80: 2374 Q's >> > 40: 4579 Q's >> > >> > I think it's unreasonable to expect that every single DXpedition will be >> > fruitful on 160M. >> > >> > 2018: XR0ZRC stats from Clublog: >> > 160: 75 Q's >> > 80: 1983 Q's >> > 40: 3562 Q's >> > >> > Tim N3QE >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Olean >> wrote: >> > >> > > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a >> major >> > > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from >> > > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them >> > > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy >> almost >> > > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard >> > > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, >> > > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear >> nil >> > > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) >> > > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud >> in >> > > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said >> something >> > > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the >> > > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to >> > > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were >> > > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between >> crashes. >> > > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my >> > > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. >> > > >> > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that >> they >> > > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet >> accessibility. I >> > > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear >> them >> > > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just >> wonder >> > > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a >> complaint >> > > about a DXpedition. It is not. >> > > >> > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and >> > > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators >> attached >> > > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, >> > > and hard, that I cannot get to them! >> > > >> > > >> > > Dave K1WHS >> > > >> > > _ >> > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> > > Reflector >> > > >> > _ >> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> > Reflector >> > " >> > _ >> > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> > Reflector >> > >> >> >> -- >> Ken - K4XL >> BoatAnchor Manual Archive >> BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com >> _ >> Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband >> Reflector >> > -- Ken - K4XL BoatAnchor Manual Archive BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
Ken, I will gladly attest to that as XR0ZR was work here from 160-6 all modes including RTTY with pipeline condition. I even work them on 6 meters 6 different times when we had time to chit chat and the mainland wasn't heard yet. ig difference. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 12:37 PM Kenneth Grimm wrote: > The big difference, as I recall, between XR0ZR and XR0ZRC is the timing. > ZR was in November, a month that was better for all concerned with regard > to QRN as their 160 total demonstrates. > 73, > Ken - K4XL > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM ok1tn wrote: > > > XR0ZRC the signal in Eu is strong but listening is reduced by strong > > interference from the lights of the port. > > ok1tn > > -- > > 73 Slavek Zeler > > https://www.okdxf.eu/ > > "Telegraph Key Collector". > > > > -- Původní e-mail -- > > Od: Tim Shoppa > > Komu: David Olean > > Datum: 26. 3. 2019 15:21:48 > > Předmět: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? > > "David, some stats from Clublog below: > > > > In 2013, XR0ZR made a major 160M effort, in South American summer: > > 160: 1050 Q's > > 80: 2374 Q's > > 40: 4579 Q's > > > > I think it's unreasonable to expect that every single DXpedition will be > > fruitful on 160M. > > > > 2018: XR0ZRC stats from Clublog: > > 160: 75 Q's > > 80: 1983 Q's > > 40: 3562 Q's > > > > Tim N3QE > > > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Olean > wrote: > > > > > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > > > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > > > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > > > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy > almost > > > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > > > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > > > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > > > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > > > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > > > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said > something > > > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > > > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > > > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > > > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > > > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > > > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > > > > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that > they > > > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. > I > > > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > > > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > > > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > > > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > > > > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > > > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > > > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > > > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > > > > > > > Dave K1WHS > > > > > > _ > > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > > Reflector > > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > " > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > > > -- > Ken - K4XL > BoatAnchor Manual Archive > BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
The big difference, as I recall, between XR0ZR and XR0ZRC is the timing. ZR was in November, a month that was better for all concerned with regard to QRN as their 160 total demonstrates. 73, Ken - K4XL On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:27 AM ok1tn wrote: > XR0ZRC the signal in Eu is strong but listening is reduced by strong > interference from the lights of the port. > ok1tn > -- > 73 Slavek Zeler > https://www.okdxf.eu/ > "Telegraph Key Collector". > > -- Původní e-mail -- > Od: Tim Shoppa > Komu: David Olean > Datum: 26. 3. 2019 15:21:48 > Předmět: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? > "David, some stats from Clublog below: > > In 2013, XR0ZR made a major 160M effort, in South American summer: > 160: 1050 Q's > 80: 2374 Q's > 40: 4579 Q's > > I think it's unreasonable to expect that every single DXpedition will be > fruitful on 160M. > > 2018: XR0ZRC stats from Clublog: > 160: 75 Q's > 80: 1983 Q's > 40: 3562 Q's > > Tim N3QE > > On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Olean wrote: > > > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost > > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something > > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > > > > Dave K1WHS > > > > _ > > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > > Reflector > > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > " > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > -- Ken - K4XL BoatAnchor Manual Archive BAMA - http://bama.edebris.com _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
Herb, I have a dedicated beverage aimed at 180 degrees and it works great. Nice and quiet and about 900 ft long. I do not have anything for Bouvet at 140 degrees or so. I better get to work! Dave On 3/26/2019 2:32 PM, Herbert Schoenbohm wrote: David, You would need a Beverage for XR0WRC favoring the south to SSW from your location. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM David Olean wrote: I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a DXpedition. It is not. My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and hard, that I cannot get to them! Dave K1WHS _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
David, You would need a Beverage for XR0WRC favoring the south to SSW from your location. Herb, KV4FZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:00 AM David Olean wrote: > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > Dave K1WHS > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
XR0ZRC the signal in Eu is strong but listening is reduced by strong interference from the lights of the port. ok1tn -- 73 Slavek Zeler https://www.okdxf.eu/ "Telegraph Key Collector". -- Původní e-mail -- Od: Tim Shoppa Komu: David Olean Datum: 26. 3. 2019 15:21:48 Předmět: Re: Topband: XR0ZRC? "David, some stats from Clublog below: In 2013, XR0ZR made a major 160M effort, in South American summer: 160: 1050 Q's 80: 2374 Q's 40: 4579 Q's I think it's unreasonable to expect that every single DXpedition will be fruitful on 160M. 2018: XR0ZRC stats from Clublog: 160: 75 Q's 80: 1983 Q's 40: 3562 Q's Tim N3QE On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Olean wrote: > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > Dave K1WHS > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector " _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
David, some stats from Clublog below: In 2013, XR0ZR made a major 160M effort, in South American summer: 160: 1050 Q's 80: 2374 Q's 40: 4579 Q's I think it's unreasonable to expect that every single DXpedition will be fruitful on 160M. 2018: XR0ZRC stats from Clublog: 160: 75 Q's 80: 1983 Q's 40: 3562 Q's Tim N3QE On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:00 AM David Olean wrote: > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > Dave K1WHS > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Re: Topband: XR0ZRC?
I have heard XR0ZRC the past two evenings on 160. Agreed they are not hearing very well at all - as they had a rather large pileup of both USA and EU stations calling (and yes VA2WA) and very few were getting through. For awhile last night - the only stations I heard getting through were other South Americans. I would say from both evenings - that they are putting in a lot of effort for not so many QSOs - which is hard work on their part. Hopefully - they will have some better nights without as much QRN and put more stations in the log. Their signal on 80 was much better. For me - I worked a previous effort some 23 years ago, so I was more focused on 5V7EI - who appears to only been on FT8 on topband last night. Since I don't operate that mode - guess I won't work them. I have heard three countries in the past couple of weeks that I need - but none of them got in the log (7P, 5X and 5V). My wife helped me put down 9 more radials last night - so I am up to 20... and did manage a QSO with HA8FK - which is getting pretty late in the season to work Europe. 73 Tree N6TR Manning, OR On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 7:00 AM David Olean wrote: > I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major > effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from > them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them > but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost > impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard > for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, > I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil > and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) > (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in > the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something > like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the > strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to > wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were > working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. > I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my > sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. > > I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they > are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I > understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them > QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder > what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint > about a DXpedition. It is not. > > My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and > Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached > to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, > and hard, that I cannot get to them! > > > Dave K1WHS > > _ > Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband > Reflector > _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
Topband: XR0ZRC?
I am a bit puzzled by XR0ZRC. I thought they were going to have a major effort on 80 and 160, but so far I have heard from little to none from them on 160. (I am not on 80 M) Last night, 26th UTC, I did hear them but their signal was quite weak and the heavy QRN was making copy almost impossible. I think this was the first time I heard them. It was hard for me to copy much of anything between static crashes. On other days, I saw many spots from hams showing that they are on 160M but I hear nil and a check on the Reverse Beacon Network shows no spots for them. (?) (Pirates?) Last night, a few stations mentioned that XR0ZRC was loud in the SE. VA2WA, who is a couple hundred miles north of me, said something like "booming " to describe their signal last night. Not sure of the strength required for "booming", but it must be similar to "wall to wall, and treetop tall". At my shack I could not tell who they were working between the static crashes! I copied fragments between crashes. I know my receiving setup is working. Just a few hours later near my sunrise I worked VK6 and JA from here in Maine. I have read a few notes on DX sites (many days old) explaining that they are plagued by high noise levels and have poor internet accessibility. I understand that, but I am still concerned that I almost never hear them QRV on 160. Maybe it is just my turn to be in the barrel? I just wonder what is going on. I am curious. I hope no one takes this as a complaint about a DXpedition. It is not. My task for the day is to lay out another RX wire for 140 degrees and Bouvet! Unfortunately, all of my wooden stakes with insulators attached to them are stored in a shed and the ice around it is so thick, deep, and hard, that I cannot get to them! Dave K1WHS _ Searchable Archives: http://www.contesting.com/_topband - Topband Reflector
